One thing to keep in mind is that Lambo no longer uses those high rise doors. The new Lambo doors open like the Fieros do.
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MidEngineManiac Member
Posts: 29566 From: Some unacceptable view Registered: Feb 2007
There is both good and bad to be said about both types of doors....
The "normal" ones have 100 years of reliability in them and will last 15 years of daily use before any maintaince besides lube is needed, but DO require more width and are more prone to hitting other cars in tight parking spots.
The verticals have the "cool" factor, require much less width to open, but arent ever-ever-ever going to stand up to the amount of use a standard hinge will take.
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TXGOOD Member
Posts: 5410 From: Austin, Texas Registered: Feb 2006
I would wonder about a hinge that`s advertised for a Fiero and the picture is on another type of car. You would think if they sold any for a Fiero someone would have sent in a picture of them mounted.
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I'm going to call B.S. on this. They advertise a Fiero bolt-on kit which means that they would have had to have actually had a Fiero in the shop to fabricate and test the design. And they didn't bother to snap a picture?
And the suicide kit mentions the BACK door kits are available!? This is either a scam or a rippoff. Take your pic.
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
One thing to keep in mind is that Lambo no longer uses those high rise doors. The new Lambo doors open like the Fieros do.
This is not quite accurate. Lamborghini only has two cars in current production, the Murciélago (2001) which does have vertical doors, and the Gallardo (2003), which does not.
So I guess you could say the new Lamborghinis don't have vertical doors, but the ultra rare Reventón (2007) of which only 20 or so are to be made does have vertical doors.
Most Gallardo owners put the aftermarket hinges on anyway, so I would say that the death of the vertical door has been greatly exaggerated.
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Fierotaz Member
Posts: 1289 From: Glendale, AZ Registered: Mar 2004
I have seen what it takes to hold up a suicide Fiero door and that kit will not do it! you will be pulling the door up by the handle to get it to close in a matter of weeks. The extra support and material that had to be welded into the car to make it hold up long term is the only way to go and way more than it is included in that kit.
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GODFATHER Member
Posts: 1020 From: Summerville S.C Registered: Jun 2003
Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:The verticals have the "cool" factor, require much less width to open, but arent ever-ever-ever going to stand up to the amount of use a standard hinge will take.
It's usually not the hinge itself that is the problem with vertical doors. The hinges themselves will last forever. It is the struts. Most common vertical door kits come with 650lb struts. While this does well for most common use, try lifting up a vertical door while you're sitting in a car equipped with 650lb struts. It's really difficult to do. It usually makes sense with these doors to upgrade to 900lb struts, but when you do that they're really difficult for weaker people to close. So it somewhat becomes a double edge sword. Either you have easy to close doors but sacrifice ease of opening, or you have easy to open doors and sacrifice ease of closing. I have a set of the vertical doors on my Eclipse Spyder (got a VERY good deal on them, and I don't drive it everyday...) and I went the 650lb route. They work well because I don't do like those silly people do and leave them open showing them off (except for pictures).
I definitely would want that above site to show them on an actual Fiero. You could be sent a simple universal kit, which would leave you in a bit of trouble.
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Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
First off they want $1651 for them and you can get well built by VDI for $600 and with the heavy duty struts. Most likely if it isn't a 100% bolt-on you need to seriously modify the kit. Fiero are a very low volume kit and I doubt likely it's a 100% bolt-on for the Fiero.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
We have Xtreme Doors here in London saying they have a Lambo kit for the Fiero, and NOBODY has gotten them to work yet. Lots of horror stories due to engineering issues. I don't think I'd order some on spec. You will likely regret it. You need somebody who has them successfully installed so you can see the mods done and the functionality
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Scurvy Member
Posts: 865 From: Richmond, Va Registered: Nov 2005
The verticals have the "cool" factor, require much less width to open, but arent ever-ever-ever going to stand up to the amount of use a standard hinge will take.
I think the "cool" factor is highly subjective and debatable
I think the "cool" factor is highly subjective and debatable
How do you debate personal taste? Remember we are driving 20+ year old cars that are not made anymore and fewer people own them each year, does this mean they are not cool? I think not, but thats just me.
zomg... I always wondered why decals on doors were turned at an angle. Now uh cun read all 'dem 'der sponsors.
I will admit one thing - out of all the cars with vertical hinges seeing a Fiero with them just looks right for some reason. I can tell you one thing - You could take something like a nice GT, throw some aftermarket wheels on it, a new paint job, vertical doors, badge it with those little GM badges on the fenders (I think a forum member has them on his red 85 GT or 86 SE...), and a whole lot of people out there might think you have a brand new car.
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Posts: 865 From: Richmond, Va Registered: Nov 2005
Originally posted by troyboy: How do you debate personal taste? Remember we are driving 20+ year old cars that are not made anymore and fewer people own them each year, does this mean they are not cool? I think not, but thats just me.
I know man I'm just saying that when discussing the pros and cons of vertical doors I think the "cool" factor shouldn't be there because they are so polarizing.
I like vertical doors but to me they lost their "cool" factor when I started seeing slews of hondas and neons with them
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GODFATHER Member
Posts: 1020 From: Summerville S.C Registered: Jun 2003
First off they want $1651 for them and you can get well built by VDI for $600 and with the heavy duty struts. Most likely if it isn't a 100% bolt-on you need to seriously modify the kit. Fiero are a very low volume kit and I doubt likely it's a 100% bolt-on for the Fiero.
I agree with you madcurl. I'm not sure what lb. strut are on my decah hinges, but they have been on for a few years with no problem. The doors open up easy and are not that hard to pull down and close.
Originally posted by madcurl: I agree. Its all in the advertisement; just because somebody is says it's a Lamborghini doesn't mean you're both thinking about the same thing.
...heh...thanks for posting the pictures - guess that is the generation 1
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caseyret Member
Posts: 109 From: Sidney, OH, USA Registered: Apr 2004
One thing to keep in mind is that Lambo no longer uses those high rise doors. The new Lambo doors open like the Fieros do.
Really?
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
See my earlier post on which Lambos have vertical doors.
The Gallardo does not... But it is near impossible to find a pic of a Gallardo with normal doors as the majority have added aftermarket vertical doors.
