I have an 85 SE with a V6 and was just thinking to myself.. The 85 SE is the only Fiero with the original coupe body style to have a V6 from the factory right? Just a thought.

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Richard
1985 Fiero SE V6
1986 Fiero GT

*Technically* no. The '88 Formula uses the standard coupe body with GT running gear.

Now if you're speaking of the bumper pad cars, then yes, you are correct.

Yeah, I meant the original coupe body style.

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Richard
1985 Fiero SE V6
1986 Fiero GT

the 86 2m6 is also a coupe body with pads

quote Originally posted by bubbajoexxx: the 86 2m6 is also a coupe body with pads

Now you've got me curious. I've got the '86 options brochure hiding somewhere in my shop but I'm pretty certain in '86 the only way to get a V6 was to order the GT or SE with V6 option. My first car was a brand new '86 SE V6 notchback, but with the aero nose not the bumper pad nose.

quote Originally posted by Bloozberry: Now you've got me curious. I've got the '86 options brochure hiding somewhere in my shop but I'm pretty certain in '86 the only way to get a V6 was to order the GT or SE with V6 option. My first car was a brand new '86 SE V6 notchback, but with the aero nose not the bumper pad nose.

I've actually heard it both ways as well, although personally I cannot readily confirm an '86 2M6 with bumper pads. All of the ones I have seen in person have been aero notchbacks, and the '85 2M6s have been bumper pads.

If it's true, it would have a 1G2PF379#GP2##### VIN number if it were an '86 2M6 with bumper pads OEM.

its the only V6 with the bumper pad body style from the factory.

I've been following Fieros since '85, when I bought my first one, an '85 GT.
(I really followed since the beginning, but wasn't inclined to buy a 4 banger, since I was driving a Monza with a 350 at the time.)
I followed all of the new releases. (I'm surprised that the Pontiac dealer's security detail didn't have me locked up, I drove through there so frequently.)
I never, even once, saw a V6 bumperpad car, other than the '85 SE.
All of the '86 V6s were SEs, with the aero body style, and later the fastback GTs. (While we're on this, there was never a notchie '86 GT. All the notchies were SEs.)

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Raydar
88 Formula IMSA Fastback. 4.9, NVG T550

Praise the Lowered!

http://media.photobucket.co...ant/tomsfiero024.jpg check it out

the 86 2m6 was avalable as an SE with aero nose or base model 2m6 non se

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I love the look of the bumperpad Fieros, but I dislike the power (or lack thereof) of the Iron Dukes, so my dream Fiero is a White 1985 SE manual V6. I can't imagine how hard it's going to find one like that in my area so I think I'll have to do a little "customization".

Edit: Actually, it'd be really cool to get any year GT, get some white bumperpad panels, swap them on, then when I feel like switching I could put the GT panels on for a while!

[This message has been edited by ThatFieroKid (edited 11-23-2011).]

quote Originally posted by ThatFieroKid: I love the look of the bumperpad Fieros, but I dislike the power (or lack thereof) of the Iron Dukes, so my dream Fiero is a White 1985 SE manual V6. I can't imagine how hard it's going to find one like that in my area so I think I'll have to do a little "customization". Edit: Actually, it'd be really cool to get any year GT, get some white bumperpad panels, swap them on, then when I feel like switching I could put the GT panels on for a while!

I'm inclined to agree with you,

but then again, I am somewhat biased......



My toy for the last 3-3/4 years.

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Marko.

'85 SE 2M6 Muncie 4 speed.
a.k.a "The Rumble Seat"

quote Originally posted by bubbajoexxx: http://media.photobucket.co...ant/tomsfiero024.jpg check it out the 86 2m6 was avalable as an SE with aero nose or base model 2m6 non se

Pic of that car's VIN tag? or the RPO sheet?

quote Originally posted by Marko: I'm inclined to agree with you, but then again, I am somewhat biased...... My toy for the last 3-3/4 years.

LOL what a coincidence! That is a beautiful car you have there. I hope I can find one just like that.

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quote Originally posted by ThatFieroKid: I love the look of the bumperpad Fieros, but I dislike the power (or lack thereof) of the Iron Dukes, so my dream Fiero is a White 1985 SE manual V6. I can't imagine how hard it's going to find one like that in my area so I think I'll have to do a little "customization". Edit: Actually, it'd be really cool to get any year GT, get some white bumperpad panels, swap them on, then when I feel like switching I could put the GT panels on for a while!

