You are a dick. Your the reason people hate Californians. You have 3 different people who worked on the car say it was not a DD. Now your going to try to back that up?. Your either stupid or nuts. Then I make a simple statement and you go all "teenage girl drama club" on me. Its obvious you are a crook, a liar and just a general D bag. You let 2 guys drive through the friggen desert in a car filled with DITCH water. That aint right.
This.
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87antuzzi Member
Posts: 11151 From: Surrounded by corn. Registered: Feb 2009
First, congratulations on being able to street fix this thing and get yourselves home. Second, what a wonderful tale you'll be telling for the rest of your lives. Lastly, some lessons in life cost more then others. The age old lesson of buyer beware seems to have been reinforced for us all. No one knows for sure what all the details of this thing really are except the two people involved. Hopefully they both can ultimately come to terms with what those details are/were and move on. And for the record I don't hate people from California.......
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katatak Member
Posts: 7136 From: Omaha, NE USA Registered: Apr 2008
Really, he did all that for you? What did he do for Mark? lol.
... I guess I should change Kat's rating back to a positive... ( I keed, I keed)
Hey Pat... you and Friz got nudged green by me... sorry I never caught you guys sooner. (I hate it when I pick up a rating and I don't know who, where, or why!) ((edit... already had the Frak-man))
Hey Blake, I'd do the same for you as long as you leave Mark at home - J/K .......... Or am I? C'mon Mark, you know I'm just messing with you.
My 18 year old got a big kick out of all the story telling that went on. He even gave up a trip to the sand dunes for some teenage fun and games so he could hang out with the crazy guys from North Texas!
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Posts: 496 From: Somewhere between the Red and Rio Grande Registered: Jan 2005
Originally posted by katatak: Hey Blake, I'd do the same for you as long as you leave Mark at home...
man o man... I feel the love
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Originally posted by katatak: My 18 year old got a big kick out of all the story telling that went on. He even gave up a trip to the sand dunes for some teenage fun and games so he could hang out with the crazy guys from North Texas!
Im glad someone likes Automark story time! But... I think its just cause you didnt let him... I mean who would really wanta hang out with yall 3! ha! Me, I can see that though, my car is gold, I tell great on the edge of your seat stories, and can throttle blip!
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Posts: 496 From: Somewhere between the Red and Rio Grande Registered: Jan 2005
Originally posted by blakeinspace: ... I guess I should change Kat's rating back to a positive... ( I keed, I keed)
Hey Pat... you and Friz got nudged green by me... sorry I never caught you guys sooner. (I hate it when I pick up a rating and I don't know who, where, or why!) ((edit... already had the Frak-man))
Well... i'd rate, BUT know one ever rates me so.... hahahahahaha man! Im funny!!!
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Raydar Member
Posts: 41141 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
YOU show up and tag team me with Automark while going over the car with a fine tooth comb, INCLUDING checking the title with the VIN number on the windshield.
THIS was NOT a show of fun - this was insulting and the dis-respect you had been giving me all along. Did you think i was gonna give you a car that i didn't have the title for ?!
All the other kwrap notwithstanding... How is this offensive to you?! Checking the title against the VIN plate is a MUST! Ever heard of a typo? Even if there was no ill intent, titles get mis-typed. If there's a typo, better to let the seller deal with it while it's still in their name. If I were buying a car, that's one can of worms that I really wouldn't want to have to deal with. If I'm buying a car, you can bet your sweet azz that I'm checking the title against the VIN plate. Anybody who doesn't is a fool.
Edit - Kudos to Mark and MStangs for getting this thing home in one piece, without so much as a call to AAA. Nevermind escaping having their sun-bleached skeletal remains being found in the desert after having been picked clean by the buzzards.
Paul, I'd be a lot more pissed than these guys. I think they're going easy on you. Just MHO, of course.
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Posts: 2337 From: Republic of TX Registered: Jun 2007
Paul is the statement that it's got 120 on it mean it has been driven a lot or not? Seriously was that 120miles in one day? two 60 mile trips, three 40, five 24's, six 20's, ten 20's or twenty 10's? Believe me I can easily put 120 Miles on a car in a test drive.
Your statement of underlining straight through...... Think about it's definition. Some people don't... You might. Ok you think you got it's meaning? Well you're still wrong. Driving straight through means team driving. Trying not to stop to make good time. The only definition you are REACHING FOR is "Driving Flat Out" That would mean hauling ass, in a hurry,
You mention replacing the alternator, The radiator fan, ignition coil etc. Alternator: Sorry man that was the A/C making that noise not the Alternator. Poor Mechanic. Ignition Coil: Should have checked the plugs first, they were the real problem that most likely killed the coil. Poor Mechanic. Radiator Fan: Should have checked the coolant, Fan worked fine. Poor Mechanic. Poor Mechanic = Poor Owner for shelling out money for incorrect repairs.
