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Fiero in the eyes of a mercedes owner by fierodeletre
Started on: 12-17-2006 11:12 PM
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Yet, that isn't what you said...

yet people with hundreds of thousands of dollars. are still happier with there REAL european cars.

...it may not have come out the way you intended it to, but that's clearly the way the rest of us understood your statement (and the way that it "reads"). Your original statement failed to include the "more than Fieros" part - or "more than anything..." for that matter.

Also note that I didn't say "ALL" wealthy people were unhappy (and a $100k annual income doesn't make one "wealthy" - especially in CA)... I said "a lot" - and that's a pretty well recognized fact. Money (despite all our hopes), does not automatically equal happiness.


Trevor, there are people who are happy with Fieros, and there are people that are happy with exotics. Rich people don't know if they would be happy in a Fiero, they have tunnel vision, they only look at the most expensive cars as means of enjoyment. For most of them, they couldn't give a flying **** about titanium screws or an aluminum frame or if it'll hit 200+ mph, they just see it as a piece of bling they can show off to their friends. Its an extension of their penis size, they're like "hey! look what I could write a check for! I'm uber rich, my peen is bigger than yours!". Most don't even know how to really drive their expensive pieces of bling, those cars are just ornaments to most people. I have experience in this, in the area I live, on the North side of Atlanta, I see more Ferraris/Lamborghinis and meet more people with those cars, than I see Fieros. 90% of these people I meet don't have a clue as to what engine is in the car, they just know it cost $200,000 and it looks pretty. They have never driven/owned Fieros so they don't know if that car would make them happy.

Then again, people have a right to have different things to make them happy. If the knowledge of their car being a true European thoroughbred makes them happy, more power to them.

Emc209i is right, Fieros are exotics. Go take them anywhere to get them worked on, most mechanics won't touch them and many don't know anything about the cars. They are in their own little exotic area, even though they have economy-car underpinnings. Take a Citation up to Pep Boys, and take a Fiero. Both have many of the same parts but the Fiero is different in a way. MR2's don't come close to that, they're too common. For a car to be an exotic it has to be rare. In my area my two Fieros are the only ones I ever see, and are the only ones anyone else ever sees.

True, Ferrari/Lambo replicas aren't exactly the most wanted cars in the world. IMO, I just don't like them. When I first got into Fieros I originally wanted to make a Ferrari replica, but since then I've come to see that these little cars are good in their own right. They've grown on me, now instead of building a Ferrari poser car I want to build what I think a Fiero should've been from the factory. That means all stock outside (I love the looks of a '88 GT) with upgraded drivetrain, and upgraded interior. It won't be the fastest thing on the road, and it probably won't be on the same level as a Ferrari, but a mid-engine coupe w/ 300 hp, 5-speed, and 2700 lbs under it should be a fun car to drive.

About the original topic, I've had more than a few comments on my '88 GT from the BMW/MB/Porsche owners around here. Its just about 100% positive. From what I've seen, those guys have never looked at domestics, so they don't know Fieros. They see a nice clean 1 and they immediately think its an expensive European car. The only bad comments I've ever gotten have been from the domestic guys who remember Fieros. I've never gotten anything bad from Import owners either. It seems like if a person has never seen a Fiero they think highly of it, and if they know it from when it came out they tend to have worse feelings for it.

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Hey, I'm IN Europe and I get nothing but positive comments about my Fiero. But that's actually IN SPITE of it being an American car. US cars just don't have the best reputation for style, technology and economy over here...

Where I live, there are almost more Porsches, Maseratis, Bentleys, Aston-Martins, Mercedes SL/AMGs, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, BMW M3/5/6's, Audi S3/6/8 etc. on the road than VWs and my Fiero is the real exotic. I have NEVER met another Fiero while driving my Fiero (outside of a Fiero meeting).
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This whole discussion reminds me of an article I just read in the paper. It was about the new Ferrari 599 something something something the author was very impressed by the aerodynamic "fins/devices" that protruded from beside the rear window towards the trunk and helped to direct more downforce to the rear wheels. I had to double check the pictures and re-read the paragraph because these "devices" were almost identical in shape to the windows and sides of a fastback clip on the 86+ GT's ...a 20 year old aero device froma fiero no less I thought.

The more I thought about my little fiero the more impressed I was, in its own way it is very much an exotic, from the mid engine rwd, to the lotus "inspired" 88 suspensions and even the gas tank location. A lot of thought went into these cars and from what I remember, they were originally intended to be sold as sports cars... gm for some reason didnt want it to happen and they were re-engineered mildly to be sold as econoboxes.

That being said I dont care what the car is classified as, all I know is I love it and when I start talking to people near my work place about my car all the guys know what car it is before I even spit it out. (86 GT with a 5spd 3400..which apparantly can be heard comming for a mile...funny I dont hear it in the cabin )

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Report this Post12-20-2006 05:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodeletreSend a Private Message to fierodeletreDirect Link to This Post
Thank you Luke and Yellowstone for bringing the thread back on track. It doesn't take long for a pack of trolls to drag a thread, snarling and drooling, dragging their knuckles over to the trash can.

I used to see a pretty good number of american cars in Luxembourg, at least a disproprtionately larger percentage compared to France and Belgium, but never fieros. Corvettes, classic muscle, even the occasional third gen F-body, but fieros are so rare, it makes it such a special thing to see one. It's kind of like spotting a rare bird in the wilderness. I personally think that the popularity of the fiero overseas speaks to its classic lines and design. I agree with what someone earlier posted, the car is great, and it's up to us to see the project through from where the GM bean-counters made the engineers stop.

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I want you guys to read this....

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/063128.html

Sorry to bring this back up... but.... yea
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