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Finally got one... an 84 4-speed Sport Coupe by bakantor
Started on: 06-05-2010 02:24 PM
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Report this Post06-05-2010 02:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for bakantorSend a Private Message to bakantorDirect Link to This Post
Yes, it has wheels, a motor and brakes!!!

After looking at a few cars which were downright scary I finally found a relatively clean Fiero in Minnesota. The paint is poor, the interior needs to be cleaned and a few pieces eventually replaced, the carpet is relatively good but the seats are ripped. That being said, the car was cheap, it runs and the underside was shockingly clean. The trunk corners had small rust holes (go figure) and there was a little breakdown in the rear wheel wells, all quite repairable.

Needless to say, I'm happy to have found one in my price range. Now on to the repair list... the starter, the e-brake and the clutch lines. I'll post some pictures once it stops raining! Wish me luck!
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Report this Post06-05-2010 02:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTClick Here to Email Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
Good luck. Check those frame rails first. Rubyredfiero here on the forum makes and sells replacements. If there is rust in the trunk, you have to check the frame rails, or you could be wasting time on the rest of the car. FYI

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Report this Post06-05-2010 02:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mattwaClick Here to Email mattwaSend a Private Message to mattwaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Arns85GT:

Good luck. Check those frame rails first. Rubyredfiero here on the forum makes and sells replacements. If there is rust in the trunk, you have to check the frame rails, or you could be wasting time on the rest of the car. FYI

Arn


Really? I didn't know this. Does he sell trunk corners too?
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Report this Post06-05-2010 03:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for bakantorSend a Private Message to bakantorDirect Link to This Post
Yep, framerails appeared to be good. I spent a long time looking, feeling, poking, etc to make sure it was just superficial damage. It seems like this is just classic trunk-leak damage that has barely penetrated the sheet metal. That being said, it will be pulled apart before a great deal of work goes into the car to verify the diagnosis. I'm quite picky and would not hesitate to drive this car around.

I do have a question... fastback or notch? There's another member with fastback parts pulled and ready to install... decisions decisions!!!

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Report this Post06-05-2010 07:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pete 2m4Click Here to Email pete 2m4Send a Private Message to pete 2m4Direct Link to This Post
ALRIGHT another 84 owner. congrats and good luck here's my 84 fiero sport
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Report this Post06-06-2010 01:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bakantorSend a Private Message to bakantorDirect Link to This Post
That's a nice looking Fiero!!!

Honestly my only real requirements were that it wasn't rusted out, had a manual tranny and ran. 84's were a lot cheaper. Unfortunately I don't have Fiero wheels on it right now... they're cheap steel rims off of something else.

That red sure looks nice! I'm talking to my kids about how we want to do the 20-foot paint job. I'd like to do something unique yet tasteful. My one daughter wants to do it in bright green. I don't think I can do that... I told her yellow might fly, though

In all seriousness, has anyone seen some neat paint schemes out there? I'm not afraid to put some time into it.
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Report this Post06-06-2010 02:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Click Here to Email pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Direct Link to This Post
Get them RPO codes checked. See if you have the econo 4 speed. If so you got a rare option in it.
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Originally posted by bakantor:

Yep, framerails appeared to be good. I spent a long time looking, feeling, poking, etc to make sure it was just superficial damage. It seems like this is just classic trunk-leak damage that has barely penetrated the sheet metal. That being said, it will be pulled apart before a great deal of work goes into the car to verify the diagnosis. I'm quite picky and would not hesitate to drive this car around.

I do have a question... fastback or notch? There's another member with fastback parts pulled and ready to install... decisions decisions!!!



Fastback....with scoops in the quarters.....and bumperpad fascias front and rear.

I miss my wedge.
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Originally posted by bakantor:

That's a nice looking Fiero!!!

Honestly my only real requirements were that it wasn't rusted out, had a manual tranny and ran. 84's were a lot cheaper. Unfortunately I don't have Fiero wheels on it right now... they're cheap steel rims off of something else.

That red sure looks nice! I'm talking to my kids about how we want to do the 20-foot paint job. I'd like to do something unique yet tasteful. My one daughter wants to do it in bright green. I don't think I can do that... I told her yellow might fly, though

In all seriousness, has anyone seen some neat paint schemes out there? I'm not afraid to put some time into it.


You should bring it to the MFF Club meeting on the 21st at 7:00PM - Walser Chevrolet/Buick/(Pontiac-RIP) on 494 and France.
Minnesota Fieros Forever

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Report this Post06-11-2010 01:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bakantorSend a Private Message to bakantorDirect Link to This Post
Nope, no rare econo-tranny... It's the M19 (4.10's).

I'd love to bring it down but the 21st of June is my Wedding Anniversary and I'm going to be out of town. Thanks for the invite.

I got the starter out and checked it... completely fried. The solenoid was sticking and when it finally released the starter slammed out but wouldn't spin. I think the valve cover gasket leak took it out. I also cleaned off the engine so I can work without contaminating something else.

