I am about to pick up an 88 and it needs a new front bumper so I have been looking at the different noses out there. Mostly the 355 noses as well as Amida's 512.

Here are the companies I have found that sell the 355 nose:
Fiero warehouse http://www.ovis.net/~dmkfiero/
Fiero Fiberglass http://fierofiberglass.com/...es/FrontBumpers.html
Pisa http://pisafierohq.com/body_panels/front_ends/

Of course Amida doesnt have a site but he has a nice one as well.

I am not a fan of any of the other ones Pisa or the other companies offer and would either like something along the 355 look or Amida's 512. If there are other ones that any of you know of that are along those lines please let me know.

I would like to do a comparison of the different noses, from front pics, to side, to an angled front ( I guess oblique) shot. I have seen a bunch of them and have gone through a ton of various pages on the forum but I am not always 100% who's bumper is who's.

I also came across some that are not available any more and with some of them having just minor differences (to major ones of course). I would like to compile a comparison to know which one is from which vendor and how they ultimately look on a car for comparison of "style" so-to-speak.

Right now I am leaning towards the 512 from Amida but the price has me checking out others for right now. I understand there are also different quality out there and I have read up on the ones listed above as to how those fair.

So if you have one or you know for sure about a car that has a particular nose please post away. Of course if there are other front bumpers I havent mentioned in this list let me know.

Thanks!

This decision seems SOOOooo familiar I had done the same thing, went through tons of pictures and sites.

A few things of note:

- The Amida bumper slopes much more quickly than some of the other options, and to me does not match the natural slope of the Fiero hood, and just looks kinda like it just 'drops off".

- The Fiero Fiberglass bumper matches to the slope of the Fiero hood much better, but it makes the nose just a little bit longer.

- The Pisa bumper does not have the option of having the Fiero Belt molding that I know of. This may have changed, but when I bought my bumper, it was not an option.

After weighing everything, I went with the Fiero Fiberglass bumper #2, with the notch for the Fiero side molding. After looking at everything, I just liked the lines and slope better matching that of the Fiero, in my opinion.

Nothing to do with noses but Pisa still owes me a refund on a set of wing stands from about 9 years ago. I got them and returned them immediatly because they were junk. Several phone calls later and still no refund. Pisa sucks.

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What ever happened to the Molds that Twin Lakes had? I know i had a 3rd gen master for that mold on my 87 down in FL a number of years back.

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Care to post any pics?

quote What ever happened to the Molds that Twin Lakes had?

This is the mold that Doug at Fierowarehouse bought from Twin Lakes, and the mold that I (Sage Glassworks) use to make the 355 nose that Fierowarehouse offers. I would also guess that one of this same nose was used by Fiero Fiberglass as a plug to make the mold that they use to make theirs. They did go the extra step and create a new nose from that one and mold that sports the factory side molding, which is something I contemplated but decided against after seeing Amida's 355 nose, which if I were going to buy one, would be the one I'd buy. It's more expensive, but if you want the look, worth the extra coin. JMHO

HAGO!

quote Originally posted by Sage: [QUOTE]What ever happened to the Molds that Twin Lakes had?

This is the mold that Doug at Fierowarehouse bought from Twin Lakes, and the mold that I (Sage Glassworks) use to make the 355 nose that Fierowarehouse offers. I would also guess that one of this same nose was used by Fiero Fiberglass as a plug to make the mold that they use to make theirs. They did go the extra step and create a new nose from that one and mold that sports the factory side molding, which is something I contemplated but decided against after seeing Amida's 355 nose, which if I were going to buy one, would be the one I'd buy. It's more expensive, but if you want the look, worth the extra coin. JMHO

HAGO! [/QUOTE]

That mold was made by Denny Patton in Florida. The Drivers side did not match well cause he pulled his original Mold off a Wrecked F355, My nose was the 3 rd gen of him trying to make it even. I believe Twin lakes finally got the mouth even. We were trying to sell them but he ended up moving and the fading from the fiero scene. He did design the ZR2 kit that PISA markets/marketed which i really like.

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That was my understanding as well, according to what Doug was told at TLF. It still pulls a good part, it just doesn't "do it" for me personally. I don't particularly care for the 355 nose on the Fiero by itself, but I do think that Rob's design, looks more like it belongs there, mainly due to the shortened top section. Again, JMHO

When we picked up the molds and all the IRM stuff from Jim Sutter in Maryland, he also said that Denny had worked for him at some point, for about a year as I recall, but then either went to TLF, or back to Florida. He sure got around in his day! Last I heard he was back in Florida, but that's all I know about that!

HAGO!

I have seen them all, and imo (no offense to the other vendors) the Amida nose is head and shoulders above the field.

The rest just look kinda goofy to me.

Just my opinion though.

anyone care to post pics of the cars? side view, front and at an angle?

quote Originally posted by KOS: anyone care to post pics of the cars? side view, front and at an angle?

