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Looking for who has a Ferrari testarossa by BabyVet
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Report this Post04-20-2011 06:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BabyVetSend a Private Message to BabyVetDirect Link to This Post
just like the title says i wanna see who has one
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Report this Post04-21-2011 06:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GedgetSend a Private Message to GedgetDirect Link to This Post
I definitely want to buy the kit. It looks amazing ....Guess I really shouldnt be online right now though. I have a test at 9am and still have physiology and biochemistry to go over. I just can not stay that focused LOL
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Report this Post04-21-2011 07:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero84FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero84FreakDirect Link to This Post
Are you talking about a kit or the real deal? If you're looking for a kit, you're going to find there are absolutely no good kits at all. There has probably only been one kit that has been made that is EXACTLY like the real deal (besides the drivetrain of course) in nearly every detail. It was owned by a forum member, jdorr2002 I believe, but he recently sold it. He was probably the only one that could claim to have a Testarossa without actually having one. We're talking about realism that was put so much into that car that even the doors worked like the real thing - instead of swinging on stock Fiero hinges, they pivoted in position (it's kind of hard to describe if you've never seen a real Testarossa). I couldn't locate any readily available photographs because it seems the member has removed them, but hopefully someone still has them.

Other than that, I don't know of anyone here that owns the real deal unless they're hiding it, and honestly if anyone has a replica it's not as good as jdorr2002's was.
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Report this Post04-21-2011 09:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GedgetSend a Private Message to GedgetDirect Link to This Post
Do you happen to know who he sold the replica to??? I am in love with the ferrari testarossa
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Report this Post04-21-2011 10:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero84FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero84FreakDirect Link to This Post
I do not know. He attempted to sell it here twice, but some of the members gave him a hard time for it because of his claims. However, he could readily back them up. I believe it sold on eBay.

I don't think some understand how accurate it was. It had what had to be one of the only FULLY accurate Testarossa bodies out there. Additionally, the interior look nearly like the real thing. Dash and all (not something modified to look like a Testarossa, but you would sit in it and it was like YOU WERE in a Testarossa). It's not a replica that sold for $10K. I think it fetched over thirty thousand, which isn't much less than the real deal, but considering the amount of work that was put into it was probably fairly well bought.
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Report this Post04-21-2011 10:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for randyeClick Here to visit randye's HomePageSend a Private Message to randyeDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Fiero84Freak:

Are you talking about a kit or the real deal? If you're looking for a kit, you're going to find there are absolutely no good kits at all. There has probably only been one kit that has been made that is EXACTLY like the real deal (besides the drivetrain of course) in nearly every detail. It was owned by a forum member, jdorr2002 I believe, but he recently sold it. He was probably the only one that could claim to have a Testarossa without actually having one. We're talking about realism that was put so much into that car that even the doors worked like the real thing - instead of swinging on stock Fiero hinges, they pivoted in position (it's kind of hard to describe if you've never seen a real Testarossa). I couldn't locate any readily available photographs because it seems the member has removed them, but hopefully someone still has them.

Other than that, I don't know of anyone here that owns the real deal unless they're hiding it, and honestly if anyone has a replica it's not as good as jdorr2002's was.


I did a lot of work on that car for Jerry and I have a bunch of photos here somewhere.
As soon as I can find them I'll post a few, however I recall that I may have posted some already in a forgotten thread somewhere.
I'll need to look for that too.

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I did a lot of work on that car for Jerry and I have a bunch of photos here somewhere.
As soon as I can find them I'll post a few, however I recall that I may have posted some already in a forgotten thread somewhere.
I'll need to look for that too.



Found it !!

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/081716.html

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Report this Post04-21-2011 11:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DLCLK87GTSend a Private Message to DLCLK87GTDirect Link to This Post
Here's one on CL that is just about as good.

http://reading.craigslist.org/cto/2326919158.html
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Report this Post04-21-2011 11:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero84FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero84FreakDirect Link to This Post
Thanks Randye! I think my post mid-ways into that thread sums it up.

 
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Kit builders should take note. That car is what separates "replica" from "kit car".
























Amazing to believe that this car is a kit car.
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Report this Post04-21-2011 11:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Direct Link to This Post
Saw one of these (real one) today while out drivin the truck... Also saw a yellow F355.
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:

Saw one of these (real one) today while out drivin the truck... Also saw a yellow F355.


