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camaro spoiler help by shawnk
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so i was t pick n pull today just walking around after i scavenged a few fieros and scored a nice camaro spoiler any ideas on the best way to mount and glass it? i like it almost flush with the deck like in the pictures. i know how to glass it in smooth but wants a good way to secure it? i took the tail light out because i want to glass it over.




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3M double sided sticky tape, the red stuff. Holds things in place as if it were welded there.

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Drill holes into the thickest part, that still fits on the deck lid. glass in some studs (Like the Fiero wing stands )
Then glass it in!

Gooks good! Like the middle part.
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toss that one out, and buy this one



TRUNK LIP SPOILER FOR 86-88 FASTBACK GT: Often called "the Camaro Lip Spoiler". $170


Here it is on my car.




http://www.fierowarehouse.com/

Rob

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88 Coupe, CJB T-TOP, LS376 and a GT clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAH9yjw6XR0

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Originally posted by qwikgta:

toss that one out, and buy this one



TRUNK LIP SPOILER FOR 86-88 FASTBACK GT: Often called "the Camaro Lip Spoiler". $170


Here it is on my car.




http://www.fierowarehouse.com/

Rob


well yea i like it but its a bit expensive for my liking. if i cant get this to work thats my next option
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plus its a little steep on the angle for me. i think it messes up the fast back lines i like a flatter top end
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i have the Fiero warehouse spoiler on my fastback and it flows nicely with the lines. Its angles is very close to the stock camaro spoiler.
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Originally posted by Macs86GT:

i have the Fiero warehouse spoiler on my fastback and it flows nicely with the lines. Its angles is very close to the stock camaro spoiler.


yes but if you look at my pics i dont want to mount it in the same angle as the angle on the camaro. i want it more flush with the deck. its not like its being used as down force
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I must have missed where this thread was titled, "camaro lip spoiler help, unless you think I shouldn't use this one, and should go with the one you tell me to instead". Shawn, revin's idea is the one I would go with. The double-sided tape will work as well, but I would rather trust glassed in studs than I would the tape.
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Originally posted by Hulki U. My-BFF:

I must have missed where this thread was titled, "camaro lip spoiler help, unless you think I shouldn't use this one, and should go with the one you tell me to instead". Shawn, revin's idea is the one I would go with. The double-sided tape will work as well, but I would rather trust glassed in studs than I would the tape.


haha thanks yea i was just asking a good way to secure it before i glass it. the studs sounds best
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What year Camaro did that spoiler come from?

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Originally posted by Daredevil05:

What year Camaro did that spoiler come from?

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um 80s style didnt get a year
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Originally posted by shawnk:




Not to get off subject… but, is that a bullet hole in your tail lens?
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What does the underside look like for mounting? If there is a mounting surface, you can use a 3M automotive adhesive to glue on the spoiler. One of the tough parts is blending the spoiler in to the decklid while having the endcaps not blended. You can see in one of your pictures looking down on the decklid how it would look if you visualize it in your head. The other option is to cut off the endcaps, attach them to the fenders, and only have the center portion raise with the decklid. It will however make more paint work for you.
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What's the bottom look like, open or solid?

I think IMSA GT has given you the best advice for your situation. 3M 8115 adhesive has worked for me to join unlike materials very well in the past. You'd be better off ( in MHO) to mount studs in the spoiler by whatever means it will best accomodate them, then drill through the decklid and put nuts on the backside, like the factory wing attaches. Knowing what you have to work with on the underside of the spoiler is the main determining factor to figure out the best route to take. Do you have glass experience? That'd help considerably, but there's nothing there that has to be done that can't be done by even a novice if you research and take your time. I like the spoiler, looks good!

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Originally posted by BlackThunderGT:


Not to get off subject… but, is that a bullet hole in your tail lens?


BB hole lol damn kids
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Originally posted by shawnk:


BB hole lol damn kids


Would it have shattered the back glass had the angle been a bit higher?

Oh, and just a question for the pros in here, while on topic, with all the force of slamming the decklid down (I know 'slamming' is a strong word), wouldn't it be better to use the studs to keep the stress on the fiberglassed part down? Or is it pretty irrelevant for the small amount of tension put on such a small part?
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Would it have shattered the back glass had the angle been a bit higher?

