Alright hears the deal. When my dad moved from Missouri to Wisconsin he had his buddy put his ford probe up onto a lift then he drove it into a U-haul truck. Can I do this with a Fiero. Mileage, not concerned, legality, not concerned. Just want to know if its possible. Thanks!
lol and yes, this is a serious post.
IP: Logged
08:29 PM
PFF
System Bot
JCL86GT Member
Posts: 196 From: Port Charlotte, FL Registered: Oct 2006
There is no reason why you couldn't. It will certainly fit in anything bigger than a small van size truck. The big deal is keeping it from shifting around inside the truck. You will need to devise a method of tying it down to keep it off the sides.
Maybe bubble wrap
IP: Logged
08:41 PM
Xanth Member
Posts: 6886 From: Massachusetts Registered: May 2006
I had one taken to Illinois that way. Automatic transmission. Drove it in, put in park. Next morning when my stuff arrived (only move I didn't do myself) the tow truck with bed came, I backed it out and drove off the tow truck after he moved. The movers didn't have me tie it down to my memory but, I think they did block it in a little. It was about a 25' truck I think.
IP: Logged
09:36 PM
shawnkfl Member
Posts: 2457 From: Largo, Florida Registered: Oct 2004
i watched a guy unloading a car from a uhaul. he had a 4 x 4 lying along the tires on both sides and then used two stock jacks sideways with the foot on the wall of the uhaul and the head against the 4 x 4. he put a sandbag on the jack to keep it down. i was stationed in california at the time and he said he drove it there from south carolina, so it worked for him. the car (ghia?) looked pretty beat up but i'm not sure if it was that way before he loaded it up or after.
IP: Logged
09:51 PM
Raifalino Member
Posts: 58 From: San Antonio, Tx Registered: Nov 2006
HAAAAaaaa! I want to see exactly what you do and how you did it! You must take before and after pic's! I have got to see this! Funny thing is I've thought about it before but wouldn't dare do it! My hats off to all the Pioneers with a pair of brass juevos!!
Raifalino
IP: Logged
10:50 PM
Finally_Mine_86_GT Member
Posts: 4809 From: Hyde Park, New York Registered: Sep 2006
if you block the tires from sliding it should work 4x4 wood blocks from the tire to the side walls and wheel chuck it front and back on at least two wheels... the fun part is going to be getting in and out of the car while it's in there... lol... this i have to see... please post pics!
------------------ Thank you F-I-E-R-O for the Sig!
i did this with a vw ghia i had and but it is not as wide as a fiero is and i am not sure if you could get a fiero in with out taking off the mirrors. i put 4x4 under the rear wheels and went 300 miles with it, had no problems. the car also had no motor or tranny.
IP: Logged
11:45 PM
Finally_Mine_86_GT Member
Posts: 4809 From: Hyde Park, New York Registered: Sep 2006
Many years ago I ddi this with an 84 Camaro I owned. Had to leave the window down and climb out that way. I blocked the tires with 2x4's (screwed them to the floor). It went from ANchorage Alaska to Seattle with no trouble (the truck was shipped on a barge). the hardest part was getting the car in and out. I used 4x12x16' boards as ramps.
A Fiero should be easy, even easier with a dock to load off of.
if it is a wood floor, just screw anchors down to the floor and strap it down. they arent going to notice a few holes in the wood i wouldnt think. thats what we did with our display on my last tour... but it wasnt a car we were hauling. it was keyosks
ABout ten years ago I was the manager of a Grocery Store in Michigan (OK assistant Manager)...
We had an outside truck Pit with a steel/Iron deck plate. We TWICE had people come do this into the back of 32 foot Ryder trucks.. Once with a Corvette and I believe the other was a Fiero! The issue with this method lies in the fact that traditional Uhauls are not high enough to use a regular pit. Plus the Ryder trucks have Drings on the floor to hook it too...
IP: Logged
09:41 AM
zetabird Member
Posts: 1303 From: nappanee, IN Registered: Dec 2006
My Dad, brothers, and I once put a '54 Chevy pickup into the back of a U-haul truck... along with almost his entire garage of spare and unused parts. It made the U-haul look like a lowrider!!! :^) But it did make a trip of 400 miles pretty painlessly... really.
IP: Logged
10:51 PM
Mike Murphy Member
Posts: 2251 From: Greencastle, Indiana 46135 Registered: Oct 2001
Anyone thought of checking with Uhaul first to see if they will allow this? Granted some people may have done this before and nothing happened but what if you get into an accident and the car does some serious damage to the van what is your liability then? Be safe not sorry. I know they are a pain on Fieros and dollys so why should they not be any different with a van & a car?
Probably why they have tow trailers. Safer and you can tie car down properly.
