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Product review/details on Projectorretrofit headlight upgrade by joesfiero
Started on: 02-14-2011 12:05 AM
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Report this Post02-14-2011 12:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for joesfieroSend a Private Message to joesfieroDirect Link to This Post
I have been following the threads that hairballrm has posted on his headlight upgrade for projectorretrofit.com for a while. I contacted him a few months ago about possibly buying some and got the ball rolling as he was still unveiling and perfecting the product. We both realized that I had something he needed and he had something I wanted so we decided to do a retail trade, I have access to a 3M architectural film that he uses on his buckets so we traded that for his complete kit.

I opted for unfinished buckets without the film applied (oddly enough) and decided just to sand them down and paint them black. The ABS he uses is bonded together very well but that creates seams and glue shows in some areas. Since I was also doing a gen2 headlight motor upgrade with freshly rebuilt motors, I figure the popup function should work flawlessly for years to come which means the only time you will see my buckets is at night when the lights are up which means its dark out, and when my hood is open the lights are down anyway so it is harder to see most of it all. The film covers all the seams and makes for a nicer finish, but I just chose to paint mine black because of the reasons mentioned.

I got a package in the mail on Friday that had two headlight buckets, 4 Hella modules (2 high beam 2 low beam), a full wiring harness built by him, bolts, screws and various other hardware. My battery is front mounted so the power source is up front making things easier because the power comes straight off the battery, through a supplied fuse block and then to the relays. One of the reasons I am documenting this is so it is easier to understand the wiring end of it because there is no printed instructions as of yet, I had to study what went where and make some educated guesses, but it was nothing too painful.

First off, the main wiring harness is two relays with 4 wiring looms coming off of it. I chose to mount my relays on the passenger side to the outside of the headlight bucket to keep the wiring out of sight. This was easier for me though because my fenders, bumpers, and wheel wells are all removed for other reasons.


Two of the looms are for the left and right headlights, one connects to the fuse block for power, and the other one connects to your existing connector that used to plug into the old headlight, this just gives signal to the relays when the lights are on so very little power runs through this. That connector that plugs into the old headlight connector was just three terminals and the plastic block was in a bag so I had to put the terminals into the connector, no big deal. The wire colors match your headlight connector so it was just a matter of putting the right color in the right location of the connector. I routed the old headlight connector outside into the fenderwell to clean the bucket area up a bit.



The new headlight connectors are simple, they just sit into the buckets and there is a ground terminal for each side that you can use the existing ground screw in the headlight bucket area for. Since my front bumper was off, I routed the drivers side across the car just over the front bumper support.





All thats left now for the wiring was the power. There is a short harness with one big terminal that connects to the positive battery terminal and two leads on the other side for the fuse block. The two leads provides separate fused power for high and low beams so that if one fuse blows you arent stuck without lights. Here you can see the fuse block, small battery wire harness, and the loom coming from the relay harness that gets connected to the other side of the fuses.



From the relay harness, I just routed my two power wires (which are meant to be too long so you can cut them to length and add the supplied terminals and heat shrink tubing) under the headlight bucket area alongside my horn wiring and then across the sway bar, zip tied in place to keep it safe and away from damage and up through my existing positive cable hole in my battery tray.











Finally to cut it to length, solder on the new terminals and attach to the fuse block.



Now I just made sure everything was zip tied (using supplied zip ties) and safe from chafing or any other road hazard. Pretty easy once you determine where you want to put everything. Once I had an idea what I wanted to do and figured out what everything was, it all only took about a half hour to do.

I will add more to this as I get the modules installed into the buckets and the buckets installed to the motor support and finally in the car.

-Joe

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Report this Post02-14-2011 09:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Ang84IndySend a Private Message to Ang84IndyDirect Link to This Post
Very interested. Will be following this.
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Report this Post02-14-2011 09:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Macs86GTSend a Private Message to Macs86GTDirect Link to This Post
you truly are a mad madman, nice work with the battery relocation, and a friendly reminder treat all rust before you put the pannels back on
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Report this Post02-16-2011 11:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for joesfieroSend a Private Message to joesfieroDirect Link to This Post
Next up is replacing your old lights with the new buckets and preparing then for installation into the car. I also did a gen2 headlight conversion at the same time so I replaced my motor, if you arent replacing your motor you can skip those steps.

