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White letters OUT by Ayrow
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Report this Post02-28-2008 05:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AyrowClick Here to visit Ayrow's HomePageSend a Private Message to AyrowDirect Link to This Post
Has anybody mounted your tires this way?
If so, do you have pics of it??
Please post away..
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30+mpg has/had the Daytona 500 white letter tires on his 87, check his build thread.
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Report this Post02-28-2008 07:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for thismanyfierosSend a Private Message to thismanyfierosDirect Link to This Post
sometimes i dont understand people..i mean you DO pay EXTRA for the white letters why turn them in????? so yes white letters out..tim
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A fellow Hoosier ehh? Ya i have the white letters out, i really like the look personally, especially when they are clean and shiny. It just upsets me that they don't make more performance oriented tires in white letter, because i would have liked to go a little more towards performance but you don't get many choices when it comes to white letter. I think it will look a lot better once it's lowered this spring.

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White letters out for me!!!





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Originally posted by thismanyfieros:

sometimes i dont understand people..i mean you DO pay EXTRA for the white letters why turn them in????? so yes white letters out..tim


Not true, sometimes the pep boys $39.99 deal or whatever is white lettered or white wall becuase a lot of people hate them.
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Interesting topic, my tires have the white letters out and was wondering if i should switch them to the inside. I'm still not sure which way would look better on my red 86 GT. throw out your votes people!
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Not sure what I would do today, the last couple sets I bought didn't have the option, but I do remember when Fiero's were new, and I absolutely loved the ones that had the Goodyear Eagle GT's with the outlined white lettering. I'm not saying anything about how those tires performed, that is water under the bridge, but they looked awesome. IMHO.

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Report this Post02-28-2008 10:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DtheCSend a Private Message to DtheCDirect Link to This Post
Matter of taste, and sometimes the age of the driver. 80+ years ago black wall was the all you got. 50 years ago wide whitewalls ment you had some extra cash for something to show. 30 years ago performance tires had white logos. Again it ment something to say about your choice. Any more, what do pro-tires have?
I just don't know any more?
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Report this Post02-28-2008 11:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AyrowClick Here to visit Ayrow's HomePageSend a Private Message to AyrowDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by thismanyfieros:

sometimes i dont understand people..i mean you DO pay EXTRA for the white letters why turn them in????? so yes white letters out..tim


Two thoughts:


1.) I have always bought my tires at Discount Tire and they have never charged me to turn the letters out.
2.) I have upgraded my rims from the stock 15" rims (with the white letters out) to 17" rims. The lower profile is making it hard to find the white letters at all.
It looks as though I am going to have tires with no lettering - which may look better on the larger diameter rims anyway....
Personally, I love the white letters out.

I guess that's more than two thoughts...

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Originally posted by Ayrow:


Two thoughts:


1.) I have always bought my tires at Discount Tire and they have never charged me to turn the letters out.
2.) I have upgraded my rims from the stock 15" rims (with the white letters out) to 17" rims. The lower profile is making it hard to find the white letters at all.
It looks as though I am going to have tires with no lettering - which may look better on the larger diameter rims anyway....
Personally, I love the white letters out.

I guess that's more than two thoughts...


I think what thismanyfieros is referring to is the fact that getting tires with white letters is more expensive then getting blackwalls, not the way the face on the rim. And i am pretty sure they do not make white letters for lower profile tires.
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My understanding from a former tire company rep is that white lettered tires were introduced to offer another profit index. Those that could afford it were the cool folks so that made it popular and most of us bought in to it. White walls, white/red letters, red stripes, doesn't matter, it was all about marketing and getting a little more out of the consumer.

I just purchased a new set of tires for my wife's Jeep Liberty, all the tire store had in her vehicle's stock size were white lettered tires so yes, I bought them. White letter out. Now, to keep it looking good, she's got to keep those white letters white. White letters are all about show, if you like them, fine, if not, OK. They don't make your car any faster or more economical but if they make you feel better about your ride or yourself. Go for it.

