Pennock's Fiero Forum
  General Fiero Chat - Archive
  F-Body to Fiero Conversion...

T H I S   I S   A N   A R C H I V E D   T O P I C
  

Email This Page to Someone! | Printable Version


F-Body to Fiero Conversion... by IndygoEEI
Started on: 06-12-2010 08:35 PM
Replies: 14
Last post by: PerKr on 06-13-2010 05:02 PM
IndygoEEI
Member
Posts: 16
From: Simi Valley
Registered: Jun 2010


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post06-12-2010 08:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IndygoEEIClick Here to Email IndygoEEISend a Private Message to IndygoEEIDirect Link to This Post
Good idea?
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
pontiackid86
Member
Posts: 19616
From: Kingwood Texas..... Yall
Registered: Sep 2008


Feedback score:    (12)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 343
Rate this member

Report this Post06-12-2010 08:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Click Here to Email pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Direct Link to This Post
What year F body.. i wouldent say its a bad idea. i owned an F-boys and 3 fieros at the same time.. sold the f body for a jeep though.
IP: Logged
Fiero Finale
Member
Posts: 2961
From: STL Area
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score:    (9)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 60
Rate this member

Report this Post06-12-2010 08:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero FinaleSend a Private Message to Fiero FinaleDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by pontiackid86:

What year F body.. i wouldent say its a bad idea. i owned an F-boys and 3 fieros at the same time.. sold the f body for a jeep though.


Maybe I took IndygoEEI's question different...but it seems like he is saying putting F-Body panels ON a Fiero? Maybe thats farfetched...but if so NO

------------------

1995 Pontiac Firebird - 3.4 V6 5-Speed (Engine outta commission awaiting V8/6-Speed swap someday), 93-97 to 98-02 Trans Am body conversion My Firebird's Cardomain Page
1988 Pontiac Fiero - 2.5 I4 5-Speed My Fiero's Cardomain Page

[This message has been edited by Fiero Finale (edited 06-12-2010).]

IP: Logged
IndygoEEI
Member
Posts: 16
From: Simi Valley
Registered: Jun 2010


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post06-12-2010 08:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IndygoEEIClick Here to Email IndygoEEISend a Private Message to IndygoEEIDirect Link to This Post
OOPs forgot the exact model Fiero. l meant the prototype
one. Obviously these would be gen 3/4s. My reasoning is
the body panels and the spacious trunk. If you want convert
to the sculpture design, that would be late years Gen 3. For
running prototype design, that would be gen 4 after the first
restyle.

Converting to Midship could be done. Other cars have done
such conversions such as CRX, Del Sol, and well many more.
Some hacking of the roof would be required.

Mind you this is a suggestion. I have two projects I want to
do before this and those could take years.
IP: Logged
dobey
Member
Posts: 11572
From:
Registered: Sep 2001


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 371
User Banned

Report this Post06-12-2010 09:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dobeySend a Private Message to dobeyDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by IndygoEEI:

OOPs forgot the exact model Fiero. l meant the prototype
one. Obviously these would be gen 3/4s. My reasoning is
the body panels and the spacious trunk. If you want convert
to the sculpture design, that would be late years Gen 3. For
running prototype design, that would be gen 4 after the first
restyle.

Converting to Midship could be done. Other cars have done
such conversions such as CRX, Del Sol, and well many more.
Some hacking of the roof would be required.

Mind you this is a suggestion. I have two projects I want to
do before this and those could take years.


If you want to make a 90 prototype clone, you're better off starting with an 88 chassis. The prototype is the same as the 88 chassis, with a few minor improvements to the suspension (the zero-lash end links from Rodney Dickman will fulfill this, if you can't get any actual prototype end links). Power steering can be added to a Fiero reasonably easily, as several others have done already. For the trunk, you could extend it a little. Would be a lot easier than rebuilding a Firebird to be rear engined, and then trying to tack on Fiero panels to it. The Firebird wheelbase is too long, and many of the car's othe proportions don't match up for the Fiero's. And having to make custom body panels anyway, it's probably easier starting from ones that fit on the car already. And in the interior all you really need is a gauge pod that is curved, and fits the 4th gen Firebird gauges (which has already been done before; I saw at least one for sale at Carlisle in 2005).

