I am interested in swapping the front and rear bumpers on my 1985 Fiero SE coupe for the front and rear bumper style from the 1988 Fiero Formula, and have a few questions for which I would be appreciative if anyone can help with answers!
1. Will the front/rear bumpers from the 1988 Fiero Formula fit on my 1985 Fiero SE coupe? Are any modifications needed to make these fit on my Fiero, or will they swap and mount exactly the same? 2. Do I need to change the black body side moulding from the ribbed style to the smooth style? 3. What is involved in making this swap? 4. Where do I locate front/rear bumpers from the 1988 Fiero Formula?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
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DeLorean00 Member
Posts: 4251 From: Sacramento, CA / Reno, NV Registered: Aug 2005
Bumpers bolt on. Rounded molding would make the car look more uniform if you change the bumpers. And post your location so people might be able to tell you where to get the bumpers.
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Gall757 Member
Posts: 10938 From: Holland, MI Registered: Jun 2010
The facias you refer to belong to the 87 and 88 notchbacks....so there are plenty around.....like the formula. For years people have been scrapping them for the 'aero' front ends....
Go to the Mall and ask....I bet you will find quite a few.
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Make sure to get the egg crate impact plastic stuff with the fascias. I am doing the same about bumperpad to the same fascias and you'll need a few other things as well. Not sure on the front I haven't taken anything off yet.
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Reallybig Member
Posts: 974 From: Calgary Alberta Canada Registered: Mar 2011
I believe you will also need the black inner plastic wheel well panels. They are different from the gt and bumper chunk bumpers if I remember correctly.
Can I get a definitive confirmation from someone else out there?
I have done this swap. It is best to get all the mounting hardware, including the egg crate material. You can trim your existing egg crate material to fit though. The same with the wheel wells, the 87-88 have a slightly different shape at the bottom but you can use a utility knife to trim your original wheel wells to match and just drill new holes for the screws.
There's some information left out that you'll need to know.
I take it that you owning an '85 SE means that you have a bumper pad car. You do need to know that the '84-'86 bumper pad cars have a unique rear fascia mounting top side bar under the lights. It has more of an upwards protruding ledge to it, whereas every other Fiero rear fascia uses the same flat top ledge mounting bar. If you don't acquire it, you won't be able to put the rear fascia on. It WILL NOT just bolt on without it. (PM GADjet and ask him how fustrating it is to take all the time removing it all to realize the rear aero coupe/Formula bumper doesn't just bolt up).
Yes, you will need the inner fender liners. They're slightly different. I do know that if you already have a aero coupe/Formula car that GT/aero SE swapped bumpers will half-way bolt up to the fender liners (as they did with my Formula to GT swap), but I can't recall if they'll half-way bolt up with a bumper pad to aero coupe/Formula swap. It's been about seven years since I've done it... jaskispyder probably covered it better than myself.
All of the front '87 - '88 aero coupe/Formula fascias are essentially the same. You're going to find that if you pay under $100 for a good front with intact lower deflector, you'll be getting a VERY good deal. It's incredibly hard to find one that has the lower rounded wind piece intact as because of their relatively large size (about four inches tall) they were very often damaged going over bumps. Just that piece alone can fetch $50-$100 (no exaggeration). It's not essential to have, but owners don't like not having it as the fascia looks somewhat "incomplete" without it.
There are two versions of the rear fascia actually. If you get an actual '88 rear fascia, you're going to receive a bumper with two exhaust cutouts, as the production pieces were retooled in '88 so all of them would receive dual cutouts, both V6 and L4 cars. As there was no V6 cars that received the aero coupe bumper in '87, it only had one cutout for the exhaust (V6 cars were only the aero SE and fastback GT in '87)
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Posts: 273 From: Tallahassee, Fl Registered: May 2010
**************************************** 88 Formula CJB Arrived Finally. #689 of 1252 Time to start Working TONY! There are Two kinds of Fiero's : Notchies and Donors!
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olejoedad Member
Posts: 19769 From: Clarendon Twp., MI Registered: May 2004
As Fiero 84 Freak stated, the fascia mounting behind the side marker lights is different between the ribbed molding and the smooth molding. Once you get your fascia off, comparison between the old and the new will guide you as to the mods you must make to get the pieces to mount properly.
You will need to change over to the smooth molding - the smooth molding marker lights are longer than the ribbed version.