So as alot of the SOCAL area Fiero guys know I was unable to attend the get together because i was selling my Fiero to purchase another one from my home town area.
Turns out the Fiero i was going to purchase has some serious clutch issues that the guy eventually confessed to, due to i was going to drive it from Chicago to San diego.
This upsets be because 1) I had to look like an ass to the guy i had a tentative plan to sell my fiero to,because i backed out 2) I already had a good amount of money given to the guy as a "hold the car till i get there payment". which now he wont be able to return to me till the middle of next month. I have the title as collateral 3) i already had tickets purchased that now i might be screwed out of (will call on monday).

Why do people enjoy screwing others over. Im glad the guys conscience eventually caused him to do the right thing. But their still alot that is FUBAR'ed prior to this.

Grrrrr. thanks for letting me vent

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quote Originally posted by D3M6B: Turns out the Fiero i was going to purchase has some serious clutch issues that the guy eventually confessed to, due to i was going to drive it from Chicago to San diego. ... Why do people enjoy screwing others over?

Greed I guess. Some people in their eagerness to sell at the highest price 'forget' to mention important stuff.

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Spend enough time shopping for or buying used cars and you'll learn just how devious that charming fellow with the lovely looking car can be. The words Used CAR Car Salesman have a sinister ring for a reason. As stated, at least he owned up the clutch problems.

I know that you will need a new battery too simply because your buying a used car.

i hate to make you worry, but depending on your agency that maintains titles and registrations, the title alone isn't worth much if it isn't signed and then put in your name. in jersey...yea i know, i hate it here too, all you need to do is go to motorvehicle and get a replacement title. i got burned big time with a fiero deal and i hate to see this happen to good people. i don't know how you paid him, but i would do anything to get it back. it's been almost 4 years since i paid a guy 850.00 and since then, i had to file police reports and then finally had him locked up two years ago. he got sentenced a couple months ago which included restitution but he has up to two years more to pay it back.
good luck and don't let him bs you about giving you your money back.
al

There's probably a laundry list of other problems his conscience didn't let him own up to! Ultimately sound like you may have gotten lucky!

This goes back to not buying a car till someone looks at it.

Generally if you do not know someone in the area car appreaiser will look at a car for a fee. Oten it is money well spent.

My buddy got ripped on a GTO that was not what it was represented to be. It had rust and electical issues. He also over paid for the car.

It is a buyer beware and all you can do is to try to do things to limit the risks. Even then you are always takng a chance. I always have bought a used car expectng issues as many cars are sold because they need somthing.

Sorry to see you in a fix. I hope it works out.

Thanks everyone. Yes i know about the lost title thing and that is on my mind. Hopefully witch the guy confessing it shows hes a moral guy and getting the money back wont be an issue. If it turna out to be one i have paper work shower the money given and what it was for. I can always take him to court because i never recieved what i paid for orbhad my money returned.

Since the guy had second thoughts about ripping you off and fessed up the car was not all he claimed, you may be in luck and get your money back. Count yourself lucky. Of course, he may come up with a new excuse everytime "payment is due" as to why he doesn't have the money.

In many cases, when you give the guy your deposit with assurances you are going to purchase, then YOU back out - he has a right to keep the deposit since you were the one who pulled out of the deal. That's payment for the hassle and possible lost sale to someone else (since he's telling everyone who phones now "it's sold"). Hopefully, he doesn't do that.

The other thing to be aware of is the "Sold As Is" clause. You really can't buy a used car without it being there (you'd only expect a warranty on a new car anyway), but those 'magic words' let the Seller off the hook no matter what's wrong with the car. If it explodes on the way down the driveway, it's now your problem.

It's that "Sold As Is" clause that allowed the stereotypical dishonest Used Car Salesman persona to develop.
Even if he fed you bald-faced lies, he can just point at that and say "too bad buddy - Sold As Is".

[This message has been edited by fierosound (edited 07-29-2012).]

The 1st time I bought a Fiero, I had no clue of anything about these type of cars. In fact I wasn't even looking to buy one but the first thing I did check was the clutch. I set the hand brake as tight as it would go and put it in 1st gear and made sure I could stall down the engine by reving and engaging the clutch.