IP: Logged
IndygoEEI
Member
Posts: 16
From: Simi Valley
Registered: Jun 2010


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post06-12-2010 09:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IndygoEEIClick Here to Email IndygoEEISend a Private Message to IndygoEEIDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by dobey:


If you want to make a 90 prototype clone, you're better off starting with an 88 chassis. The prototype is the same as the 88 chassis, with a few minor improvements to the suspension (the zero-lash end links from Rodney Dickman will fulfill this, if you can't get any actual prototype end links). Power steering can be added to a Fiero reasonably easily, as several others have done already. For the trunk, you could extend it a little. Would be a lot easier than rebuilding a Firebird to be rear engined, and then trying to tack on Fiero panels to it. The Firebird wheelbase is too long, and many of the car's othe proportions don't match up for the Fiero's. And having to make custom body panels anyway, it's probably easier starting from ones that fit on the car already. And in the interior all you really need is a gauge pod that is curved, and fits the 4th gen Firebird gauges (which has already been done before; I saw at least one for sale at Carlisle in 2005).


Yeah but that would take more Fieros off the market. I'm fully aware of that it
would be easy to slap on the panels to a Fiero. There's a lot of junked F-bodys
to be found. Why not turn those into something useful. Besides "kit Car"
registration has benefits.
IP: Logged
dobey
Member
Posts: 11572
From:
Registered: Sep 2001


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 371
User Banned

Report this Post06-12-2010 09:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dobeySend a Private Message to dobeyDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by IndygoEEI:
Yeah but that would take more Fieros off the market. I'm fully aware of that it
would be easy to slap on the panels to a Fiero. There's a lot of junked F-bodys
to be found. Why not turn those into something useful. Besides "kit Car"
registration has benefits.


Why not build a custom tube chassis then? There are better kit cars to turn an F-body into I would think. And I'm not sure how making a Fiero into a Fiero takes a Fiero off the market?
IP: Logged
fierosound
Member
Posts: 14733
From: Calgary, Canada
Registered: Nov 1999


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 282
Rate this member

Report this Post06-12-2010 10:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageClick Here to Email fierosoundSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by IndygoEEI:

I have two projects I want to do before this and those could take years.


Do your other 2 projects first...

I've seen people with several projects on the go, and NONE ever get finished. They all get sold off/parted out/scrapped.
------------------
My World of Wheels Winners (Click on links below)

3.4L Supercharged 87 GT and Super Duty 4 Indy #163

[This message has been edited by fierosound (edited 06-12-2010).]

IP: Logged
Custom2M4
Member
Posts: 4414
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Registered: Sep 2004


Feedback score: (3)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 114
Rate this member

Report this Post06-13-2010 01:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Custom2M4Click Here to Email Custom2M4Send a Private Message to Custom2M4Direct Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by IndygoEEI:

Converting to Midship could be done. Other cars have done
such conversions such as CRX, Del Sol, and well many more.
Some hacking of the roof would be required.


LOL, I think he's saying to take a fiero's cradle and throw it on a hacked up 3rd gen F-body... It could work, but that isn't a fiero anymore, thats a mid engine'd F-body.

I think someone should try fitting a chevette's cradle into an F-body. FWD Camaro ftw.

[This message has been edited by Custom2M4 (edited 06-13-2010).]

IP: Logged
ALLTRBO
Member
Posts: 2023
From: College Park, MD
Registered: Mar 2006


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post06-13-2010 02:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ALLTRBOSend a Private Message to ALLTRBODirect Link to This Post
I still don't understand what you're trying to say, but if you want to do any major bodywork to a thirdgen F-body, this is what you should do...



