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Taking a mold of the whole front end question... by Fiero Finale
Started on: 04-25-2009 05:50 PM
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Report this Post04-25-2009 05:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero FinaleSend a Private Message to Fiero FinaleDirect Link to This Post
I figured I would ask here as Fiero people are experts at fiberglassing lol Friend and I have some custom worked planned for his car (not a Fiero...Camaro). But he doesn't want to ruin his body panels as he wants to sell them as they are original. Is it possible to cover the whole front end with plastic, fill in/add whatever fiberglass above the plastic like we want. Then take a mold to make a one piece front end and then remove the plastic and still have the stock parts? Or is this dreaming and basically going to have to pick one or the other...? Thanks
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Report this Post04-25-2009 05:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rolling ThunderClick Here to Email Rolling ThunderSend a Private Message to Rolling ThunderDirect Link to This Post
This depends on how accurate you want it to be. If you lay the fiberglass over the front end, it will be bigger than the front end. You may have to make a shell and then turn it over and use it as a mold.

btw, you probably want a few layers of fiberglass.
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Originally posted by Fiero Finale:

I figured I would ask here as Fiero people are experts at fiberglassing lol Friend and I have some custom worked planned for his car (not a Fiero...Camaro). But he doesn't want to ruin his body panels as he wants to sell them as they are original. Is it possible to cover the whole front end with plastic, fill in/add whatever fiberglass above the plastic like we want. Then take a mold to make a one piece front end and then remove the plastic and still have the stock parts? Or is this dreaming and basically going to have to pick one or the other...? Thanks


Why do all that when you can just buy a stock front bumper in fiberglass?
here: www.fierofiberglass.com
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Report this Post04-25-2009 06:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttClick Here to Email JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
I never realized www.fierofiberglass.com sold camaro parts....
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I never realized www.fierofiberglass.com sold camaro parts....


Neither did I.
Care to point them out for me?
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Report this Post04-25-2009 06:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttClick Here to Email JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Fiero Finale:
Friend and I have some custom worked planned for his car (not a Fiero...Camaro). But he doesn't want to ruin his body panels as he wants to sell them as they are original.

 
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Why do all that when you can just buy a stock front bumper in fiberglass?
here: www.fierofiberglass.com


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Report this Post04-25-2009 06:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Nebiros88Click Here to visit Nebiros88's HomePageSend a Private Message to Nebiros88Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by randye:


Neither did I.
Care to point them out for me?


Fiero Finale isn't looking for fiero parts... He is looking for advice of taking a mould of the front of a Camaro.

As for the moulding, as Rolling Thunder mentioned... it depends on how accurate you want it and the condition you want the original parts in when you are done.

If I am picturing this, your friend wants a 1 piece flip front on his camaro? Correct?
If so, the best way to do this would be to use modeling clay to fill in the front end body seams, smooth to the surfaces, prep the surface with multiple applications of a good quality car wax, and then spray on a coat of pva mould release. Spray on a gel coat, then lay on multiple layers of fiberglass. Add structural reinforcements - be it foam, rope, wood in between the final layers. Allow full curing. And release. The paint on the factory parts may be clouded or discolored, but this would yield the best quality of finished product. Then simply wax, pva, gel coat, skim mat, and fiberglass into the mould and pull your final product.
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Report this Post04-25-2009 08:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero FinaleSend a Private Message to Fiero FinaleDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Nebiros88:


Fiero Finale isn't looking for fiero parts... He is looking for advice of taking a mould of the front of a Camaro.

As for the moulding, as Rolling Thunder mentioned... it depends on how accurate you want it and the condition you want the original parts in when you are done.

If I am picturing this, your friend wants a 1 piece flip front on his camaro? Correct?
If so, the best way to do this would be to use modeling clay to fill in the front end body seams, smooth to the surfaces, prep the surface with multiple applications of a good quality car wax, and then spray on a coat of pva mould release. Spray on a gel coat, then lay on multiple layers of fiberglass. Add structural reinforcements - be it foam, rope, wood in between the final layers. Allow full curing. And release. The paint on the factory parts may be clouded or discolored, but this would yield the best quality of finished product. Then simply wax, pva, gel coat, skim mat, and fiberglass into the mould and pull your final product.


Thanks Nebiros88. You have a PM.

So they only thing we can risk damaging is the paint???

Can you give me names of actual products you recommend as far as pva/gel coat/skim mat?

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Report this Post04-26-2009 01:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageClick Here to Email BlacktreeSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
I'd just like to add a couple comments, in addition to what Nebiros88 said.

First of all, you'll need to make a multiple-piece mold. Since the mold will go down the sides of the car, and probably under the front a bit, you'll need to be able to remove it in pieces or you'll wreck it trying to remove it.

Second of all, if you polish/wax the car properly, and apply the PVA film properly, there should be no damage to the paint. This is assuming the paint is in decent condition, i.e. isn't flaking or cracking.

I'd also like to recommend that before embarking on the front end project, you should practice on a junk body panel. Make your mistakes on the junk panel, not your buddy's car.
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OOPS.
My Bad...
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Soooo, How did this ever turn out..??

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Report this Post09-21-2010 05:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageClick Here to Email fierosoundSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post
What year Camaro are you talking about? http://www.vfnfiberglass.com/site.htm

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