Not exactly a neutral drop at 4k but the seller knew that I knew what to look for. Turned out to be a good deal with 53k on the clock.

Hope things work out for you.

Spoon

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quote Originally posted by fierosound: Since the guy had second thoughts about ripping you off and fessed up the car was not all he claimed, you may be in luck and get your money back. Count yourself lucky. Of course, he may come up with a new excuse everytime "payment is due" as to why he doesn't have the money. In many cases, when you give the guy your deposit with assurances you are going to purchase, then YOU back out - he has a right to keep the deposit since you were the one who pulled out of the deal. That's payment for the hassle and possible lost sale to someone else (since he's telling everyone who phones now "it's sold"). Hopefully, he doesn't do that. The other thing to be aware of is the "Sold As Is" clause. You really can't buy a used car without it being there (you'd only expect a warranty on a new car anyway), but those 'magic words' let the Seller off the hook no matter what's wrong with the car. If it explodes on the way down the driveway, it's now your problem. It's that "Sold As Is" clause that allowed the stereotypical dishonest Used Car Salesman persona to develop. Even if he fed you bald-faced lies, he can just point at that and say "too bad buddy - Sold As Is".

There is no mention of the words "AS IS" in his add. and i have a screen caption of the add save on power point. i know its assumed that used cars are as is. but in the court (if it goes there) if its not mentioned then i can use that against him in the case.

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Sadly not all sellers are honest. Here in the uk i travelled over 200 miles to look at a fiero after the seller sent me many pics and i had talked on the phone with him. In the pics it looked great, but when i saw it the whole front end was smashed in! Safe to say i was not happy and no i did not buy it either.

he saved you from wasting your time.. fly'n out to the car only to find the clutch is fubard..
you backing out of the sale of your car. left someone else on the hook also..
at least he came clean before you got there..
unless you told the guy buy'n your car that it's sale is pending the outcome of the car you wanted.. you totally screwed your buyer..
I'd have still sold my car, and if drive able drove the one you wanted back less the money you thought a bad clutch dropped the price..
sucks all around..

You could take that title to a "cash for your title" place. Ask for whatever dollar amount your out<? and not worry about them taking your car Let them go take that car.

Just out of curiosity, assume the seller was straight up honest, and the car didn't have any problems when you picked it up. You were going to drive it, with zero experience with the car, 2,000 miles across the country. What would you have done if the thing lunched an engine or trans part way back?

I'd say even if you don't get your money back, you've just gotten a pretty cheap life lesson here.

quote Originally posted by E.Furgal: he saved you from wasting your time.. fly'n out to the car only to find the clutch is fubard.. you backing out of the sale of your car. left someone else on the hook also.. at least he came clean before you got there.. unless you told the guy buy'n your car that it's sale is pending the outcome of the car you wanted.. you totally screwed your buyer.. I'd have still sold my car, and if drive able drove the one you wanted back less the money you thought a bad clutch dropped the price.. sucks all around..

Yes it was a sale pending deal. He gave me a down payment which i gave him back. Yhe catlr was drivable but 4yh gear was no use and 3rd would slip/ pop out of gear. I disnt feel safe driving like that.

Revin- thats juat mean, nice one thou.
Urbex- i have a friend in that area (unfortantly dieant know how to drive a stick) i would have test drive the car and if wasnt happy i would stay with him and by a ticket back yo san diego. The thing im upset about is how he lied about the mechanical condition of it knowing damn well i was going to be inspecting it prior to officially purchasing it.

quote Originally posted by D3M6B: Urbex- i have a friend in that area (unfortantly dieant know how to drive a stick) i would have test drive the car and if wasnt happy i would stay with him and by a ticket back yo san diego. The thing im upset about is how he lied about the mechanical condition of it knowing damn well i was going to be inspecting it prior to officially purchasing it.

You missed the point.

You're in the middle of the cornfields in Kansas, and the car suffers a catastrophic breakdown. What do you do?

quote Originally posted by urbex: You're in the middle of the cornfields in Kansas, and the car suffers a catastrophic breakdown. What do you do?

Thats easy. I would call superman

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