So, new plugs, wires, oil, valve cover gasket, starter, a drain of the tranny and a quick rewire to move a few poorly routed factory ones should do it. I hopefully will be up and running by Saturday night!

What I did learn is other than a few of the engine mount bushings being in tough shape the engine cradle is great and the frame rails are in pretty good shape. I'm starting to think I got a pretty good deal on a Fiero which will last a long time with a little love and care!!!

On a side note, one of the prior owners must have had an alarm system in it... there are extra trunk/hood sensors, a horn, etc. Apparently they were too cheap/lazy to remove the stuff so i get to sort through tons of unused wire.

Time to look up how to post pictures... do I need an external site to link to or can I post direct?

Cheers!
Brad

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Report this Post06-11-2010 09:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierohohoClick Here to Email fierohohoSend a Private Message to fierohohoDirect Link to This Post
Blue Pennocks image poster at the bottom of the main page is what I use to post pics here.
Download and follow the instructions.
There are a few threads out there with instructions also.

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Some helpful links I've done
How to remove inner door panels, with pics.
How to remove outer door panels, with pics.
How to make rear coil-overs using factory struts, with pics.
How to remove rear bearing hubs, with pics.
How to modify the stock Fiero radio for MP3 players, with pics.
How to come up with the right coolant hoses for that engine swap...With Pics.
Basic Fiero electrical testing "How To" and equipment...with pics.

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Report this Post06-11-2010 09:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero84FreakClick Here to Email Fiero84FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero84FreakDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by bakantor:

Unfortunately I don't have Fiero wheels on it right now... they're cheap steel rims off of something else.



I think you'll be surprised that the wheels on the car might be Fiero rims. '84's had an option to get 13" steelies. If they are original they should have a plastic cover over the center encompassing the lugs. If the cover is missing, they could look like any other steelie setup.

Looking forward to pics
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Report this Post06-12-2010 03:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TinaClick Here to Email TinaSend a Private Message to TinaDirect Link to This Post
Glad to hear another 84 has found a good home.
The guys are right on though, we do need pictures.

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Report this Post06-22-2010 01:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bakantorSend a Private Message to bakantorDirect Link to This Post
OK, got through a good chunk of work (valve cover gasket and paint, o2 sensor, fan switch temp sensor, spark plugs, wires, battling a 90* rotation of the distributor system, a few new vacuum lines, starter replaced, rear calipers rebuilt, and other stuff I'm sure I've forgotten) and the engine is running quite good with the exception of a poor responding throttle which I suspect is either the idle air sensor or the throttle position sensor. Another potential cause may be the half-disconnected EGR system... I'll remedy this later by officially blocking off the EGR return path... Anyway, I have ran into an issue I'd like to get some advice on before I go too far off in the wrong direction.

The rear passenger caliper won't bleed... nothing, nada, zip. I can't even feel the faintest pressure change on the banjo fitting (removed from the caliper). The rear driver side, on the other hand, is its own little geyser.

From my understanding the flow goes from the passenger side to the drivers side. So, if the passenger side won't bleed it the likely problem would be a clog in the short 12" or so of line from the tee to the caliper. Is this correct? If so, I'm sure I'll have a blast trying to break the line free from the tee...

I promise pictures sometime in the near future Unfortunately real work (aka a job) and fun work (the fiero) have eaten any time I would have to post pics...

Cheers!
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Report this Post06-22-2010 01:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bakantorSend a Private Message to bakantorDirect Link to This Post

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Oh, and the rims are 14" steelies... they look like cavalier rims. Unfortunately (or fortunately as far as the bank account is concerned) there is good rubber on them. Upgrading will be out of the question until they are worn out.

Also, has anyone ever heard of 17" fiero rims as a stock item? Someone locally is selling 17" rims with a fiero badge in the center. Not the nicest rim I've seen but not bad either.

Cheers!
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Originally posted by bakantor:

Also, has anyone ever heard of 17" fiero rims as a stock item? Someone locally is selling 17" rims with a fiero badge in the center.



Not stock, but I'm not 100% sure about that. 95% maybe.
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Report this Post06-23-2010 01:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bakantorSend a Private Message to bakantorDirect Link to This Post
Finally cleared the brake lines and got the sucker bled! I'll need to pick up some new lines but this will hold for a few weeks. The clamp which holds the line to the lower shock mount had pinched the line off enough for it to finally seal up.

... off to find some stainless lines so I can get rid of the rubber hoses!
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Report this Post06-24-2010 02:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bakantorSend a Private Message to bakantorDirect Link to This Post
... and my first picture attempt! If this works I'll post some of the pre-cleanup pictures and then throw up a few newer ones. I know I have a few questions because it appears someone had an alarm system (and maybe remote start) in the car. Too bad this is a nightime shot, although it does a good job of highlighting just how bad the paint is!!!



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Report this Post06-24-2010 02:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneDirect Link to This Post
While you're looking it over, check the clutch lever on the shaft coming out of the clutch housing. The stamped steel ones tend to break quite easily. I broke 2 before changing over to a cast iron lever.
(I'm on my 4th 84)
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