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F-Body to Fiero Conversion... by IndygoEEI
Started on: 06-12-2010 08:35 PM
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Report this Post06-12-2010 08:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IndygoEEISend a Private Message to IndygoEEIDirect Link to This Post
Good idea?
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Report this Post06-12-2010 08:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Direct Link to This Post
What year F body.. i wouldent say its a bad idea. i owned an F-boys and 3 fieros at the same time.. sold the f body for a jeep though.
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:

What year F body.. i wouldent say its a bad idea. i owned an F-boys and 3 fieros at the same time.. sold the f body for a jeep though.


Maybe I took IndygoEEI's question different...but it seems like he is saying putting F-Body panels ON a Fiero? Maybe thats farfetched...but if so NO

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Report this Post06-12-2010 08:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IndygoEEISend a Private Message to IndygoEEIDirect Link to This Post
OOPs forgot the exact model Fiero. l meant the prototype
one. Obviously these would be gen 3/4s. My reasoning is
the body panels and the spacious trunk. If you want convert
to the sculpture design, that would be late years Gen 3. For
running prototype design, that would be gen 4 after the first
restyle.

Converting to Midship could be done. Other cars have done
such conversions such as CRX, Del Sol, and well many more.
Some hacking of the roof would be required.

Mind you this is a suggestion. I have two projects I want to
do before this and those could take years.
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Originally posted by IndygoEEI:

OOPs forgot the exact model Fiero. l meant the prototype
one. Obviously these would be gen 3/4s. My reasoning is
the body panels and the spacious trunk. If you want convert
to the sculpture design, that would be late years Gen 3. For
running prototype design, that would be gen 4 after the first
restyle.

Converting to Midship could be done. Other cars have done
such conversions such as CRX, Del Sol, and well many more.
Some hacking of the roof would be required.

Mind you this is a suggestion. I have two projects I want to
do before this and those could take years.


If you want to make a 90 prototype clone, you're better off starting with an 88 chassis. The prototype is the same as the 88 chassis, with a few minor improvements to the suspension (the zero-lash end links from Rodney Dickman will fulfill this, if you can't get any actual prototype end links). Power steering can be added to a Fiero reasonably easily, as several others have done already. For the trunk, you could extend it a little. Would be a lot easier than rebuilding a Firebird to be rear engined, and then trying to tack on Fiero panels to it. The Firebird wheelbase is too long, and many of the car's othe proportions don't match up for the Fiero's. And having to make custom body panels anyway, it's probably easier starting from ones that fit on the car already. And in the interior all you really need is a gauge pod that is curved, and fits the 4th gen Firebird gauges (which has already been done before; I saw at least one for sale at Carlisle in 2005).

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Originally posted by dobey:


If you want to make a 90 prototype clone, you're better off starting with an 88 chassis. The prototype is the same as the 88 chassis, with a few minor improvements to the suspension (the zero-lash end links from Rodney Dickman will fulfill this, if you can't get any actual prototype end links). Power steering can be added to a Fiero reasonably easily, as several others have done already. For the trunk, you could extend it a little. Would be a lot easier than rebuilding a Firebird to be rear engined, and then trying to tack on Fiero panels to it. The Firebird wheelbase is too long, and many of the car's othe proportions don't match up for the Fiero's. And having to make custom body panels anyway, it's probably easier starting from ones that fit on the car already. And in the interior all you really need is a gauge pod that is curved, and fits the 4th gen Firebird gauges (which has already been done before; I saw at least one for sale at Carlisle in 2005).


Yeah but that would take more Fieros off the market. I'm fully aware of that it
would be easy to slap on the panels to a Fiero. There's a lot of junked F-bodys
to be found. Why not turn those into something useful. Besides "kit Car"
registration has benefits.
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Originally posted by IndygoEEI:
Yeah but that would take more Fieros off the market. I'm fully aware of that it
would be easy to slap on the panels to a Fiero. There's a lot of junked F-bodys
to be found. Why not turn those into something useful. Besides "kit Car"
registration has benefits.


Why not build a custom tube chassis then? There are better kit cars to turn an F-body into I would think. And I'm not sure how making a Fiero into a Fiero takes a Fiero off the market?
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Originally posted by IndygoEEI:

I have two projects I want to do before this and those could take years.


Do your other 2 projects first...

I've seen people with several projects on the go, and NONE ever get finished. They all get sold off/parted out/scrapped.
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Originally posted by IndygoEEI:

Converting to Midship could be done. Other cars have done
such conversions such as CRX, Del Sol, and well many more.
Some hacking of the roof would be required.


LOL, I think he's saying to take a fiero's cradle and throw it on a hacked up 3rd gen F-body... It could work, but that isn't a fiero anymore, thats a mid engine'd F-body.

I think someone should try fitting a chevette's cradle into an F-body. FWD Camaro ftw.

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I still don't understand what you're trying to say, but if you want to do any major bodywork to a thirdgen F-body, this is what you should do...



Then put in a firewall and plexiglass window right behind the front seats and longitudinally mount an LS1 turbo with a mod'd '88 Fiero cradle/suspension and a Porsche tranny, then add a gas tank to the front bay now that there's no engine up there..

That's what you should do if you want a mid-engine rebodied thirdgen.
(Yes, I have tons of awesome ideas, and no, they won't ever come to pass. :/ )

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Originally posted by IndygoEEI:
Yeah but that would take more Fieros off the market. I'm fully aware of that it
would be easy to slap on the panels to a Fiero. There's a lot of junked F-bodys
to be found. Why not turn those into something useful. Besides "kit Car"
registration has benefits.

That could easily be flipped around. People feel that way about their F-bodies, and there's nothing wrong with that...

"Yeah but that would take more F-bodies off the market. I'm fully aware of that it
would be easy to slap on the panels to a Fiero. There's a lot of junked Fieros
to be found. Why not turn those into something useful. Besides "kit Car"
registration has benefits."
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Originally posted by Custom2M4:


LOL, I think he's saying to take a fiero's cradle and throw it on a hacked up 3rd gen F-body... It could work, but that isn't a fiero anymore, thats a mid engine'd F-body.

I think someone should try fitting a chevette's cradle into an F-body. FWD Camaro ftw.



Chevette's are RWD by the way. I've owned two now and they are great fun in the snow.
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Firebird panels on a fiero.... probably look like this:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...060811-1-053120.html
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Originally posted by fierosound:


Do your other 2 projects first...

I've seen people with several projects on the go, and NONE ever get finished. They all get sold off/parted out/scrapped.


Take it from someone that has fallen into that trap, I've sold a lot of stuff lately and I'm just now getting to where I can see daylight at the end of the tunnel and don't think that it's an oncoming train!!!

Cheers Beers n Gearz. Joe
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Originally posted by IndygoEEI:

There's a lot of junked F-bodys
to be found. Why not turn those into something useful.


I agree. But I don't see the point in hacking one up. Custom spaceframe makes more sense. Would make even more sense to build a trackday racer from one of those junked F-body cars using parts from a junked vette.
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