Here you go:









Sadly, the vendor for my nose is no longer in business. The original design was by a guy in Germany. It looks good but has flaws, one side is longer than the other and the "mouth" is not even...

quote Originally posted by KOS: John Care to post any pics?

I didn't post a picture originally, as the bumper is not yet attached to the car. It is a poor representation of how I am sure it will look when completed.

Here is is though, and again, keep in mind it is not attached, but just literally sitting there. The hood is adjusted way back from it, as to not scratch anything till the bumper is permanently attached.



I like the slower slope of this bumper compared to a couple of the others. Also of note, this is a one piece bumper, where the Amida one is molded in 2 separate pieces. At least that's the way they were done when I was researching a couple of years ago.

Here are some shots of my F355 nose.

Just like you, i agonized over which front end to buy, and which company to choose. I sympathize and hope some photos help!
I bought this nose years ago from a company overseas that is also no longer in business. Sorry for not much help there.
One thing i do like about my installation is that i had the bodyman mold in the front end to be a one piece unit with the fenders and over 5 years later there have been no issues with cracking or flex to date, it has worked perfectly. One thing i don't like is my choice of fog lights as they install in front of the hole rather than filling in from behind as i would prefer. This so far has been a struggle for me to find information on, as everyone tells you about the Sebring corner lamps but not the fogs?
Does anyone happen to know what is a good model choice of fog light for this setup as i obviously failed in my first guess?!

Thanks and good luck to you in your project!
Lee

quote Originally posted by CandyAppleRedT-TopGT: guess i failed at adding photos also? Sorry, i tried, i will research into and see what i am doing wrong....

Here you go .

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Hey thanks Khw!
Not sure how you did it, but that worked!

quote Originally posted by CandyAppleRedT-TopGT: Hey thanks Khw! Not sure how you did it, but that worked!

If you click the little "edit" button on the top right hand side of my post, it will bring up my post so you can see it in text format.

This looks very much like the Amida bumper, in the way that it slopes. It is a matter of taste, and everyone differs, but to me it is just to 'sharp' and looks like it drops off instead of following the hood angle.

Here are some photo's that I used when I was making a decision on what bumper to get. I scribbled in some lines to show the sharp angle that I keep talking about for comparison. The Ferrari at the bottom is fore reference. I did not want to do a Ferrari replica, just update the look of the Fiero was all. I did notice though that the real Ferrari's bumper did not dip off sharply, and matched the angle of the hood.

quote Originally posted by CandyAppleRedT-TopGT: One thing i don't like is my choice of fog lights as they install in front of the hole rather than filling in from behind as i would prefer. This so far has been a struggle for me to find information on, as everyone tells you about the Sebring corner lamps but not the fogs? Does anyone happen to know what is a good model choice of fog light for this setup as i obviously failed in my first guess?!

Again, this is like rehashing my own struggles all over again! I, as you mentioned, I also used the Sebring markers. I went with the orange instead of clear, as it seems to add a nice "pop" in the blue bumper.

As for the fog lights, I had heard somewhere that the holes in the bumper are 4 inches. I can not find where I saw this now, but I do remember it. In fact, the holes are 3 inches! I recently purchased a set of fog lights on eBay listed as "3" UNIVERSAL BLUE HALO PROJECTOR FOG LIGHTS SPOT DECK LAMP KIT FORD F150 RANGER"



I purchased these, as the H3 bulbs and style match the quad headlight setup I went with. They are nice and bright, but the LED halo is kind of a joke. It is a single LED, that just is inserted in the ring around the edge and reflects around the housing. Should be visible at night, but certainly not in the daytime.

I have yet to install them, as I have to take the car back to the paint shop this week to have the front bumper touched up.

@CandyAppleRedT-TopGT: What mesh did you go with in your bumper? I like the larger holes. Where did you get it, how much was it ect?

BTW, that is a gorgeous paint job and color! I also love the way you had the fenders molded into the bumper... NICE!

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JohnWPB, if you are going to compare Rob's work against the other 355 noses on the market then please post actual pictures of his 355 nose.

The burgandy one above doesn't even come close to Rob's 355 nose shape, size or quality.

Here are some examples of his actual nose.







This information was meant to help educate others who may be watching this post.

There are more installed examples from various vendors out there and hopefully we will see their owner's post pictures as well.

As stated above, Rob's front fascia is distinctive from others because it is two pieces, like the actual 355. Also, since you like his 512 fascia, Rob used the top portion of the 355 as a starting point for the 512, so they both will have the same slope.

Bob

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quote Originally posted by CandyAppleRedT-TopGT: I bought this nose years ago from a company overseas that is also no longer in business. Sorry for not much help there.

That looks like a Vanderhoef nose from the Netherlands - is it?

Here is a side view of my Amida 512 nose.
It does take a slight dive down but if it were to follow the hood line it would end up about 5" further out which would make the Fiero front end look longer than it already is.