Then put in a firewall and plexiglass window right behind the front seats and longitudinally mount an LS1 turbo with a mod'd '88 Fiero cradle/suspension and a Porsche tranny, then add a gas tank to the front bay now that there's no engine up there..

That's what you should do if you want a mid-engine rebodied thirdgen.
(Yes, I have tons of awesome ideas, and no, they won't ever come to pass. :/ )

------------------

'10 Camaro LT/RS, 312hp V6 6-speed
'88 Fiero GT - coming soon! - Project MIDTRBO

The rest of my cars are for sale
There's no replacement for turbo placement

[This message has been edited by ALLTRBO (edited 06-13-2010).]

IP: Logged
ALLTRBO
Member
Posts: 2023
From: College Park, MD
Registered: Mar 2006


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post06-13-2010 02:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ALLTRBOSend a Private Message to ALLTRBODirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by IndygoEEI:
Yeah but that would take more Fieros off the market. I'm fully aware of that it
would be easy to slap on the panels to a Fiero. There's a lot of junked F-bodys
to be found. Why not turn those into something useful. Besides "kit Car"
registration has benefits.

That could easily be flipped around. People feel that way about their F-bodies, and there's nothing wrong with that...

"Yeah but that would take more F-bodies off the market. I'm fully aware of that it
would be easy to slap on the panels to a Fiero. There's a lot of junked Fieros
to be found. Why not turn those into something useful. Besides "kit Car"
registration has benefits."
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
cooguyfish
Member
Posts: 2658
From: Hamilton, OH, USA
Registered: Mar 2002


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 72
Rate this member

Report this Post06-13-2010 07:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cooguyfishClick Here to Email cooguyfishSend a Private Message to cooguyfishDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Custom2M4:


LOL, I think he's saying to take a fiero's cradle and throw it on a hacked up 3rd gen F-body... It could work, but that isn't a fiero anymore, thats a mid engine'd F-body.

I think someone should try fitting a chevette's cradle into an F-body. FWD Camaro ftw.



Chevette's are RWD by the way. I've owned two now and they are great fun in the snow.
IP: Logged
fieroguru
Member
Posts: 11631
From: Champaign, IL
Registered: Aug 2003


Feedback score:    (45)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 257
Rate this member

Report this Post06-13-2010 07:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruDirect Link to This Post
Firebird panels on a fiero.... probably look like this:
//www.fiero.nl/forum/A...060811-1-053120.html
IP: Logged
motoracer838
Member
Posts: 3751
From: Edgewater Co. USofA
Registered: Jan 2006


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 83
Rate this member

Report this Post06-13-2010 10:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for motoracer838Click Here to Email motoracer838Send a Private Message to motoracer838Direct Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by fierosound:


Do your other 2 projects first...

I've seen people with several projects on the go, and NONE ever get finished. They all get sold off/parted out/scrapped.


Take it from someone that has fallen into that trap, I've sold a lot of stuff lately and I'm just now getting to where I can see daylight at the end of the tunnel and don't think that it's an oncoming train!!!

Cheers Beers n Gearz. Joe
IP: Logged
PerKr
Member
Posts: 641
From: Mariestad, Sweden
Registered: Nov 2006


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post06-13-2010 05:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PerKrClick Here to visit PerKr's HomePageClick Here to Email PerKrSend a Private Message to PerKrDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by IndygoEEI:

There's a lot of junked F-bodys
to be found. Why not turn those into something useful.


I agree. But I don't see the point in hacking one up. Custom spaceframe makes more sense. Would make even more sense to build a trackday racer from one of those junked F-body cars using parts from a junked vette.
IP: Logged



All times are ET (US)

T H I S   I S   A N   A R C H I V E D   T O P I C
  

Contact Us | Back To Main Page

Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts Vendors
PFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave
Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay



Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock