Right now I have 215/45/17 Nitto NeoGen's in the front and 245/45/17 Talon Triangles in the back. Most likely you have not heard of the rear tires I have. They are the cheapest out their; made in China ~$58 each. These tires are so bad, I don't like driving long distances on the highway with them (the crown in the road throws my light Fiero around) My Nitto Extreme drag radials drive better than these PINA tires.
Has anyone tired out the Goodyear Eagle GT's or have any other "great" tire they used for the street? I search the forum and this was the only thread I found: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/078369.html Most threads are mainly on wheels.
Thanks for any input,
Curtis

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1987 Pontiac Fiero GT

Fastest 1/8th mile: 7.392 sec/94 MPH/1.582 sec 60'

I use the Dunlap sport signatures I'll look at the exact model number, but they hold the road without throwing you around and they hold traction well and straight during one of those moisture events.

We have Goodyear GT Eagles GS-H, 215-60R15 all the way around our 87GT (stock). I must say they work great, nice ride, very good grip, quite, look good. Wear seams to be doing well so far. I would get them again.

I am using the Cooper Zeon 2XS tires, 225/45/18 front and 245/45/18 rear. They are really sticky and pretty comfortable riding. I wore out the first set of rear tires in about 8K miles for two reasons. I bought the original set over the internet and had a local company install them. They left them at a very high pressure and I did not check them after they installed them. I also have a 3800 SC III in my 88 GT and I don't drive slowly. So for the end of last year I put on some used cheap tires to get through the fall and winter and then just yesterday I ordered two new rear tires for it. They should be in by Tuesday and then I can drive down to Daytona in comfort and safety.

your talking about these?



I have a set on my audi and I love them. For an all season they are amazing. I use them in the winter (lots of snow) and I still get loads of traction.

They are an All Season performance tire. Most hi-pro summers would rule them on a track though.

For an Hi-Pro Summer, I use Falken Azenis RT615's



And IMO, you won't get a better summer performance tire than these.

I've also used the BFG KDW's, (Flame thread) un real in a drag race, but not so good in the twisties.

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I had them on my old Firebird. (never on a Fiero) There a good tire but my Firebird span them pretty easley.

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For the money the new Goodyear GT is a great choice. It has great all around weather ability and good grip. THey are a good value.
IF you want more performace and less winter use you can get into the Eagle F1's and other higher performing Eagles. With most tire as the price grows so does the performance.
I plan to go to the Eagle GT on my daily driver HHR SS . My buddy has had them on his Cobalt SS for the last two years year round and loves them.

If you want you can save a little more money as go with a Dunlop as they are nearly the same tire. Dunlop is owned by Goodyear and many of the Dunlop tires are made in the same plants.

Also keep in mind you do not have to go all sticky tread anymore to get great street performance. Many of the new tires are compounded for better wear and still have more than enough girp for all you will ever see. Many people waste a lot of money on real high end tires that stick like glue but never have the car to the point it ever uses the full ablility of the tire. Unless you track drive few will ever need a sticky tire that is only good for 15,000 miles. Trust me I have a set of stikcky BFG now on my Fiero but when you get them for free you take them.

If you buy tires see the Tire Rack or Discount tire as they both offer cheap on line prices that few stores will beat. I live in the tire capital of the world and I buy my tires on line because they are cheaper.

I just wish you could get them with raise white lettering. I love how the fiero looked with the lace wheels and the white lettering Eagle GT tires on it.

Cant go wrong with Dunlop Direzza Star Specs. I have 225,45 R17 and 245 40 r17 on my turbo fiero and they are a fantastic tire.

Thank you for your input everyone,
You have gave me more background into these tires. I know I can "read" on the tires, but until you ask people that have the same car as you, you don't know how it'll be. I am using these for just my street tires, so I don't need that "stickyness". I switch to drag radials when I go to the strip. Also, I live in Florida, so I won't be need the "all season" aspect of them, but it sure does rain a lot.
When I do get my new tires, I will be posting a burnout video
I do not like these "Talon Triangle" tires, nor do I reccomend them to anyone!
- Curtis

I've run a few various tyre compounds over the years, my current favourite is the Kumho Ecsta SPT KU31. I run these on my work car (an '08 Daihatsu Materia 1.5) and the responsiveness difference is mindblowing. The Fiero on the other hand is running Triangle TR968s - they are the only economical 19" tyre I can find @ $130NZD each. Holds on pretty well, not as grippy as one would desire but the tyres are a fifth of the price of the Pirellis or Kumhos I was looking at.