First off, here is what you will have once you have disconnected the assembly from the car


And after removing the old motor


Then you can take the two side hinge bolts out, you will retain these and reuse them on the new buckets.
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And the pushrod, there is a center bolt that holds this to the bucket, you can discard it because you will be using a new supplied bolt or if your like me and you have a bucket O Fiero bolts throw it in there.


Now get rid of that old light assembly somewhere. You wont need anything else off of it for the conversion. Here is my bracket with the gen2 motor installed.


And this is the new bucket held on with the old hinge screws. Im not sure if its possible to mix up the two sides as I didnt try, but make sure you are putting the correct one on.


Install the new pushrod bolt to attach the bucket to the motor.


Here I have it in the car to check operation, fit, clearances, stuff like that. The bolts arent tight yet but I could technically have installed it at this point.


All the way up, the motor stops seem to be at good heights both up and down with the new buckets.




Thats it, this part is really simple because its really only 3 bolts to just change the buckets themselves out. It also gives you an opportunity to clean and or paint anything you want while you have it apart.

Next up is installing the modules themselves into the new buckets.

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Report this Post02-17-2011 02:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hairballrmClick Here to visit hairballrm's HomePageSend a Private Message to hairballrmDirect Link to This Post
Joe,
Flat black looks great!
What brand/product paint did you use?

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Report this Post02-17-2011 01:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for joesfieroSend a Private Message to joesfieroDirect Link to This Post
Thanks, its Duplicolor trim paint. I think I picked it up at Advance auto with the other paints. I just touched up the sanding a little bit before painting it, its not perfect it could use a little more finishing but this will do for now.

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Report this Post04-20-2011 09:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for joesfieroSend a Private Message to joesfieroDirect Link to This Post
Bumping this, I got in too big a hurry getting the car together for the Daytona show that I didnt get to snap pics of installing the modules into the buckets, but its really easy and straight forward.

Rick let me know if want me to remove any of the pics and which ones.

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Report this Post04-21-2011 02:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hairballrmClick Here to visit hairballrm's HomePageSend a Private Message to hairballrmDirect Link to This Post
I worry too much.
They're all great, leave em all.
I do look forward to more of your feedback on my design.

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Report this Post04-21-2011 03:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Austrian ImportSend a Private Message to Austrian ImportDirect Link to This Post
I'm starting to like these more than Fiero1Fan's version. These new buckets seem better engineered and more thought out. They also have a bit more of an OEM feel to them..

Now I just need to get to measuring if Hellas 60mm, or 90mm HID/Xenon modules will fit in those.
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Originally posted by Austrian Import:

I'm starting to like these more than Fiero1Fan's version. These new buckets seem better engineered and more thought out. They also have a bit more of an OEM feel to them..

Now I just need to get to measuring if Hellas 60mm, or 90mm HID/Xenon modules will fit in those.


That something you can answer, Rick?
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Report this Post04-21-2011 11:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hairballrmClick Here to visit hairballrm's HomePageSend a Private Message to hairballrmDirect Link to This Post
I can, but I don't want to hijack this thread.
I'll talk about it in the mall
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...4/HTML/054226-2.html

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Originally posted by hairballrm:

I can, but I don't want to hijack this thread.
I'll talk about it in the mall
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...4/HTML/054226-2.html



That's fine too. Thanks.
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Report this Post08-03-2012 11:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for joesfieroSend a Private Message to joesfieroDirect Link to This Post
Bumping this as I have had these lights in my car for a year and a half now and they work so well, I couldnt be happier.



I see the thread is back in the mall lately and I will be in the market for a set in a few months myself so I will be contacting Rick for another set maybe with the newer design.

Seriously a good product for the Fiero.

-Joe
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Report this Post08-04-2012 12:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Tony KaniaSend a Private Message to Tony KaniaDirect Link to This Post
Rick is a pretty cool fellow. I am hoping that he shows up at Northwest Fierofest this year. i always look forward to seeing him.

The lights look amazing. I am happy that you are happy.

Tony
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