cutting tool. Running a shaper, putting a half raidus on some 1 1/2" mdf. The guy on the line right in front of me, is using a saw to cut a part of the corner off to minimize the amt I have to romove, so the life of the profile cutter is extended. He is pushing them along a conveyor into my machine's feed system. He cuts one of them upside down, which means ther are some hardend steel pins on the BOTTOM, instead of on the top. I see it as it enters the stock feeder, hit the emer stop, but-too late. The feeder has already grabbed it, pushed into the tooling in a heartbeat & WHAM!!! Bits of high dollar tool all over the place. Waiting to hear from corporate on this one. Termination, probation, pay for the tool-who knows. May be time to get out the resume's.

eek

For crying out loud! It sounds like it's HIS mistake, not yours. It also sounds as if you reacted as fast as humanly possible.

I don't know. If I were running an assembly line or something of the sort, I'd think I'd budget for broken tools or something. Granted, $3000 is a lot of money, but if they're going to be that anal-retentive about the life of tools, perhaps they should be using something else?

Mind you, I am speaking from total ignorance on this...

Anyway, I really hope that they don't come down on you for this.

Best of luck,

Ed

You could always be a Correctional Officer in Indiana.

That reminds me of a warehouse I worked in where the management quit buying brooms because they were always getting broken. But would get upset when the floors were still dirty. Good thing management thinks so much...

wow thats crazy stuff... my dad is a tool and die maker so he kinda deals with similar stuff... He has only broken one tool and it wasn't a huge thing they just got another one. hope it all works out for you!

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whoopsie that sux

Chump change. Don't sweat it.

Seriously, hope you don't get in a situation where you have to put blame on the other guy. Sticky.

How's about dropping a rotary table from a knee mill. It almost was destroyed, we were able to fix it but it still cost some $$$ in replacement parts.

Don't worry about it. It always sounds like you show up to work, you do your job, and you are reliable. Plus you already have the skills to do the job. Do you know how much it costs an employer to find someone qualified, train them, and then hope the employee is honest and reliable and works in the company(lest they have to find a replacement for the replacement). It costs a fortune to replace people. I doubt they will even notice or much care about you breaking a tool. $3K isn't much. I have a buddy, he works for a large company here in town too, and he made a $23K mistake earlier this year. He was put on leave for a day while management decided what to do, and then he was back to work with no problems at all.

I guess I will come sweep up for ya!!

Oh hell, once I backed a truck INTO the windshield place where I worked. Came within a foot or so of 30 or so brand new windshields. Wrecked the truck good - and the building. Thought I was in trouble until I found out that because I was 14 at the time and had no learners license, they could do nothing to me. I didn't go back the next day though.

I agree with everything fiero56, don't worry about it too much. It could've been worse, right? We all make mistakes (although in this case it sounds more like the other guy's fault). Hope everything works out!

Btw fierobaby, does your dad hold down 2 jobs? I seem to recall u mentioning in general that your dad's a mechanic. Just curious.

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heh, I would like to add this though, as it just came to mind. Last year it was discovered that one of the departments had made an error. Turns out the development team used an incorrect billing number in the software. It took 18 months before this error was discovered, and by that time the company had lost more than $17 million dollars in lost revenue. I will say, there was some major "house-cleaning" in a few departments soon after.
But, its safe to say if it took 18 months to realize you are $17M short, its not going to bankrupt the company.

Well, I heard thru the grapevine(?) that I'm to receive a 'verbal' next week, which means I will have to explain exactly what happened, then take an ass-chewing. I've always said, 'the operator is ultimatly responsible', & I was the operator & lead man on this, so I've already told them I accept full responsibilty for the wreck. They said 'no, you can't watch the machine & the other 2 guys at the same time', so I guess it's going to go that way. The saw operator will get put on probation, which means one more screw up & he's out the door, but I know for a fact that he is already on probation for running about 100 big parts wrong & didn't catch the error. We're supposed to check every fifth part in case the computer has had a brain fart, or a tool has chipped or become dull. As* chewings don't bother me much-I had the Commandant of the Marine Corps chew me out for 20 minutes, about 6 inches from my face 25 years ago and everything else pales in comparison. He had it down to a fine art. But more than anything else, I hate that I allowed it to happen, not for the cost, but for my pride & ethics. My first screw-up in many years.

quote Originally posted by maryjane: I had the Commandant of the Marine Corps chew me out for 20 minutes, about 6 inches from my face 25 years ago and everything else pales in comparison

Wow. What did you do to earn THAT little bit of sunshine?

"Two of your snot nose jockeys do flyby on MY tower at over 400 knots!! I want some BUTTS!!"

Ok, so it's only a "Navy" a$$chewing. It's the only one I could remember at short notice. Jack's "You can't handle the truth" didn't have the same impact."

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So sorry this happened MaryJane (you're not a girl are you?).

Seems to me that the machine wouldn't have an emergency stop if this had not happened before or if it was a possibility. Business' count on mistakes as we're only human. Sounds like you're taking the right stance - be honest, accept responsibility for your actions, don't blame it all on your co-worker; preserve your dignity/integrity and you'll be fine. Your concern shows your degree of professionalism. Best wishes to you!

Food for thought - I'm allowed 3 med errors (as a Nurse) per year before my raise is effected; and it happens (scary though)!

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MJ has a split personality... Sometimes he thinks he's Don... Other times, she thinks she's Jane...

Both are a source of much amusement to a select few canadians...

No I'm not a girl, tho I did register originally for my wife, Mary Jane, but she rarely posts anymore(she's ill again). The emer stop is for safety, in case someone gets caught in the feed mechanism, they can hopefully shut it down before they get to the tooling(fat chance).
Formula88-I was just back from SE Asia in the early 70's. Been stateside for about 5 months & had been drunk for the bigger part of it. Thanksgiving at NAS Millington, CMC decides he is going to fly in & do a curosory inspection of an honor guard on the flight line. My Thanksgiving plans are abruptly cancelled. Get drunk the night before, get up, find out it's snowing to beat the band, colder than a witches tit, put on my winter service uniform-doesn't fit very well anymore. In formation, CMC comes to me. I do the present arms, for a rifle inspection. 3rd button pops right off my uniform & lands right on his shoe. Evidently, I missed about half of my face when shaving, he didn't like my hair cut, my aircrew wings aren't shiny enough, says I couldn't have earned as many air medals as I was showing(not true-earned every one)--you get the picture. MY CO was not a happy camper either. What could they do-cut my hair & send me to Nam? Done did that, but I WAS DULY impressed at the long string of curse words coming out of the CMC's throat. War's hell, but peace really sucked. I hate training commands, but I hove to & squared away pretty quickly after that.

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quote Originally posted by mermaidinthezodiac: So sorry this happened MaryJane (you're not a girl are you?).

Good thing he checked. Last time, he had to make sure so he took off his pants and underwear and looked down.

Sure enough, it was confirmed he was a male. He was wearing "blue shoes"!

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Glad to hear that the "powers that be" recognize that this is not a reflection on you or your professionalism. Sounds like the 'verbal' is basically a show for the other employees. Keep your chin up. You gotta know that those guys realize that they aren't going to find anyone of your caliber short of a lucky miracle. The very fact that you're concerned about this shows that you're a more concientious guy than most out there. Unless your bosses are idiots, it shouldn't be a problem. You go Don.

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4500 already?