Had the car even been smogged since that engine was put in it? If yes Did you pay extra for it? Get it in SF? Go at closing time? Or peel it off a different car? When you top off the Fluids ever occur to you that coolant should be green not Mud?
So all in all yes you still wronged them in the transaction, BIG TIME. If that car was a daily driver to you and properly maintained to you, I feel honored to say you may as well sell the 3800 car since it won't last you long at all. 3800 Motors especially SC motors also need servicing at regular intervals. -----------------------
And your next post. Fun for you? Sure you could have had all the fun you wanted! You could have met them half way. I'm sure with a car in that condition you could have not over driven the car's capabilities.
Sorry you had to drive in traffic to meet them. I'll be the first to apologize to you, but was the traffic in front of you or behind you?
How is doing a pre-flight check an insult? I'm just curious. If it is an insult Don't be a mechanic. Hell don't do anything that has physical results, it all gets checked. Hell don't fly. Cause if a pre-flight check is an insult to you then what's done to a plane just before you get on would damn right piss you off.
Now I really feel bad for Stephen after I replied to your PM's to me asking about the Dew wipes and A/C service. Cause Really it was none of your business. It was a deal between Me and Stephen. NOT YOU. Sure sure it was for your future car right. Well next time you pull cash from your bank to pay for something be sure to think about the person you're paying calling your bank and asking questions about you. Is it their business what deal you have between you and your bank? NOPE.
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josef644 Member
Posts: 6939 From: Dickinson, Texas USA Registered: Nov 2006
I have always checked the VIN numbers on any car I have purchased against the one on the title. It's just GOOD practice. Its easier to correct an error at that time than 1400 miles away.
I see no problem with this.
Any one who didn't check the oil, tires, coolant etc on a vehicle before driving off on a 1400 mile trip would a lunatic.
I see no problem with this either.
As these problems did exist, and you did not disclose them to these two guys,when you knew where they were headed, then you are lacking in moral fiber.
I don't have a stake in this, but I do have the right to voice my opinion. Pat withdrew his comments. He is a gentleman. I won't.
I see no problem with this either.
Joe Crawford TEXAS
Edited to correct poor spelling
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Jun 22nd, 2010
Carver1 Member
Posts: 2843 From: Edgewood, New Mexico Registered: Nov 2000
Why...Is there something wrong with the 3.4 in the chop? You told me it only had 8K on it but now you are saying you hope no one buys it? Is there something you failed to tell me about it also? Please explain yourself on this one....
Still waiting on an answer for this, Paul....... Either you are just a weak minded troll, trying make someone else look bad, or you just trapped yourself in another lie. Which is it???
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Posts: 2337 From: Republic of TX Registered: Jun 2007
Oh, I just figured out what the JK in PAULJK stands for.... "junk"... It means PAUL drives JUNK (15 minutes at a time)... Well, NOW Paul drives anywhere he wants to THANKS TO STEPHEN...
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AutoMark Member
Posts: 496 From: Somewhere between the Red and Rio Grande Registered: Jan 2005
Just to have a happey ending to this Thread.....The "DD" Formula I got in trade is now on the road again being used as an actual DD with no issues. I just got the an AC compressor in today so it will be going on this weekend and the car will have A/C again. Not a bad car once all the neglected issues where fixed with it and it was cleaned up from all the black smut that looks to have been collecting on it for sometime. Next on the list is to replace the shocks/struts and then get is alighned....Will add some pictures tomorrow of what it looks like cleaned up with some aftermarket 16s on it.....
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Jul 31st, 2010
katatak Member
Posts: 7136 From: Omaha, NE USA Registered: Apr 2008
Well I am going to put it up for sale so will proablly never get a 3800. But if it does not sell for what I want and I can keep it around then I might start building a 3800 for it....
Well not a suprise but was hoping for a better turnout..>Went to pull original plugs out the back side the other day and it wasn't happening so I decided for now to leave them alone as it runs well. Swapped in a good AC compressor yesterday with ease being there was only the bottom bolt holding it on along with the bolt for the back plate but all 3 bolts that hold the back plate to the compressor where gone. Went to fire it up for a test run and noticed it was running rough with a misfire so I start double checking but everything looked fine. Then I noticed the boot on the one plug I tried to swap out was somewhat melted which lead me to finding that the plug had cracked when I was tring to remove it. So I attmepted to get it out and the plug busted and left the threads in the hole. So I decided with this issue and the manifold cracked on the back side it had to be done. I started disconnecting everything last night and will be dropping the motor out today to correct the issues. After this the car should be 100% and ready for the road again but will see when the time comes....One thing I did find when under the car is it looks like the car has the original AC fuel filter on it so that will get changed out also....And I found something interesting in the Pass side cooling pipe when I was draining the coolant....it looks like long metal shavings stuck in the coolant line..will post pictures when I take them.....
