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My first ride in a LT1 400hp Fiero by timgray
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Report this Post07-17-2007 08:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for timgrayClick Here to visit timgray's HomePageSend a Private Message to timgrayDirect Link to This Post
All I can say is, I am so glad that Horsepower is expensive. because if it wasn't there would be lots of dead teenagers. That is the first car I have ever been in that has scared me. being able to get the front wheels off the ground that easy and get the tires to let loose in 3rd gear is absolutely frightening, amazing, makes you scream and laugh all at once.

I have ridden in old 60's true muscle cars, Z06 vettes, and lots of other fast cars, none of them let you know that they were ready to let you into the uncontrollable zone that fast. it's not a push you back in the seat, it's a throw you back like you were on a rocket.

If you can ever get the chance to let one of the great guys here take you for a ride in their pride and joy, take them up on it. It will make you really think hard about saving up the cash to get Archie to bless your fiero in a way that you can never imagine until you ride in it. A 10 second quarter mile car that you can drive on the street is simply incredible.

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Report this Post07-17-2007 11:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for crzyoneSend a Private Message to crzyoneDirect Link to This Post
I had a ride in a 385whp 406 sbc fiero. It was the most insane ride I've ever had. Same thing as you, powerslides in 3rd gear at will. It was an awesome feeling. I have no idea how the Getrag survived such abuse even for a second. Not like they were skinny tires either, 265s in the rear.

SBCs that make power are a lot of fun.
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Report this Post07-17-2007 11:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SaxmanClick Here to visit Saxman's HomePageSend a Private Message to SaxmanDirect Link to This Post
LilDevil almost had to wipe off the seat of his high-horsepower SC3800 in a school parking lot a while back, so I can vouch for the fear/fun a modded Fiero can supply.

BTW - the police showed up shortly after...

Thanks for the ride, LilDevil!!
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Originally posted by timgray:

All I can say is, I am so glad that Horsepower is expensive. because if it wasn't there would be lots of dead teenagers. That is the first car I have ever been in that has scared me. being able to get the front wheels off the ground that easy and get the tires to let loose in 3rd gear is absolutely frightening, amazing, makes you scream and laugh all at once.

I have ridden in old 60's true muscle cars, Z06 vettes, and lots of other fast cars, none of them let you know that they were ready to let you into the uncontrollable zone that fast. it's not a push you back in the seat, it's a throw you back like you were on a rocket.

If you can ever get the chance to let one of the great guys here take you for a ride in their pride and joy, take them up on it. It will make you really think hard about saving up the cash to get Archie to bless your fiero in a way that you can never imagine until you ride in it. A 10 second quarter mile car that you can drive on the street is simply incredible.


Archie makes 400HP Fieros? And where are the 10 second streetable ones I haven't seen any. Anyone have any videos? What trans are they using on the 10 second runs?

Thx.

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Report this Post07-18-2007 03:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKDirect Link to This Post
Archie building a 400 HP fiero is not that hard to imagine, but that 10 second quarter mile thing ....hmmmm (?)
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Report this Post07-18-2007 05:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for LeviMSend a Private Message to LeviMDirect Link to This Post
yeah im still waiting for a ride in one of those v8 fieros =)

my fiero just died (my brother had it) and when i get back to the states ill have to wait a little while but my dad said he thinks I need a swap =)
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Report this Post07-18-2007 08:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for timgrayClick Here to visit timgray's HomePageSend a Private Message to timgrayDirect Link to This Post
Getrag 5 speed tranny. That's the strong part. he kept snapping drivers side axles easily until he had custom racing axles made designed for high torque and power. They were snapping at the casting in the spline. I do not doubt his 1/4 mile claims, he is an old time racer and hotrod guy that is well known around here.

The amazing part is the pure power at the low rpm's. 2500-4500 are incredible pull and feeling it not let up until 6500-7000 rpm for the shift is nuts.
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Report this Post07-18-2007 09:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
I think your hot rod friend is exaggerating a bit. No doubt his Fiero is fast as hell, but a 10 second quarter mile is a HARD number to run in a Fiero. Very few members on here have ever done it. A 10.99 with 400 HP is going to be stretching it some, too.

Not calling complete BS, but most people tend to embellish when bragging about their car.

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Archie makes 400HP Fieros?


Sure. You pay for a 400 HP V8, and Archie will build your 400 HP Fiero. Archie doesn't build the engines in house - he typically uses new GM crate engines. The LS2 is 400 HP bone stock, and there are plenty of options that go higher than that, both with traditional SBC and LSx engines.

Drop in an LT1 - Archie's built lots of those over the years - and put the LT4 kit with Hot Cam in it, and GM says that's good for 425 HP.
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Report this Post07-18-2007 10:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for m0sh_manSend a Private Message to m0sh_manDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by InTheLead:


Archie makes 400HP Fieros? And where are the 10 second streetable ones I haven't seen any. Anyone have any videos? What trans are they using on the 10 second runs?

Thx.


I always find it funny that people think its archie's fault if a v8 car that he put the motor in doesnt make alot of power, most people dont realize that ARCHIE DOESNT BUILD MOTORS he JUST installs them, now that being said im in no way glorifying the man, he seems to do a good job at making and installing v8 kits into fiero's, and was nice both times ive met him.

*IF* i could afford to put a ls1 or lt1 in my fiero id probably do it, but since i cant afford the kit, ive been doing other swaps.

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If you read my post I said "Fieros" not engines. Part of a 400HP Fiero would be the transmission. I had no idea a getrag could handle 400hp, I'm not a V8 swap buff I was only asking a question. I guess I took for granted auto's of some nature were being used on his swaps ( I see differently now ).
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Report this Post07-18-2007 11:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for darkhorizonSend a Private Message to darkhorizonDirect Link to This Post
IIRC it was hard for a 550whp 3800 to run 11's.
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why do the fieros seem to run high quarters for the pwr to weight?
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Report this Post07-18-2007 12:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ArchieClick Here to visit Archie's HomePageSend a Private Message to ArchieDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by timgray:

All I can say is, I am so glad that Horsepower is expensive. because if it wasn't there would be lots of dead teenagers. That is the first car I have ever been in that has scared me. being able to get the front wheels off the ground that easy and get the tires to let loose in 3rd gear is absolutely frightening, amazing, makes you scream and laugh all at once.

I have ridden in old 60's true muscle cars, Z06 vettes, and lots of other fast cars, none of them let you know that they were ready to let you into the uncontrollable zone that fast. it's not a push you back in the seat, it's a throw you back like you were on a rocket.

If you can ever get the chance to let one of the great guys here take you for a ride in their pride and joy, take them up on it. It will make you really think hard about saving up the cash to get Archie to bless your fiero in a way that you can never imagine until you ride in it. A 10 second quarter mile car that you can drive on the street is simply incredible.


I know the guy who's car you rode in & he's wild man. I haven't actually rode in his car but I'll bet it' crazy fast.

He's pretty well known in that area as having some hot cars. He's a good friend of a long lost cousin of mine who is also a hot rodder.

Maybe the 10 sec. thing could be an exaggeration but with his history, I'm not going to doubt him.

A lot of the guys here on the Forum don't realize that there are a lot of hot rod Fieros that are owned by people who couldn't care less about bragging on the Internet.

I didn't build the car nor did I build or supply the engine. I also have not made any claims as to the power output or 1/4 mile times. So give it a rest & enjoy the original post in this thread for what it is. There is no reason to give him a hard time for just wanting to share his account of his ride in the car with fellow Fiero owners. Or you could go lookup guy & race him with your car.

Thanks

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Originally posted by darkhorizon:

IIRC it was hard for a 550whp 3800 to run 11's.


Huh???
FieroX dyno'd mid 400rwhp and pulled a mid 11 with the trans eating itself on that run. He should be able to break into the 10's if he can get an auto transaxle to hold the power.
Don Kraus and Tina were both in the 11's with around 400rwhp as well.
Mine has 309rwhp and is running 12.3 seconds. If I gained another 91rwhp I would definately be running in the 11's.
With 550rwhp it should be in the mid/low 10's as long as the transaxle holds together.
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Report this Post07-18-2007 05:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GKDINCSend a Private Message to GKDINCDirect Link to This Post
Sounds like a "E" ticket ride to me.
I'd love a ride in a 400hp Fiero, but 10's in the 1/4 I'll stand and watch
If you never had a ride in a V8 car you don't know what you are missing.
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My Fiero is putting out close to 450hp and I won't break into the 10's. Even with slicks a naturally aspirated Fiero is best to run in the 11's. Although, I'm sure you can get a naturally aspirated V8 in the 10's, but it won't be very fun to drive on the street.
So, if it helps Archie sell some V8 kits, come to NJ and I'll take you for a ride in a beast of a Fiero....and if that doesn't scare you, I know of a BMW that will.
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Report this Post07-18-2007 10:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for floridafieroSend a Private Message to floridafieroDirect Link to This Post
A ride in a high powered, transversely mounted stick shift V8 fiero can be nothing more than a blast! Or atleast really really interesting...

Orief, are you running a getrag or a four speed behind your ZZ4?

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Originally posted by floridafiero:

A ride in a high powered, transversely mounted stick shift V8 fiero can be nothing more than a blast! Or atleast really really interesting...

Orief, are you running a getrag or a four speed behind your ZZ4?




I'm running the V-6 4-spd (3.65 final drive) with a SPEC III clutch.
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