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Report this Post02-29-2008 12:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for thismanyfierosSend a Private Message to thismanyfierosDirect Link to This Post
when pep boys offer them at a discount they ARE losing money...after myself and my dad having both worked in a tire factory (Michelin) him for 30 plus years and me for 2 i can assure you that white letters and white wall tires cost more to produce, just because of the fact of the extra strips of rubber, obviously white that are needed to produce these products...so again if you get them from pep boys at such a great deal you are lucky....either that or the tires are just plain POS tires and low quality...remember when it comes to tires you get what you pay for...tim
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another tidbit of info...those discount tire racks mostly offer 2nds or what is referred to as blems at such amazing low prices...these can have minor defects such as rubber discoloration to other minor cosmetic defects that dont allow them to pass visual inspections done on each tire before they leave the factories.....again small defects that allow such "great deals" ...just another clarification...tim
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I like solid letters out. Goodyear Eagle I Nascar / They use to make them in yellow raised letters.

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Does anyone sell white letter tires anymore? I haven't seen any in a tire shop in years. I like them, had them on some cars in the past, and had some Eagle GT-4's on my Fiero when I bought it so many years ago.
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I never liked having the letters out. It just does`nt look good to me. At speed they looked
like whitewalls to me. I don`t like those either. I did think the red stripe tires were kind
of neat back in the day though. I never bought a set and don`t know if i would now.
But they were neat looking.
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Originally posted by Fformula88:

Does anyone sell white letter tires anymore? I haven't seen any in a tire shop in years. I like them, had them on some cars in the past, and had some Eagle GT-4's on my Fiero when I bought it so many years ago.


The only tires that I have seen consistently with white lettering are the BFG's. They always ask if you want them mounted with the letters in or out.


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Does anyone sell white letter tires anymore?


The Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's are only available in the original Fiero size 215/60R14 as whiteletters. When I bought mine I was completely torn over whether I should mount them whiteletters out or in. Ended up going whiteletters in. Now I only see them when I'm under the car.

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I just picked up my 235/60/15 Radial TA's for my 87 SE, I will take pictures of them soon but the car is apart so you will sort of get the idea.
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I like 'em out!
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Report this Post03-01-2008 12:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Francis TClick Here to visit Francis T's HomePageSend a Private Message to Francis TDirect Link to This Post
Out, and I don't care if it's a dated look, heck the car is dated.




It just got a set of Cooper Cobras for my 87GT. Thought I was getting all 4 tires in white letters, not! The rears were, but the smaller fronts don't come in white letters. So much for the picture on their site. Looks like that car will get black sidewalls.
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I like the white letters. That was very popular at the time. My car is stock, so IMO it gives it a nice period look. Mine has white oulined letters.

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If I could find white letters in both the front and rear sizes for my 88 Formula I would get them. I am sure they would look out of place on a new car, but I think on a Fiero they look fine, even if they are out of style for modern cars. Most modern sporty cars don't have enough sidewall for it.

Problem is... I just cannot find raised white letters in the 205/60, 215/60 sizes.
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I take that back... I have found one potential tire. (same ones zmcdonal has on his car, in the pics above)

http://www.bfgoodrichtires....s/radial-t-a/12.html

BFGoodrich Radial T/A tires still have the raised letters, and are available in stock Fiero 15 inch sizes, according to their website.

Now, I have no idea how good or not so good these would be on a Fiero either... but for RWL tires they seem to be one of the few choices out there.

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Originally posted by Fformula88:

I take that back... I have found one potential tire. (same ones zmcdonal has on his car, in the pics above)

http://www.bfgoodrichtires....s/radial-t-a/12.html

BFGoodrich Radial T/A tires still have the raised letters, and are available in stock Fiero 15 inch sizes, according to their website.

Now, I have no idea how good or not so good these would be on a Fiero either... but for RWL tires they seem to be one of the few choices out there.




I think those are the ones I currently have on my GT.




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yup BFG T/As on mine too.
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