All depends on your rim size really - the KU31s quadruple in price when you move from 15" to 19".

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quote Originally posted by timgray: I just wish you could get them with raise white lettering. I love how the fiero looked with the lace wheels and the white lettering Eagle GT tires on it.

Sorry White letters are a dying item. Most tires today are speed rated for more than 112 MPH and white letters prove to be a problem for these tires. The letters are made with white rubber that has little structural strength and poor hear qualities. Often a tire with white rubber if driven at high speed will fail in the area of this rubber and heat.

Black wall tires are not a styling trend but they are because most cars today can go faster than cars in the past. To keep from getting sued the car companies are putting on the proper tires to prevent failure if a owner chooses to drive at high speed. So with less demand and lawyers the tire companies are making less and less of these tires.

Race tires in the pass just had their letters painted on. Today Goodyear pioneered a decal that is ironed on. I have seen some of these used on the speed rated tires. So one day you might get the letters back. The other real issue is that the side walls are getting smaller so it is even more difficult to fit the letters on.

Most tire companies have gone to the sculpted sidewalls to dress up the tires in place of white letters.

When spring comes, and I finally get my Fiero back on the road, I intend on trying to paint the "BFGoodrich" on my tires, maybe white or yellow.

Kind of a good look for an older car I find.

I think I've seen such a tire-painting product in the ricer aisle of Canadian Tire.

I've been mildly curious about these newer Eagle GTs.
For ultimate summer performance with rain capability, the Dunlop Star Specs beggar belief.
For affordable daily-driver 3-season tires, I'd say BFG Radial T/As up front, and Falken Ziex ZE-512s in back.
the T/As are awesome on double-control-arm suspensions, but suck arse on strut suspensions. The 512s are awesome on struts, but only their 225/60 looks right on a 7. The 215 works well, but looks wrong.
I'd use a 205/60 up front, then work on the brake proportioning.

Got 'em. Love 'em.

quote Originally posted by hyperv6: The GT's are very very good in water. One other plus for the GT is they are not directional. While Directional tires tend to do better in water they also are a pain as they can not be rotated from side to side for better wear.

I concur with the above statement. Awesome rain tires.

Do you have a link to the new Gooodyear GT tires recommended for stock 88 GT wheels?

We've got these Eagle GT's on stock "snowflake" wheels on our '86 GT race car. They have nice grip, and seem to last real well. For Fiero sizes, these are some of the best I think.

quote Originally posted by sricka01: Do you have a link to the new Gooodyear GT tires recommended for stock 88 GT wheels?

http://www.goodyeartires.com/tire/eagle-gt/

Is this what you are looking for? These are what I put on my 88 GT with factory wheels. Just over 1000 miles on the road with them. Street driving only. Have not driven in rain or snow. Within what I have experienced (dry conditions only) I can't find any fault with them.

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I key is to match a tire to a cars needs and rivers needs. Too often people lay a lot of money for a tire that is much more expensive and able than the car really needs.

The Fiero needs a good performance tire but you really don't have the needs of a tire as a Enzo. Also in many cases here for people who daily drive you have needs a Enzo does not need. That is what makes the the GT a good tires as it mees both these needs at a price most can affored. Tires are not cheap no matter what you buy but don't spend more on tires you don't need unless you really need them.

I also would not recomend mixing tires. Tires are made different and react different. It would be like wearing a track shoe on one foot and a football spike on the other. They both may be good shoes but they both will work differently. Under normal drivng they might be fine but it you really push it it could [Not I only sale could] make for a handling issue.

The bottom line is for the Fiero you don't have to have the most expensive supercar tires to get the most out of your car and only need to adjust levels as to how it is modified. Note the same applies to size. The largest tires and wheel do not always bring higher leverls on some set ups. In fact at times the gain can be small once they get to a optimum size. Most cars need some tuning to make use of some of the larger sizes today.

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I am running them. Had them installed last October and have run them through a VERY snowy Wisconsin winter...

LOVE them. One of the better tires I have driven on, and feel nicer on the road than the Falken Ziex9's I ran before.

quote Originally posted by timgray: I just wish you could get them with raise white lettering. I love how the fiero looked with the lace wheels and the white lettering Eagle GT tires on it.