Looks kinda mean from the side Mike!

Thanks Dan, I think it looks pretty mean from the front too.

This one looks best IMHO. I looked at the F355 bumper before when I had a GT that I modified. Had the 360 rear bumper and custom tail lights.

Yeah I agree it does! I really look forward to seeing tonight!

By the looks of it, these are the only suppliers of the different bumpers currently?

quote Originally posted by TXGOOD: Thanks Dan, I think it looks pretty mean from the front too.

Please, if your going to say something is a specific style, make sure you get it correct. The person who owns the car with the "Amida" nose stated their nose was from over sea's somewhere, so unless Amida went over sea's to make one and ship it back here, it is not a Amida made part. That one looks just like the one PK86 put on his burgandy car, which I beleive was a Fiero Warehouse made part. Maybe it's just with darker colors that slope becomes much more pronounced and noticeable? But that is most assuredly not a Amida nose. I mean look how short the slope is on a Amida nose compared to what you have in the picture.

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Here is one made from the Denny Patton mold from TLF, by me. It looks pretty good IMHO, still a little long, but that's an opinion. The difference, if any, is in the way it's mounted. This customer was close enough that I met him on the road to personally deliver the nose and was able to explain in detail how to go about mounting the nose so you could actually "adjust" the angle at which it comes off the front end. Not that hard, but it makes a huge difference in overall appearance. Anyway, here's a couple pics:








The other thing that he did that helped, was to mold the nose to the fenders, basically makeing a one piece front end.

Again, I personally wouldn't put just a different nose on my car, but that's a matter of taste. If I were to change just the nose, and I wanted the 355 look, I'd still probably use Rob's, or alter one that I made from the mold we have. ALL JMHO!

HAGO!

quote Originally posted by Khw: Maybe it's just with darker colors that slope becomes much more pronounced and noticeable? But that is most assuredly not a Amida nose. I mean look how short the slope is on a Amida nose compared to what you have in the picture.

Yes, It's funny, how the slope of the bumper looks soooo much less in that photo. No, it's not the darker color, its the simple fact that the photo was taken from the from the FRONT

Here is an official Amida bumper from the side. It still has the steeper slope.



This is not a discussion about who's is better, it is information and a comparison of different options, as requested by the OP. Yes, I like the Fiero Fiberglass one personally, as I mentioned earlier, and that is me PERSONALLY. It is something that I personally, in my opinion liked the look of better.

As for not using a photo of the real Amida bumper... There is no website that sells the bumper or has pictures of one. Googling images, there is no way of knowing who makes them for the most part. That is why in the above image I put Amina STYLE, as it appears to have the same slope to it.

There are a lot of different options, and the more we talk about each one, and post picture of them, the more information the OP and others have to go on to make their decision.

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Thanks John

Yes this is more for comparison. Just to help me make a better decision. There is look, quality and cost that all weighs in this for me. Right quality, right look and at the right price.

quote Originally posted by KOS: Right quality, right look and at the right price.

As with many things, you may only be able to get two out of three things...

That may be true for this market with only a few suppliers. Not sure it is like most things. With enough demand will be enough competition and more variety. But from this post there only looks to be 4 suppliers of bumpers.

If I am not mistaken, I THINK all the bumpers are really close in price, right around the $400 ~$450 range.

quote Originally posted by JohnWPB: As for not using a photo of the real Amida bumper... There is no website that sells the bumper or has pictures of one. Googling images, there is no way of knowing who makes them for the most part. That is why in the above image I put Amina STYLE, as it appears to have the same slope to it. There are a lot of different options, and the more we talk about each one, and post picture of them, the more information the OP and others have to go on to make their decision.

The problem with that is if you put "Amida style" you need to accurately represent it. The photo you used was from the poster who posted this about the nose.

quote Originally posted by CandyAppleRedT-TopGT: Here are some shots of my F355 nose. Just like you, i agonized over which front end to buy, and which company to choose. I sympathize and hope some photos help! I bought this nose years ago from a company overseas that is also no longer in business.

In all actuality they could all be described as "Amida style" as they are all fashioned after the same Ferrari so therefore all share distinct style similarities. The fact still remains, that it is not a Amida nose as the company the person got it from doesn't even make them any more. I've seen other threads where they show comparisons of the Amida verses the Fiero Fiberglass and Fiero Warehouse model and the Amida is the shortest of the 3. So while it does have a steeper slope, it is by no means as long as the one you captioned as "Amida style".

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quote Originally posted by Khw: Here you go .

It took me 10 minutes to convince myself that this was not my car.

I think they are $400-$600 and $500 to almost $800 with shipping.

quote Originally posted by JohnWPB: If I am not mistaken, I THINK all the bumpers are really close in price, right around the $400 ~$450 range.

quote Originally posted by ls3mach: It took me 10 minutes to convince myself that this was not my car.

Taken earlier today.