I'm just wondering what peoples' opinions are on a fiero finally reaching the 9s with an auto vs a fiero one day reaching 10s with a 5 speed. (Or will it be a 6 speed?)
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10's rowing the gears....Yeah, BABY!!! Anytime you have to shift, clutch, whatever...Wicked cool....And 10's....(heavy sigh...)...Mike
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Either is pretty impressive regardless as 10's is pretty damn fast for anything.
That being said in the Fiero circles probably 10's from a manual would be more impessive but only because of our lack of options, Where as theres plenty of other circles of cars where you can run 10's on the manuals all day long and its not a big deal because they have better options.
Id be pretty interested to see what the g6 6 speed is capable of power wise but unfortunently everyone with one, built the engine to stare at and not beat the ever living hell out of so no one knows if it holds up or not, while Im sure its better then the getrag Id still be suprised if it could hold any of the 500+ 3800's reliably without baby launches and easy shifts all of which slow you down alot. I also kinda wish someone would beat up a getrag f23 as well, they seem to hold up MUCH better then fiero era getrags from my personal experience ( Ive owned and beaten both senseless just the f23 was not in a fiero ) Plenty of very very high horsepower jbody guys running around with them over 300+ daily driven not to mention if it does break they are much easier to find. Im sure your thinking "but those are fwd, and dont put as much pressure on the trans" well its true they dont there are plenty of those fwd's launching in the 1.8-1.9 range and still holding up.
Thats my 2 cents.
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Posts: 4701 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Sep 2004
A driver doesn't want auto a drag racer does. Automatic is a real american thing it really is not an option with european sports cars i feel it is only warranted in sedans.
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darkhorizon Member
Posts: 12279 From: Flint Michigan Registered: Jan 2006
Both would be impressive but I would have to say the 5 speed in the 10s.
If you are going to be the first you better hurry I heard there was a SBC/6 speed with a200 shot/ 600 HP, no I mean 150 shot/400 HP, wait it was really 310 HP all motor that might beat you to it.
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Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
Yeah most people that build cars for the strip got the auto route, so we haven't seen what the F40 can hold. I'm not about to volunteer mine as my motor isn't that strong to begin with and I don't have the skills to replace the tranny if it grenades.
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mptighe Member
Posts: 3321 From: Houston, TX Registered: Aug 2009
Someone with either s surplus of funds or a shortage of common sense will test a F40 with a big engine behind it on the 1/4 eventually I'm sure. When I have my swap done, it should be coming in at around 300hp, so there won't be 10's in it's future. Now if I do a turbo in the future.... ughhh this thing is spending money that I haven't even earned yet.
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kevin Member
Posts: 2722 From: Elk Grove, CA USA Registered: Jan 2000
The fact that I am lazy and dont care enough to make mine run 9s is not the factor here. If Ryan gets to whore his car at the track, he will eventually click a 9.99 off.
Don has already proven to be close as well.
manual + 10s has been done in the cavi's with the 287 trans, sorta forgot about that one.... But it is more than possible to get 10s with a little over 550whp and a 1.6 60'.... which means, put some tires on your car, and go for it John.
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Posts: 12279 From: Flint Michigan Registered: Jan 2006
lazy or not, it is just a pain in the ass to shift... The gear ratios north of 115mph are just bad as well.... Cant use 5th, but 4th only goes to about 125-130.
Eh it also depends if it's supercharged or NA versus laggy turbo - makes it harder to drive the manual fast.
What is lag anyway... I hear all these people that have NEVER driven a turbo 3800 talk about it, yet people that have put together a few turbo 3800s like myself, dont know what it is either.
manual + 10s has been done in the cavi's with the 287 trans, sorta forgot about that one.... But it is more than possible to get 10s with a little over 550whp and a 1.6 60'.... which means, put some tires on your car, and go for it John.
haha put some tires on your car and watch the trans puke out some parts. what trans are you going to run a 1.6 60 foot with?
having blown apart a 5 speed at the track running only 12's, 10's in a stick is very impressive. when someone finds a transmission that will handle it I want to hear all about it.
9's is also very impressive but I am pretty sure X is going to be down there in a few months.
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lazy or not, it is just a pain in the ass to shift... The gear ratios north of 115mph are just bad as well.... Cant use 5th, but 4th only goes to about 125-130.
The fact that I am lazy and dont care enough to make mine run 9s is not the factor here. If Ryan gets to whore his car at the track, he will eventually click a 9.99 off.
Don has already proven to be close as well.
manual + 10s has been done in the cavi's with the 287 trans, sorta forgot about that one.... But it is more than possible to get 10s with a little over 550whp and a 1.6 60'.... which means, put some tires on your car, and go for it John.
How did my post imply I was talking about you? Even if you were motivated I doubt you'd run 9s, and I don't see why you won't try, I mean you'd fit in better in your crew.
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A while back I communcated with a guy who was running mid 10's with a SBC race only Fiero. He would get two or three runs from the Getrag before it blew to pieces. He changed to an auto and it lasted for four seasons until he lost interest and sold the car. A 10 sec 1/4 mile run with a stick Fiero would be impresssive as I do not believe that the Getrag can handle it for very long. You'd be running it at over 2X the design limits
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A while back I communcated with a guy who was running mid 10's with a SBC race only Fiero. He would get two or three runs from the Getrag before it blew to pieces. He changed to an auto and it lasted for four seasons until he lost interest and sold the car. A 10 sec 1/4 mile run with a stick Fiero would be impresssive as I do not believe that the Getrag can handle it for very long. You'd be running it at over 2X the design limits
There is a guy thats in the Fiero club I am in and has 2 Fieros. One with a 3.4L turbo charge motor with the Org 5 speed trans with around 300hp at the wheels. then another with a 3800 Supercharge motor with the same trans. He has had no problems with his yet. That wouldn't be a 10s 1/4 mile fiero however but, That would be a lot more power than what they are rated for.
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