Oh, and just a question for the pros in here, while on topic, with all the force of slamming the decklid down (I know 'slamming' is a strong word), wouldn't it be better to use the studs to keep the stress on the fiberglassed part down? Or is it pretty irrelevant for the small amount of tension put on such a small part?


bb's even put holes in glass plus the tail light is plastic it wouldnt shatter. i think studs it the way im going to go under the glass. some one asked before what the underside looked like. well its pretty hollow i might fill it with foam and shape it a little
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I really like that shape, what year Camaro is it from?
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Originally posted by infinitewill:

I really like that shape, what year Camaro is it from?


dunno exact but it was the 80s squarish style
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Originally posted by shawnk:

dunno exact but it was the 80s squarish style


IMHO the flatter angle of the one you have looks much better
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I like it! Try to narrow it down to what year Camaro. I would like to go junkyard hunting for that lip. It will look
awesome with Paul's louvered vent. Pm if you do find the information.

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Originally posted by shawnk:


bb's even put holes in glass plus the tail light is plastic it wouldnt shatter.


Yeah, I wasn't very clear but what I was going for is, it could have been worse. I've heard that replacing the rear glass is a real PITA. Though probably less expensive than a set of really nice GT taillights.
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Originally posted by Daredevil05:

I like it! Try to narrow it down to what year Camaro. I would like to go junkyard hunting for that lip. It will look
awesome with Paul's louvered vent. Pm if you do find the information.

The Riv



They came on 1982-1992 Camaros.
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Originally posted by SCCA FIERO:


They came on 1982-1992 Camaros.


see i was right i said 80s early 90s camaro
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Originally posted by SCCA FIERO:

They came on 1982-1992 Camaros.


...that specific one would have come from the 1987-1992 Camaro due to the 3rd brake light being mounted in the spoiler.
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Are you going to mold it into the body, or are you just wanting to bolt it on?

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Originally posted by Sage:

Are you going to mold it into the body, or are you just wanting to bolt it on?

HAGO!


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In that case, it doesn't matter all that much if you bolt it on or not. Since you are going to mold into the body, you could use rivets or sheet screws to secure it while you do the glassing, then grind/drill them out after it's firmly attached. Once you layer over the seam between the spoiler and the body (decklid and/or fenders) it's ON there! I personally think it would probably look better if you section it into three parts and and graft the ends onto the rear clip with the center section obviously being joined to the deck. A little more work, but I think the end result would be worth the effort, again, just my own opinion.

Looking forward to seeing the finished project either way, you made a good choice. If you have any problems/questions I can help with, I'd be glad to offer any assistance I can provide. I believe the spoiler is ureathane based, so you will be joining unlike materials, there are methods for dealing with that situation, some that work better than others, but it CAN be done, and with pleasing, long lasting results.

Get er' done!

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I understand you wanting to mak that one work. I too have one sitting in my garage. I put it on the decklid and looked it over. I don't have the skills to make it work, but I know what I wanted. I could have bonded it on, worked it out, and in the end got a great looking spoiler. I just didn't want to screw it up. So I bought the FW one.

Here are a few more pics









Good luck. Take lots of pics and let us know how it is working out.

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Originally posted by qwikgta:

I understand you wanting to mak that one work. I too have one sitting in my garage. I put it on the decklid and looked it over. I don't have the skills to make it work, but I know what I wanted. I could have bonded it on, worked it out, and in the end got a great looking spoiler. I just didn't want to screw it up. So I bought the FW one.

Here are a few more pics









Good luck. Take lots of pics and let us know how it is working out.

Rob


i like it in all your angles but the picture on their site in profile....its to tall i have and idea in my head and wont be happy with anything else
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see the difference. i think im also going to cut a bit off the camaro spoiler lower area and lower it even more


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here is a quick and dirty photoshop of my idea

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It's sitting in my office haven't had time with work to do anything. 10hour work days leave little time
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It's sitting in my office haven't had time with work to do anything. 10hour work days leave little time


I hear you, 16 over here. I get about two to three hours sleep.

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I hear you, 16 over here. I get about two to three hours sleep.


fun times isnt it lol. plus finding time to eat!

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I eat on the fly I'm used to it but I can sleep on cue. It's a talent that I developed, lol.
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