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Removing Rust using electrolysis --- pretty amazing by RotrexFiero
Started on: 12-11-2010 12:13 PM
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Report this Post12-11-2010 12:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroDirect Link to This Post
I found this on the go-kart forum and I will have to give it a try. I thought I would share since it would be a great way to clean up some rust parts.

http://www.diygokarts.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9744
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Report this Post12-11-2010 12:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Custom2M4Send a Private Message to Custom2M4Direct Link to This Post
I set up a tank as well. Works pretty good!
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Report this Post12-11-2010 03:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnWPBClick Here to visit JohnWPB's HomePageSend a Private Message to JohnWPBDirect Link to This Post
The electrolysis process works VERY well! I used a plastic bucket, filled it with enough water to cover the part, and stirred in a few table spoons of baking soda. I just used my cheapie old battery charger, and let it sit for a couple hours, and wow. When I took the part out, it was covered with sludge, I rinsed it under water and was amazed just how well it did.

This is the air canister bracket that I started with:



This is what it looked like after I took it out and rinsed it off, This is with no sanding or rubbing of any kind, just rinsed it off:




This is after a bit of sanding and a fresh coat of paint:


It will not perform miracles though If the rust is bad enough to pit the metal, those pits will remain. You can see some pitting in the air canister part above. The great part though, is when you are done there is zero rust, and painting it will prevent any further rust from bubbling up under the paint.

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Report this Post12-11-2010 03:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87antuzziSend a Private Message to 87antuzziDirect Link to This Post
Sand blaster for the win
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Report this Post12-11-2010 03:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jetsnvettes2000Send a Private Message to jetsnvettes2000Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

Sand blaster for the win


Yes in big scale but blaster does not get behind weldments and any other area that is tight however the liquid does so,
not so much win for blaster maby a tie instead

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Report this Post12-11-2010 04:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Daredevil05Send a Private Message to Daredevil05Direct Link to This Post
That is awesome. I will have to try that on some of my parts. Cheap compared to media blasting.
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Report this Post12-12-2010 12:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroDirect Link to This Post
I want to try these old brake calipers I am getting. If it works that good, it makes for a very simple, not so messy way to clean rusty parts.
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Report this Post12-12-2010 01:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for HockadaySend a Private Message to HockadayDirect Link to This Post
i prefer electrolysis as well. It's a tad slow but its very thorough...sand blasting is nice but it all depends...w/e works best in your situation.
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Report this Post12-12-2010 02:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnWPBClick Here to visit JohnWPB's HomePageSend a Private Message to JohnWPBDirect Link to This Post
I forgot to mention, while up at the Tyler car show, DIY_STU mentioned to me to add a small amount of salt to the water. He says it makes the water more conductive, and can speed things up.

When doing this, a couple of notes:

- Use a scrap piece of metal for your conductor, as it will be pitted / damaged in the process.
- This works "line of sight" so you may have to turn your part around to face the electrode when one side is done.

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Report this Post12-12-2010 02:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jim94Send a Private Message to jim94Direct Link to This Post
easier than sanding or striping w/ chem. striper. looks like it works well for old motorcycle gas tanks. i try ti keep my tank full si i dinot have rust. nock on wood. b ike turns 15 next year.
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Report this Post12-12-2010 07:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RCRSend a Private Message to RCRDirect Link to This Post
Somewhere in here, there is another thread on this process, that's where I learned it. I used it to clean up my rear strut parts.

before/after picture:

I did end up going back over it with the sand blaster because the scale was so bad.

Word of caution: keep your power supply wires out of the water. I used my battery charger and it ate the clamps real nice. Ended up having to replace the clamps.

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Report this Post12-12-2010 08:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotDirect Link to This Post
awesome info, thank you

do you think this would work on something large like engine cradle, front suspension, etc. (obviously I would need a large enough tank and patience)

This works on cast iron AND steel components?

thanks again for the helpful post

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Report this Post12-12-2010 08:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Macs86GTSend a Private Message to Macs86GTDirect Link to This Post
If you had a big enough tank yes if it can rust within reason this process should work. The other thing would be finding the proper ratio of baking soda to water.
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Report this Post12-12-2010 10:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ALLTRBOSend a Private Message to ALLTRBODirect Link to This Post
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../HTML/078498.html#p4

Upper spring perch untouched...




Upper spring perch de-rusted (almost completely at that point, anyway)...








I use washing soda in the water (NOT baking soda).
It is 'mostly' line of sight, but not completely. I've de-rusted a few fully rusted parts without turning them around, it probably just took a little longer than it would have otherwise.

I also did this to my motorcycle's gas tank which was pretty bad inside. Worked AWESOME.

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Report this Post12-12-2010 05:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for zigarooSend a Private Message to zigarooDirect Link to This Post
Very interesting. Going to favorite this thread.
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Report this Post12-12-2010 05:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RamsesprideSend a Private Message to RamsesprideDirect Link to This Post
Would pumping up the power help any?
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Report this Post12-12-2010 07:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fierofreak00Send a Private Message to Fierofreak00Direct Link to This Post
My thought on this is that if the process is line of sight, why not put in a second anode on the other side? That would correct having the turn the part around if needed. -Jason
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Originally posted by Ramsespride:

Would pumping up the power help any?


From what I have heard, yes. I have heard people use golf cart charges and such for faster results.
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Report this Post12-12-2010 07:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageSend a Private Message to phonedawgzDirect Link to This Post
Does it cause hydrogen embrittlement?
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Report this Post12-12-2010 08:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroDirect Link to This Post
Anyone worried about the hydrogen byproduct? How much and how dangerous? I plan on doing this in my basement with the water heater near by...I dont want a Hindenburgg!!!
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Report this Post12-12-2010 11:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnWPBClick Here to visit JohnWPB's HomePageSend a Private Message to JohnWPBDirect Link to This Post
Wow, totally forgot about that! DO THIS IN A WELL VENTILATED AREA! Yes, it does create HIGHLY flammable hydrogen gas during the process!
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Report this Post05-07-2011 11:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post
Saw this product recently. Would have come in handy 4 years ago when I started work on the Indy.

METAL RESCUE - rust removing bath http://www.metalrescue.com/home.aspx

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Report this Post05-07-2011 12:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mptigheSend a Private Message to mptigheDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by fierosound:

Saw this product recently. Would have come in handy 4 years ago when I started work on the Indy.

METAL RESCUE - rust removing bath http://www.metalrescue.com/home.aspx


Wow, I wonder how many gas tanks this could save...?

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