Dude you need to put a camera around your neck. You sure do see a lot of these exotics. I would like to enjoy seeing them with you. Take some pictures.
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Report this Post04-21-2011 11:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Moran4x4Send a Private Message to Moran4x4Direct Link to This Post
I got one CK3 Testarossa

http://img822.imageshack.us/i/512tr3.jpg/

There were built as turnkey or rolling chassis in the 90s. The roofline was chopped in the back.....Frame streched 7,5 inch....Wide track suspension....Fun to drive

You will find Daleford and Cowans on madmecanics.com they have the Koenig.
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Report this Post04-21-2011 12:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GedgetSend a Private Message to GedgetDirect Link to This Post
I am really trying to decide if I want to put the kit on the fiero or just buy the real deal and keep the fiero looking like itself.....
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Report this Post04-21-2011 12:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
That is one great looking kit. I looked at one to buy and it was junk. I offered the guy $1000 and he declined. It was 1/2 done on an 84 4 cyl car. I have a friend just outside of town that has a real one. My personal fav Ferraris are the 250 GTO and the regular 288 GTO.
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I am really trying to decide if I want to put the kit on the fiero or just buy the real deal and keep the fiero looking like itself.....


Call up a local, or any Ferrari dealer (the actual dealer, not someone that just sells them), and ask them how much the 30K mile engine-out-of-chassis service is. This isn't something you can neglect and is part of the routine service for every 'red head' 512TR. You'll be surprised, considering the age of the car. I bet they'll quote you right around $15,000 when it's all said and done - and that's only if nothing else has to be replaced. It's one of the reasons why you see some Testarossas go for right above $30K, and others upwards of $50K. The engine-out service is a big deal - and a big selling point for a car. The engine-out service would show the entire car has been gone through. If it hasn't been completed, there's no serious way of knowing the condition of the car other than visual inspection and test driving (and/or the seller's word).
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Originally posted by GADJet:


Dude you need to put a camera around your neck. You sure do see a lot of these exotics. I would like to enjoy seeing them with you. Take some pictures.



Ehh its not uncommon to see them around here. I live very close to a very wealthy area of PA (mainline) and parts of my county are very wealthy as well (chester county) where standard equipment for a garage is a new Mercedes as a daily driver.I'm rockin the middle class ballin with a solstice(which turns heads more than you would think ) If you ever come up around there though watch out. mainline drivers are worse than NYC taxi drivers... all that power and no brains of how to use it properly

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yeah there is some super rich guy who lives near town.. He's really elderly so he doesn't get out much, but he owns a yellow Diablo, and a Blue Viper RT.. Which he hired some 21 YEAR OLD KID, to drive around so they don't sit!!!!!

Some people get all the breaks.
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yeah there is some super rich guy who lives near town.. He's really elderly so he doesn't get out much, but he owns a yellow Diablo, and a Blue Viper RT.. Which he hired some 21 YEAR OLD KID, to drive around so they don't sit!!!!!

Some people get all the breaks.


Tie up that kid and take his job! I would love to have a job like that. Heck, I'd give up my satellite for that lol.
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That is one sweet replica above what is hard to find is straight lines on the vented areas. You could buy another one and spend half a life time making it right.
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that one above might well be the best fiero-based replica I've seen. But the interior isn't correct, so it's not that hard to spot it as a kit (the ferrari doesn't have the high center console the fiero has). edit to add: didn't mean to sound like a snob, just pointing out the one thing giving it away

But the TR kits weren't that bad back in the day, were they? Then again, I didn't see too many kits and the only magazine article I have on one is from a 1996 issue of KitCar... I think it was a kit from some Ron Rosser(?) and it did look pretty good... Are the TR kits a thing of the past?

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Report this Post04-22-2011 05:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero84FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero84FreakDirect Link to This Post
I do not know about overseas in Europe and elsewhere, but in the North American markets the Testarossa kit has always been terribly designed. I think the primary problem is that the Testarossa, unlike many of the other replicas, at the time were not molded from molds that came off of the real thing. Likely the primary problem was being able to acquire, or simply find, a Testarossa owner that was willing to have molds pulled. So knowing this, most Testarossa kit cars are simply something created from a rough built buck that had a mold created from it.