I remember the original Goodyear Eagle GT that came on my first Fiero, 215/60 14 I think. They were outlined white letter, that was the coolest thing back in the day. As I remember it they gripped pretty well but didn't last long. They were a good looking tire though.

I put a set of the new Eagle GT's on my G8, only had them a few weeks so time will tell how they work out, but when you look at the specs, they are a good tire for the money. IMHO.

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1987 Fiero GT, Medium Red Mettalic, Lowered
2008 Solstice GXP, Aggressive
2008 G8 GT, Magnetic Grey Mettalic

1988 - 2006 - The 18 year dry spell between 2-seat Pontiac Excitement was finally over... RIP Pontiac.

My wife has an 04 Grand Am GT which came new with 225/50 R16 Goodyear Eagle GTs
they were great in the rain and noisy on dry pavement
I took the car back to the GM Dealer three times while it was under warranty because I thought I could hear a wheel bearing going bad, they told me it was the Eagle GT's moving on the rim making the noise. I didn't beleive them. But after 3 years they wouldn't hold air pressure and they showed me them blowing bubbles arround the rim.

I replaced all four tires with General Exclaim UHP in the same size, even better in the rain and much less tire noise

We are using Goodyear Nordic snow tires on the Grand Am for winter driving, they are good on snow and ice but are extremely noisy on dry pavement ( remind you of a Jeep CJ with Big Mudders on it )

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Got em on mine. Love them.. Eagle GT's are the only tires my Fiero has ever had on it. Except that one time i had Eagle GT II's.. lol.

quote Originally posted by Tinkrr: My wife has an 04 Grand Am GT which came new with 225/50 R16 Goodyear Eagle GTs they were great in the rain and noisy on dry pavement I took the car back to the GM Dealer three times while it was under warranty because I thought I could hear a wheel bearing going bad, they told me it was the Eagle GT's moving on the rim making the noise. I didn't beleive them. But after 3 years they wouldn't hold air pressure and they showed me them blowing bubbles arround the rim. I replaced all four tires with General Exclaim UHP in the same size, even better in the rain and much less tire noise We are using Goodyear Nordic snow tires on the Grand Am for winter driving, they are good on snow and ice but are extremely noisy on dry pavement ( remind you of a Jeep CJ with Big Mudders on it )

What ever anyone want to think please do not compare the new GT to any of the old Eagles. This tire is all new and shares little other than color with the old tire. The old GT's, ST's, RSA's GT4's and a few others are gone or being removed soon as they were very old technology tires and were sold as OE tires cheap to MFG. The OE tires are generally cheap and not very a very good tire as the tire companies make little on them. The OE market is mostly to keep plants running and not have shut them down.

Goodyear has money issues a little while ago and did not do the advance research they needed for new product. They got a new CEO and he changed that and that is why their new tires are much better. Tires like the Assurance Triple Treads are killer passenger tires. I have been using them on the wifes GTP and on my SS in the winter. They are a do all tire. Either way the the money invested in the new tires have paid of.

There are some good OE tires at time auto MFG's want or need a good tire like in the case of the ZR1 or even the Chevy Volt. Goodyear made a tire with low rolling resistance but it has good grip unlike many other hybrid tires. The Assurance Fuel Max really works to the point it cost GM $30 dollars a tire. That is a lot for a OE MFG to pay for a tire.

Living in Akron I had family work for all the companies and I have done work for several. My dad is retired from Goodyear but I was able to get two free sets of Comp TA.s for my Fiero. You get to know many of the people that work for the companies and what and why they do what they do.

All tire companies have good and bad tires. The newst lines are usually the best and the old tires like the Regular TA radial or Eagle ST are just updated 1970's technology. Tire silicant compounding is the hot ticket today. It is where all the high wear and good grip is today.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jonesy:

Got em on mine. Love them.. Eagle GT's are the only tires my Fiero has ever had on it. Except that one time i had Eagle GT II's.. lol.

Do you find them noisey at all? I know someone above this post said they were, but they were on a heavier car.

