Newest issue of hot rod magazine is featuring a 95 sunfire equipped with a 2.6L twin cam turbocharged engine that is dynoing 625HP and 500TQ. According to the article, it runs 11s in the 1/4 with traction issues and doesn't idle too bad. The guy who owns it gutted it and the whole car only weighs 2200 lbs.

Even with a slight weight increase, that powertrain in a fiero sounds interesting!

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1985 SE 3800 Series 1 SC 4T60-E
1987 Coupe 3800 Series II 4T60-E
1987 SE 3.4 TDC 5-speed
1984 Coupe SBC V8 non-OD to 4T60 OD swap, electric power steering install
1985 Coupe 3800 Series II Supercharged (under construction)

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Damn, you beat me to it =)

I'm not sure how I feel about Hot Rod covering import typish cars, but I suppose they, like everyone else, have to go where the money is..

Cheers,

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Andrew MacPherson
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96 CRAPalier - Beater

quote Originally posted by Mac: Damn, you beat me to it =) I'm not sure how I feel about Hot Rod covering import typish cars, but I suppose they, like everyone else, have to go where the money is..

last I knew a 95 sunfire is a GM USA CAR
a hotrod doesnot have to be a bent8 or even
a USA built car, just faster than stock!!!!

face it guys, we drive a import TYPE CAR!!!!
built in the USA but inspired by the euro's

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Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?

It's all lies. The guy who owns it has a bad reputation. He has no actual dyno sheets or time slips to back up his numbers, plus there's really no way to get 600hp out of a 2.4 or quad 4, they just can't support that level of power. The guy has somewhere around 300 horse, which isn't bad, but nowhere near what he claims.

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quote Originally posted by ray b: face it guys, we drive a import TYPE CAR!!!!

No, get it right, we drive a first generation saturn!

A J Foyt got 375hp out of a pre-producion quad 4 turboed on pump gas, twenty years ago, set +250mph bonnivill records with it for several hour plus runs for class records
so a NOX 1/4 miler would not be unreasonable at near 600 for a few seconds [10-12] a run with rebuilds more often then we would like on a street car's motor

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Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?

Sorry guys, but in the 80's turbo era of Formula One, BMW had a 1.5 or 2 liter inline 4 that made 1,000 hp. Car and Driver did a road test in their magazine.
Honda had a 1.5 liter V6 that made 1,000 hp @ 34psi of boost.
That's one reason F1 went to N/A engines. Honda had said their next turbo would produce 1000hp per liter (1.5 liters).
And yes these engines cost a very large wad of money.......Paul

Oldsmobile made the fastest internal combustion car(well it was the fastest in 1987) with a Quad 4. The car was the '87 Aerotech.

The fact that it was a 2.0l, twin-turbo and a mid-engine makes it even better. 750hp and 278mph top speed.

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Niiiiice!

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TRiAD Motorsports
"One Day..."

[This message has been edited by TRiAD (edited 04-09-2003).]

I just read this article last night, and was going to start doing some research on what the heck this guy used for a tranny behind 600+ HP. But if it's all a sham, and he's only making 300 HP, then it's not so impressive. Well, it's impressive for a Q4, but not for a tranny to hold it...

It's not that a Sunfire is an import, and I don't care how many cylinders it has, but it is driven by the wrong set of wheels to be in Hot Rod IMHO.

Hartz

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quote Originally posted by Paul Prince: That's one reason F1 went to N/A engines.

The other being that the high-horse motors were causing some pretty hairy pileups!

*looks at article*
Man, and after all that? It's still a sunfire

Hell, my SATURN weighs 2200lbs with 1/2 tank, and me in it. 300hp? Whoop-de-doo-shite.

HMM, I just ran it across a few of the 1/4 mile calculators. At 625hp he should be running about 9.2 seconds average (the times ranged between 8.8 and 9.5) But with 300hp as guesstimated by those above he could run 11.7 average (the times ranged between 11.5 and 11.9). Wonder if Hot Rod actually verifies what is sent in?

who knows... again, the main purpose of a magazine is to sell magazines and make money. one way they do that is by pushing a lot of aftermarket products in their articles. that is motivation behind which vehicles get featured, and which don't; logically speaking.

quote Originally posted by Mach10: Hell, my SATURN weighs 2200lbs with 1/2 tank, and me in it. 300hp? Whoop-de-doo-shite.

heres a '97 Saturn SL2 that is estimated close to 300 hp...well 250. no good times yet, can't get it to hook up. maybe we should turn the boost down a little...LOL

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quote Originally posted by Oreif: HMM, I just ran it across a few of the 1/4 mile calculators. At 625hp he should be running about 9.2 seconds average (the times ranged between 8.8 and 9.5) But with 300hp as guesstimated by those above he could run 11.7 average (the times ranged between 11.5 and 11.9). Wonder if Hot Rod actually verifies what is sent in?

it said he was having traction issues, and maybe hes just a shitty launcher

trust me guys, the car is not putting out anywhere near 600 horse.

The olds/aerotech "quad 4" wasn't even close to a production quad 4. It had a magniesium(sp) block with head bolts that went all the way through the engine and bolted to the mains. It might have shared the same bore as a stock q4, but aside from that and the fact that it was DOHC/16 valve there are no similarities.

The guy ran a speed shop that is now out of business, and he ripped off a bunch of people.