IP: Logged
10:59 PM
PURPLE REIGN Member
Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
Anyone thought of checking with Uhaul first to see if they will allow this? Granted some people may have done this before and nothing happened but what if you get into an accident and the car does some serious damage to the van what is your liability then? Be safe not sorry. I know they are a pain on Fieros and dollys so why should they not be any different with a van & a car?
Probably why they have tow trailers. Safer and you can tie car down properly.
This is exactly correct.
I used to work for GE Capital Fleet services which has the call center for Budget & Ryder trucks. In the details of renting and insurance, it is absolutly PROHIBITED to haul vehicles or flammables in one of these trucks.
In a for instance situation, one wise guy did just this and thought he was covered on all accounts cause he tried getting all the insurance he could. So he proceded to haul his collector 66 Mustang and at some point in the journey managed to loose control, wound up in a ditch rolled on it's side. After handling the call and sending recovery tow trucks etc. The state police were involved and also phoned in for a HAZMAT team, I said " what for ?? isn't it just full of houshold belongings ??" ( normally we send another truck to swap the load into ) Officer said " No it has a 66 Mustang on it's roof inside leaking fluids everywhere "
Needless to say when the recovery teams etc, called for a P.O. we ended the incident and told them to send the bill to the driver of the truck.
When he put the car in the truck, he was in violation of his contract and is now responsible for everything. Including the rental truck, his car, recovery bills, etc.
Sounds like a costly mistake with very costly risk.
DON'T DO IT
IP: Logged
11:42 PM
Aug 15th, 2007
Dennis LaGrua Member
Posts: 16050 From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A. Registered: May 2000
I usually rent a U Haul tandem trailer, and hitch it to my pickup that has a class 3 hitch.
------------------ 87GT 3.4 Turbo- 0-60 5.2 seconds 2006 3800SC Series III swap in progress Engine Controls, PCM goodies, re-programming & odd electronics stuff " I'M ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
IP: Logged
08:18 PM
Aug 16th, 2007
FieroMonkey Member
Posts: 3295 From: poway,CA,USA Registered: Nov 2002
i too am a bit confused as to why anyone would want to risk this. especially when U-Haul will rent you a tow dolly for about $40.00 and it has no mileage charge. I draged a Fiero 1,800 miles on a tow dolly with my 4-runner from east Texas to San Diego CA and it only cost me $40.00 a day for 2 days.
I got way better mpg than with a u-haul truck and didn't have to pay per mile like you would with a truck you rent.
i will say that it is impressive to fit a car in a truck like that though, i'm just too paranoid to take a risk like that personally.
IP: Logged
01:55 AM
PFF
System Bot
pacethis Member
Posts: 510 From: Simpsonville, SC USA Registered: Jun 2005
I used to work for GE Capital Fleet services which has the call center for Budget & Ryder trucks. In the details of renting and insurance, it is absolutly PROHIBITED to haul vehicles or flammables in one of these trucks.
In a for instance situation, one wise guy did just this and thought he was covered on all accounts cause he tried getting all the insurance he could. So he proceded to haul his collector 66 Mustang and at some point in the journey managed to loose control, wound up in a ditch rolled on it's side. After handling the call and sending recovery tow trucks etc. The state police were involved and also phoned in for a HAZMAT team, I said " what for ?? isn't it just full of houshold belongings ??" ( normally we send another truck to swap the load into ) Officer said " No it has a 66 Mustang on it's roof inside leaking fluids everywhere "
Needless to say when the recovery teams etc, called for a P.O. we ended the incident and told them to send the bill to the driver of the truck.
When he put the car in the truck, he was in violation of his contract and is now responsible for everything. Including the rental truck, his car, recovery bills, etc.
Sounds like a costly mistake with very costly risk.
DON'T DO IT
Wow, that certainly cost him. I imagine those trucks could easily be billed out at $30k-40k, plus the Mustang, etc. Are you guys that consider this really ready to put up 50k to save a couple hundred?
IP: Logged
08:24 AM
jaskispyder Member
Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
When I moved, I hauled a Grand Prix on a tandem u-haul trailer. No problem, no worries. I would do the same thing again. The trailer has all the tie downs and is made for this job. If you need something to haul the trailer, you can rent a Uhaul truck. I don't think it is worth the hassle to put the car inside the truck.
J.
IP: Logged
09:15 AM
Brian Lamberts Member
Posts: 2691 From: TUCSON AZ USA Registered: Feb 2003
i too am a bit confused as to why anyone would want to risk this. especially when U-Haul will rent you a tow dolly for about $40.00 and it has no mileage charge. I draged a Fiero 1,800 miles on a tow dolly with my 4-runner from east Texas to San Diego CA and it only cost me $40.00 a day for 2 days.
I got way better mpg than with a u-haul truck and didn't have to pay per mile like you would with a truck you rent.
i will say that it is impressive to fit a car in a truck like that though, i'm just too paranoid to take a risk like that personally.