They are hard to find... I am a proud owner of one..

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Richard
1985 Fiero SE V6
1986 Fiero GT

According to all the dealer info I have the V6 in the Bumper pads was a 1985 option only with the the 2M6 SE or sport coupe.

In 1986 the V6 was a aero body SE option with the 4 being standard and GT only. The Bumper Pads were all 4 cylinders. I have been a 85 2M6 owner going on 27 years and take pride in owning something different.

Note of trivia. The 85 2M6 was the lightest V6 Fiero ever factory built. It was not much lighter but enough for bragging rights.

quote Originally posted by bubbajoexxx: http://media.photobucket.co...ant/tomsfiero024.jpg check it out the 86 2m6 was avalable as an SE with aero nose or base model 2m6 non se

With all due respect, I'm not sure what that picture is supposed to show Bubbajoe. I see a car on a lift that doesn't have an engine, you can't see the sail panel marking, and no proof of what model year it is.

According to Gary Witzenburg's book Fiero Pontiac's Potent Mid Engine Sports Car page 76, "The V6 engine remained standard in the GT, optional in the SE..." "For '86 though, Pontiac called the [1985] GT the SE." "...rounded nose, four big pipes out bck, optional wing."

I still have to dig up the early '86 sales brochure... stay tuned.

quote Originally posted by Bloozberry: With all due respect, I'm not sure what that picture is supposed to show Bubbajoe. I see a car on a lift that doesn't have an engine, you can't see the sail panel marking, and no proof of what model year it is. According to Gary Witzenburg's book Fiero Pontiac's Potent Mid Engine Sports Car page 76, "The V6 engine remained standard in the GT, optional in the SE..." "For '86 though, Pontiac called the [1985] GT the SE." "...rounded nose, four big pipes out bck, optional wing." I still have to dig up the early '86 sales brochure... stay tuned.

No need as you are correct!

As promised, here's the page from the early 1986 factory sales brochure (it predates the availability of the GT).



As I suspected, the V6 wasn't available in anything except the SE. On page 2 of the brochure, it states: "Fiero SE's styling and performance refinements for 1986 include... a slippery areo nose plus special ground effect side skirts that help master the wind for optimum aerodynamics".

So that supports the point of view that no '86 bumper pad cars were offered with V6's. I would be skeptical of any claims stating otherwise unless the VIN could be documented and certified true by a reliable source.

Here in town there used to be an 85SE with a V6. It did have a bumper-pad rear fascia with the old style front fascia.

The rear exhaust tail pipes were not the like the 85-88GT and 86-87 SE had. Maybe the tips were changed some point before 1999.

This car didn't have the rally "oil & battery" gauges above the center HVAC console.

The 86SE V6 had those rally gauges. The 85SE did not. That's a fact, period.

The 85GT doesn't have that either, but has this option included in the bottom of the speedo gauges.

The bumper-pad fieros were only offered in 84 and 85.

Hope this helps.

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fierogt28

88 GT, Loaded, 5-speed.
88 GT, 5-speed. All original.

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quote Originally posted by fierogt28: .... The rear exhaust tail pipes were not the like the 85-88GT and 86-87 SE had. Maybe the tips were changed some point before 1999. This car didn't have the rally "oil & battery" gauges above the center HVAC console. The 86SE V6 had those rally gauges. The 85SE did not. That's a fact, period. The 85GT doesn't have that either, but has this option included in the bottom of the speedo gauges. The bumper-pad fieros were only offered in 84 and 85. Hope this helps.

The 85 2M6 had quad tips (two on each side) but with no megaphones. Same idea as a Formula.
The 85 GT (and SE, I'm sure) had an oil pressure gauge in the bottom of the tach, but no volt meter.
Neither had the center stack gauge pod.
For 86 and 87, only the V6 cars had the center stack gauges. 4 cylinder cars still had the oil pressure gauge in the tach.
Bumperpads were available in 86, but only on 4 cylinder cars.

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quote Originally posted by fierogt28: Here in town there used to be an 85SE with a V6. It did have a bumper-pad rear fascia with the old style front fascia.

Nobody disagrees with this statement. 1985 is the only year that bumper pad V6's were available.

quote Originally posted by fierogt28: The bumper-pad fieros were only offered in 84 and 85.

I disagree with this statement because the '86 Coupe and Sport Coupe had bumper pads too. Only in 1987 did these two models get the re-styled bumpers.