can some of you body work gurus please tell me what the difference bt the evercoat vette panel adhesive and the evercoat panel adhesive 994. I've been using the vette panel adhesive but ran out. when i went by the body shop to get another can, they had sold out. the salesman said that i could use the smc panel adhesive 994 the same as the vette panel adhesive. i've tried researching on the net but didn't see a comparison b/t the two....thanks

Those are nice products but are brittle and delaminate over time, try the 3m automix 8115 panel bonding adhesive. You will need to buy the gun to use it but its alot cleaner to use! it has removible tips that mix the resin and hardner and throws a nice bead down so you dont have alot of waist.
The automix is verry strong stuff I have even used it for other stuff besides bonding fiberglass and smc and it holds great! the stuff is made for steel, aluminum, and smc and has corrosion inhibitors in it as well.

quote Originally posted by jetsnvettes2000: Those are nice products but are brittle and delaminate over time, try the 3m automix 8115 panel bonding adhesive. You will need to buy the gun to use it but its alot cleaner to use! it has removible tips that mix the resin and hardner and throws a nice bead down so you dont have alot of waist. The automix is verry strong stuff I have even used it for other stuff besides bonding fiberglass and smc and it holds great! the stuff is made for steel, aluminum, and smc and has corrosion inhibitors in it as well.

Agreed. The 8115 was developed to to actually replace welding in some areas of manufacture. The stuff is amazing and the best adhesive I have ever used.

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What are you trying to do ? I use both products. I dont like the automix systems. The guns are expensive and product pretty much a one time use. I used a similar stuff thats made to bond new panels to cars without welding like quarter panels and rockers. It works OK and is very strong but its for mostly steel panels. Also expensive at $50 a tube. Recently I talked to a friend who has his own shop too and he told me hes just used Liquid Nails for years doing the same thing. Hes never had one have any kind of problem.

To your question, just use any brand name adhesive that says its for SMC panels and get one you mix yourself like body filler. Ive did repairs on litterally hundreds of damaged Corvettes since I specialized in them.

quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: What are you trying to do ? I use both products. I dont like the automix systems. The guns are expensive and product pretty much a one time use. I used a similar stuff thats made to bond new panels to cars without welding like quarter panels and rockers. It works OK and is very strong but its for mostly steel panels. Also expensive at $50 a tube. Recently I talked to a friend who has his own shop too and he told me hes just used Liquid Nails for years doing the same thing. Hes never had one have any kind of problem. To your question, just use any brand name adhesive that says its for SMC panels and get one you mix yourself like body filler. Ive did repairs on litterally hundreds of damaged Corvettes since I specialized in them.

So, are you saying you can use F26 (same thing as liquid nails but a better product) to adhere fiberglassed parts to SMC parts?

quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: What are you trying to do ? I use both products. I dont like the automix systems. The guns are expensive and product pretty much a one time use. I used a similar stuff thats made to bond new panels to cars without welding like quarter panels and rockers. It works OK and is very strong but its for mostly steel panels. Also expensive at $50 a tube. Recently I talked to a friend who has his own shop too and he told me hes just used Liquid Nails for years doing the same thing. Hes never had one have any kind of problem. To your question, just use any brand name adhesive that says its for SMC panels and get one you mix yourself like body filler. Ive did repairs on litterally hundreds of damaged Corvettes since I specialized in them.

I've been using the vette panel adhesive basically as a filler for cracks around my sunroof and knicks in the front hood to prep for painting....will the smc panel adhesive work the same way in terms of sandability and finishing it out before primer?

My company sells the guns if you need one. Be like $50 and a couple for the postman. Most stores sell them for about $80-$90

The automix 8115 is a great product and with a little ingenuity can be used without the gun and does not have to be a "one time use' item. It sticks like crazy.

Nolan

I use a dowel rod to push the same amount out of each tube equally on the 8115 and see no reason to buy the gun. Rick B

quote Originally posted by labbe001: I've been using the vette panel adhesive basically as a filler for cracks around my sunroof and knicks in the front hood to prep for painting....will the smc panel adhesive work the same way in terms of sandability and finishing it out before primer?

For best results, id use the SMC Corvette filler rather than panel adhesive. Ive never tried it using it for a filler so cant tell you how it would work out. Panel adhesive is really to put 2 parts together with, like say the quarter panels to the trunk panel.

If Im going to attach a fiberglass part to an SMC panel, I usually try to grind the panel down to where fiberglass strands are in the substrate. Then I use fiberglass resin with matt or chop to put them together and finish it off with a coat on the whole repair of the SMC filler. Most SMC panels have fiberglass imbedded in the panel. I would use the adhesive to attach an SMC part to another SMC part only. Maybe someone else can give you some better advice on it that has used it to attach a fiberglass part to it.

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as I recall, 994 is a polyester adhesive strong enough to bond small SMC panels, and Vette panel adhesive is really a polyester body filler for fiberglass and SMC panels. the key differance is one is a filler/adhesive, the other is adhesive.

I have used both, and other than being "rock hard" they both work great.

http://www.evercoat.com/products.aspx

Rob

I paid 34 bucks for my gun at automotive supply, the 8115 ($34dollars) comes with two spare removable tips and a sealing cap so u can re use it, plus u can buy more tips if u wish they cost like 3 bucks a pack of 4. The whole point of using the automix is speed its dry in a hour plus it dosent make a mess. Lotus bonds all its panels with the automix system the stuff has come along way.

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I was doing some research for an upcoming hood project and here http://gafieroclub.org/bbs/index.php?topic=469.0 they write about Evercoat part #870 can be used for filler or for bonding SMC panels. I went here http://www.amazon.com/Fibre...Filler/dp/B000P72HF4 and noticed the can reads "for NON-SMC fiberglass panels"! Which is it and has anyone used it?
Thanks, Marc

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