Recall that when the Testarossa was new there were HUGE waiting lists. Not months. Years upon years. Then all of a sudden the market for them collapsed, and those that had paid way over sticker for them saw huge price drop-offs. However, many that bought them held onto them in the hope the prices would jump back up and restore collectability. This unfortunately never happened.

Nowadays it should be easy for someone to pull a mold considering the relatively affordability of the car (as opposed to try buying say a Countach or Diablo). However, since Ferrari has pretty much shut down anyone that attempts to sell bodies of their cars it's getting harder to find good Ferrari body kits. The Testarossa seemingly fell into the "bad" time for kit making - no one could get hold of one to do a splash mold, then Ferrari started shutting down kit makers. Most current kit cars are actually by-products of past kit cars. All the 308 kits (excluding the Stinger) are created from Meras. Most all the Lambo kits are created from by-gone kit cars that were re-molded and re-tooled for new molds. Many are still hesitant to pull a mold from any exotic because it's a guarantee that it's going to ruin the car that the mold is pulled from.

If I remember the back-story of this particular kit car, it is one of only like three bodies that were pulled from a poorly tooled mold that was not of high enough industrial grade to pull commercial-sellable bodies. It likely cost a good deal of money over the standard $5K-ish USD that people pay for kit bodies. Hence why I said in one of my posts above that even at $30K (if that's what it sold for) it was probably well bought. The interior is unique enough to not have to completely resemble a Testarossa to feel like you're in one, but is for sure probably better than every other Testarossa kit car out there that likely either has heavily modified OEM Fiero interiors or a knock-off of another Ferrari interior (PISA's Euro kit comes to mind here).

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we really should have some sort of continuously updated list of currently-available body-kits...
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Originally posted by BabyVet:

just like the title says i wanna see who has one


Dude, you can spot a fake toupee 100 yards away and so too a replica. Barrett-Jaskson sold a real Testarossa for less than 42k. Buy one, gut it out, drop in a LS series motor/6-speed, and insure it for an agreed value.

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Originally posted by Fiero84Freak:

.... Hence why I said in one of my posts above that even at $30K (if that's what it sold for) it was probably well bought.


Ummmmm...
Not unless some fairly serious things were taken care of prior to it's sale.....
One of the biggest concerns I had when I worked on this car, (and that the owner chose *not* to have me fix at the time...)

Let's see who can spot it here:

Here's a MUCH bigger "hint", so check the above photo carefully ....


Yes, unfortunately the entire system on the rear of the car was this way, doubtless due to the chassis stretch and no attention to critical "details" afterwards

Like I said when I first posted the pics of this car some many months ago, it is a *very* nice body replica and one of, if not the, most accurate shaped TR kits I have ever seen.
That said, the difference between a great kit based car and a "parade float" is what you find *under* the bodywork....

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More "hidden secrets" :







Moral of the story: Never judge a book by it's beautiful red painted cover.
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Report this Post04-23-2011 12:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ArchieClick Here to visit Archie's HomePageSend a Private Message to ArchieDirect Link to This Post
I have a set of TR molds that I bought from IFG about 15 years ago.

Most of the molds have parts in them & they're all for sale.

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Couple of the pics I took of a real one at the NW Historic races:


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From madmechanics.com:
[quote author=Twilight Z link=topic=15376.msg176391#msg176391 date=1301346615]
 
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A fellow just outside of Calgary Alberta Canada has the CK3 moulds for the Testarossa, Testarossa wide body, M and a few other variations. He is in business and can pull some panels for you.

I can confirm that his has everything needed as I helped him sort out the mould parts and also took pics of a wide body out of the moulds for another fellow on the forum.

Thomas Squires is a good guy to deal with.

PM me and I will give you his contact number and you can call him directly and chat with him.

Cheers
Don





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Moral of the story: Never judge a book by it's beautiful red painted cover.


A lot of that stuff though is really simple fixes (in terms of something REALLY major like chassis or body work). I'm kind of appalled that the owner didn't get that stuff sorted out immediately.
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Check out www.ferrarichat.com > regional > Midwest - USA for a listing of events in Kansas. On the east coast they have C&C on saturday mornings. They are real car guys who appreciate all makes. You can see all sorts of exotics. I attended the one in West Chester now that my clutch is working again ( thanks to Rodney D ). That's my IMSA parked in with the Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche, Spyker, and Calloway. [img]https://images.fiero.nl/2011/C&C_1016_008_1.jpg">
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