My 85 had eagle gts on it from the factory. They were the worst POS tire available then, very bad in rain , only lasted 20K. I have run Toyos, Riken, Bridgestone Yokahamas and even a set of Dayton radials on my car since then.A lot may have changed in 31 years, but I will never buy goodyear tires ever again. In my lowly opinion, eagle gts are not worth the money spent on them. Just my 2%.

quote Originally posted by ron768: My 85 had eagle gts on it from the factory. They were the worst POS tire available then, very bad in rain , only lasted 20K. I have run Toyos, Riken, Bridgestone Yokahamas and even a set of Dayton radials on my car since then.A lot may have changed in 31 years, but I will never buy goodyear tires ever again. In my lowly opinion, eagle gts are not worth the money spent on them. Just my 2%.

Like I stated you can not judge these GT's by the OE ones. Two different tires. I could also point out good and bad model tires from all of the companies you named too. No one has all perfect lines.

I have a set of Michelin Pilots on my SS that cost over $200 apiece to replace but they are crap too. They are old model Pilots that get sold cheap to the OE Auto MFG. But that does not mean all Pilots are bad.

Many people just do not understand what all goes into a tires to design them and compound them. Many fail to even know they are all hand made yet. One man builds each tire buy hand. Tires may look simple but they are more advanced than you think.

To judge a company on a tire from 25 years ago is only cheating yourself. They did have crap back then and I will be the first to tell you as I know it true. A lot has changed since mostly in the last 8 years.

Today keep away from the RSA and ST and you will be fine.

My wifes tires weren't 25 years old and I may be every bit as stupid as you seem to think I am.
Doesen't take away from the fact that they were noisy and wouldn't hold air.
My experience was relevant at the time and still is in my opinion.

I happened to love the final version of the Eagle ST, when I was experimenting with a 235/60R15 version on my '94 WT1500. Suddenly I could take those 270-degree on ramps and off-ramps fully 10 mph faster than ever before! Yeah they looked way too small, and cut my load carrying ability, but they were very very fun! I wish They'd be brought back to production!

eagle gt 11, i like them and the car is happy too. verry quiet running down the road.stickes well enough for me

quote Originally posted by Tinkrr: My wifes tires weren't 25 years old and I may be every bit as stupid as you seem to think I am. Doesen't take away from the fact that they were noisy and wouldn't hold air. My experience was relevant at the time and still is in my opinion.

No one said your tires were 25 years old on a 94 Pontiac. Someone else did not like thier OE tires from 85. Note the quote was not yours.

Back in 94 what you said was very possible and I am sure it happened because back then they were crap. You just can't use that to compare top todays tires as they are not the same tire.

I still have my OE Eagles on my factory wheels I took off years ago I do know how bad they were.

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quote Originally posted by hyperv6: No one said your tires were 25 years old on a 94 Pontiac. Someone else did not like thier OE tires from 85. Note the quote was not yours. Back in 94 what you said was very possible and I am sure it happened because back then they were crap. You just can't use that to compare top todays tires as they are not the same tire. I still have my OE Eagles on my factory wheels I took off years ago I do know how bad they were.

Well I guess "back in 94" a 2004 Pontiac Grand Am GT would have been quite a rarity wouldn't it?

I posted the thread pattern, so if its the same its the same. I don't find mine noisy at all, nor have I lost any air in 8-10 months. Thats too bad for your luck with them.

quote Originally posted by Tinkrr: I may be every bit as stupid as you seem to think I am. .

Hmmm? Should I disagree with you?

If you want to pick a fight find someone else. There is no point to argue here. You have your point I have mine and that is all there is.

My point is the 04 Eagle GTs that came on the car are not the same tires here. They did not even make this Eagle back then. Apples and Oranges.

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My father came home from work yesterday and said, "You owe me $20."
This is why:



He works at a mechanic shop and a customer was getting new tires and my father asked if he could buy them off of the guy. They agreed to $20 for both.
These new ones (Sumitomo HTR 45Z) ride a lot better than the old ones. It handles a lot better, and there was more thread left!!!

I will be making a video showing how much I have "enjoyed" my Talon Triangles!!!

This summer, I still am thinking of getting new tires all the way around, but for $20 I think they will work just fine.

Thanks,
Curtis

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1987 Pontiac Fiero GT

Fastest 1/8th mile: 7.392 sec/94 MPH/1.582 sec 60'

put a set of goodyear Fierce UHP's on my fiero...i love them..great dry traction which is what i need for the 100ft shootouts..