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Posts: 496 From: Somewhere between the Red and Rio Grande Registered: Jan 2005
... Swapped in a good AC compressor yesterday with ease being there was only the bottom bolt holding it on along with the bolt for the back plate but all 3 bolts that hold the back plate to the compressor where gone....
....One thing I did find when under the car is it looks like the car has the original AC fuel filter on it so that will get changed out also....
...And I found something interesting in the Pass side cooling pipe when I was draining the coolant....it looks like long metal shavings stuck in the coolant line..will post pictures when I take them.....
Again... if you were a real mechanic, you would have found this!
But really... A daily driver will lose bolts, cause its driven daily... and it doesnt need filter changed...cause, um, um, YA, its always got gas going through it... right???
Again... if you were a real mechanic, you would have found this!
But really... A daily driver will lose bolts, cause its driven daily... and it doesnt need filter changed...cause, um, um, YA, its always got gas going through it... right???
Yeah right...>was going to try to get it all down buy dropping the back half only but what the hell....To much bending over that way and with it only taking an hour to drop the cradle it makes more since.....Going to try to have it all fixed and back together with AC for the BBQ coming up.....
Well not a suprise but was hoping for a better turnout..>Went to pull original plugs out the back side the other day and it wasn't happening so I decided for now to leave them alone as it runs well. Swapped in a good AC compressor yesterday with ease being there was only the bottom bolt holding it on along with the bolt for the back plate but all 3 bolts that hold the back plate to the compressor where gone. Went to fire it up for a test run and noticed it was running rough with a misfire so I start double checking but everything looked fine. Then I noticed the boot on the one plug I tried to swap out was somewhat melted which lead me to finding that the plug had cracked when I was tring to remove it. So I attmepted to get it out and the plug busted and left the threads in the hole. So I decided with this issue and the manifold cracked on the back side it had to be done. I started disconnecting everything last night and will be dropping the motor out today to correct the issues. After this the car should be 100% and ready for the road again but will see when the time comes....One thing I did find when under the car is it looks like the car has the original AC fuel filter on it so that will get changed out also....And I found something interesting in the Pass side cooling pipe when I was draining the coolant....it looks like long metal shavings stuck in the coolant line..will post pictures when I take them.....
Well a little update on this poor mis treated car....got the motor dropped out and the other 2 plugs busted off in the head. Let then soak in PB for a few days and took a ease out to them with sucess. Pulled the firewall manifold off since it was cracked to find it was in two pieces so that was corrected also while out. Looked over everything while the motor/trans was out and everything else looked good. The car is now back on the road running great with no exhaust and will be getting an AC charge this week. It has been a hazzle with this DD car but it is all turning out well in the end.....
Just a list of things that had to be done to make the car a nice DD(well what I call a DD): New water pump Thermostat--drilled Coolant flush then new coolant Swapped in proper radiator with hoses New plugs/wires/cap/rotor New fuel filter Replaced AC compressor with used unit New AC Belt New Orfice tube
The plugs/manifold involved dropping the cradle to get them out being the plugs where the original 88 plugs and the manifold is just easier to get to. When dropping the cradle I found that the fuel filter was the original AC Delco unit so it was swapped out. The car is now running better than ever with a ice cold AC and getting 23-25 MPG being used as a DD until it sells.
I sure hope that the car I built in exchange for this one is being better taken car of. It would be a shame to see a nice 3800SC swapped 86GT goes to waste like this one did.
Did I mention this car was FOR SALE!!!
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Oct 4th, 2010
SMTHGT Member
Posts: 1075 From: Seagoville , Tx. Registered: Mar 2010
. Your either stupid or nuts. Then I make a simple statement and you go all "teenage girl drama club" on me. Its obvious you are a crook, a liar and just a general D bag. You let 2 guys drive through the friggen desert in a car filled with DITCH water. That aint right.
( I keed, I keed)
Me, I can see that though, my car is gold, I tell great on the edge of your seat stories, and can throttle blip!
hahahahahaha man! Im funny!!!
NOW, he has a Fiero that he can drive more than 10 miles, he is probably not home.... 
I figure my post there will envoke a response... 
hahahahahahahah IM FUNNY!