There have been a few threads about UHaul and Fieros. They won't rent a tow dolly for transporting a Fiero. And if you rent one and are caught towing a Fiero, your contract is void and you can be prosecuted. And as you are outside the contracted use, insurance doesn't cover its use.
That's not to say that other truck rental companies would object to renting a dolly for a Fiero, tho. I don't use UHaul, I think their equipment is pretty substandard and their prices are high compared to Penske (who also prohibits transporting vehicles inside their trucks.)
Best to rent a car trailer and a truck if needed.
IP: Logged
01:13 PM
jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
There have been a few threads about UHaul and Fieros. They won't rent a tow dolly for transporting a Fiero. And if you rent one and are caught towing a Fiero, your contract is void and you can be prosecuted. And as you are outside the contracted use, insurance doesn't cover its use.
That's not to say that other truck rental companies would object to renting a dolly for a Fiero, tho. I don't use UHaul, I think their equipment is pretty substandard and their prices are high compared to Penske (who also prohibits transporting vehicles inside their trucks.)
Best to rent a car trailer and a truck if needed.
not sure what u-haul you have around your town, but I have rented dolly's for fieros 4 times. once in Dallas Texas, 3 times in Poway CA. The only time they would not let me do it is when i tried to use a hitch that was 500lbs short of the capacity they required. as soon as i changed the hitch (bought one of theirs, they rented them to me no problemo.
I am not sure why you think they would refuse to let you pull a fiero with one of their dollys. i mean, the fiero is fairly light as cars go....what else would a u-haul dolly be good for if not towing a car?
as far as their quality goes, i have never had a problem or felt unsafe with one of their dolly's, maybe i have just been lucky, who knows
[This message has been edited by FieroMonkey (edited 08-16-2007).]
IP: Logged
04:38 PM
Chicken McNizzle Member
Posts: 1310 From: Valencia, CA Registered: Jan 2004
Ive seen it done many times with smaller cars. I think you need the 22 or 26 foot truck, I think Fiero is 15-16 feet long, Guy I knew backed it to a loading dock and drove it in where he worked.
IP: Logged
10:33 AM
americasfuture2k Member
Posts: 7131 From: Edmond, Oklahoma Registered: Jan 2006
i made a post about this exact topic. a 17 ft uhual will be needed as a fiero is 13.x feet long. and 5.x feet wide. the inside is the 17 foot uhual is 14.x feet long and 7.x feet wide. perfect to fit a fiero inside. but this should only be done if u are going to transit it in the city. i was wanting to go from norfolk to oklahoma city with mine in a uhual. but that would have been too pricey compared to just shipping it.
I understand why Uhaul would have this policy in this litigation-happy age, but I don't understand the problem. If the car fits inside a truck AND you keep it from moving this isn't dangerous. I hauled household goods for some time and loaded cars into trailers on a regular basis. Nobody ever said, "Nope, fire danger." We did ask that the car have as little fuel in it as possible, but that was the only request.
Commentary only, boys and girls, not legal advice.
When I moved to Chicago from Mi 3 years ago...The moving company Happily loded my Harley into the truck and brought it down. (Although it did count as my one vehicle to move).....
I also have a good friend with a 1959 Willys Jeep...When his company moved him....They brought a flatbed tow truck...drove the jeep on the flatbed...Made it level..Then drove the Jeep into the moving truck...No issue... Other then when it got there..they couldn't get it started to drive off, so they pushed it onto the flatbed and then lowered it. (Turned out they couldn't start it, becasue none of the movers were familiar with a Manual choke!)
IP: Logged
08:31 PM
CoolBlue87GT Member
Posts: 8515 From: Punta Gorda, Florida, USA Registered: Apr 2001
Though I wouldn't do it, you can probably haul your Fiero in the Uhaul truck with no issues if you secure it correctly so it doesn't move around. You can do all kinds of things in life to include breaking the contract and get away with it the vast majority of the time. It's when things don't go as planned that it gets dicey. I'd rent a trailer that will get the entire car off the ground or rent a dolly. I've hauled many different vehicles over the last 30 years, never had a problem but, I know there's one out there waiting on me. Have fun and be careful in what ever you decide to do.
Ed, What I didn't know at the time, the Cherokee is rated for 5000 lbs - ONLY with a weight distribution hitch.
Notice in the photo with the U-haul trailer, the front end raised up, the w/d hitch would have made the Cherokee ride more level. I was very lucky on that trip to & from the Williamsburg show. I did run into heavy rain on the way back, almost lost control twice as the front wheels hydroplaned (scaring the crap out of me)
In this shot, top is w/o w/d hitch, bottom has w/d hitch on. If you use your Cherokee to tow, you must use the w/d hitch. Don't be foolish. It's worth the extra money, as the handling will improve 100%.
IP: Logged
09:01 AM
CenTexIndy Member
Posts: 3061 From: Waco, Texas, USA Registered: Mar 2006