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NEW GM 6 speed MANUAL F40 changed for 2007 ( no M6 pattern ) by FastFieros
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Report this Post12-17-2006 12:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FastFierosClick Here to visit FastFieros's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastFierosDirect Link to This Post
Well, maybe this explains the F40 phase out. The M6 pattern is out for 2007. See new 07 pic and specs here > http://www.fastfieros.com/tech/2007_f40.htm



specs:

2007 F40 (MU9)

2007 Model Year Summary
General Motors Powertrain-Europe F40 six-speed manual car transaxle

New Detent System For Quicker And Easier Shifting
Gear Ratio Changes For Quicker Acceleration


FULL DESCRIPTIONS OF NEW OR CHANGED FEATURES

NEW DETENT SYSTEM FOR QUICKER AND EASIER SHIFTING
The addition of a ball-and-spring-type detent on the shift sleeve and detents on the shift rail assists the driver in shifting quicker. The detent raises the force required to move the shift lever which prevents excess movement of the shifter by the driver, and reduces the chance of double bump. Tension between the shift sleeve and the shift rail also prevents the sleeve from vibrating while in gear.

GEAR RATIO CHANGES FOR QUICKER ACCELERATION
To adapt the F40 to North American applications and maximize performance, 3rd through 6th gears have been changed to higher-ratio gears. The ratio for 3rd gear is now 1.37:1, and the ratio for 4th gear is no longer an overdrive, with a new ratio of 1.05:1. The 5th gear ratio is 0.85:1 and the 6th gear ratio is 0.71:1.

LOW MAINTENANCE

The MT2/MU9 uses a Castrol Burmah (BOT 0063) manual transmission fluid, and is validated as "fill-for-life". No maintenance is required for normal operation.

OVERVIEW

Originally a design developed for Fiat, Opel and Saab applications, the F40 (MT2) is a GM Powertrain - Europe six-speed manual transaxle built in Russelsheim, Germany. Its first use in a North American application was the Pontiac G6 for the 2006 model year. It is also used in some Saab 9-3 and 9-5 models.

It is a three-axis design, with first, second, fifth, and sixth gears on an output shaft behind and below the input shaft, and third and fourth gears are on an output shaft in front of and above the input shaft. Both output shaft pinions drive a helical gear with a conventional differential. The clutch is mounted on a dual-mass flywheel to dampen vibrations on whichever output shaft is idle depending upon which gear is selected.

The F40 is cast in aluminum, and weighs 124 pounds (see specs). It has been certified for up to 400 Nm of engine torque.

Triple-cone synchronizers are used on 1st and 2nd gears. These synchronizers have three friction surfaces, which increase their ability to transfer the flow of torque more smoothly from one gear to another. Synchronizers act as clutches to speed up or slow down the gearsets that are being shifted to, and greater friction area results in easier shifting for the driver. The 3rd, 4th, and reverse synchronizers are double-cone, while the 5th and 6th gear synchronizers are single-cone. All of the friction surfaces on the synchronizer rings are sintered bronze. The ratios in the 6-speed are widely spaced for versatile performance and efficiency.


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What is the shorthand version??? Is it better than the 06 version in Fiero applications, or are the 5th and 6th gears still better suited to the autobahn?
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Originally posted by jscott1:

What is the shorthand version??? Is it better than the 06 version in Fiero applications, or are the 5th and 6th gears still better suited to the autobahn?


I don't remember the 1st and 2nd gear ratios of the 06, but it says the 07 has tighter 3-6 which is what it desperately needed. at least the 2-3 shift was to tall, course, so was the first to 2nd so they really should have changed it a bit more as well...

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Report this Post12-17-2006 10:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FastFierosClick Here to visit FastFieros's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastFierosDirect Link to This Post
2006 ratios...

G6 6 Speed MT2/F40
3.77 First
2.04 second
1.32 third
.95 fourth
.76 fifth
.62 sixth
3.55 final

2007 ratios....

Gear ratios: MU9
First: 3.769
Second: 2.040
Third: 1.365
Fourth: 1.048
Fifth: 0.846
Sixth: 0.707
Reverse: 3.538
Final Drive Ratio: 3.55


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How do you know the M6 pattern is gone? The pic could just be of a Saab version.
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Originally posted by RacerX11:

How do you know the M6 pattern is gone? The pic could just be of a Saab version.


You know what.... I just did some more checking. I see I may have made an error... The MU9 is going to be in 2 configurations. The 3.5 engine is 7 degree pattern.. The 3.9 is still being offered in 2007 with the same MU9 RPO it now looks like. This would have to be the M6 pattern on this...

My title should read..... NEW GM 6 speed MANUAL F40 changed for 2007 with a M6 and 7 degree pattern

Now, I wonder if the RPO code is MU9 for the F40 attached to the 3.9 engine. It may stay the MT2. However, will the ratios change?

Darn, more checking shows there is a 3.5 M6, and 3.5 7 degree pattern.... What a waste of resources to build 2 same engines ( 3.5L ) and 2 same transmissions ( F40 ) on just to different bolt patterns.

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Originally posted by FastFieros:

2006 ratios...

G6 6 Speed MT2/F40
3.77 First
2.04 second
1.32 third
.95 fourth
.76 fifth
.62 sixth
3.55 final

2007 ratios....

Gear ratios: MU9
First: 3.769
Second: 2.040
Third: 1.365
Fourth: 1.048
Fifth: 0.846
Sixth: 0.707
Reverse: 3.538
Final Drive Ratio: 3.55


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Looks like a step in the right direction. But unless you pull the transmission yourself, how can you tell what the ratios are?
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Report this Post12-17-2006 07:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LoW_KeYSend a Private Message to LoW_KeYDirect Link to This Post
so what would the shift points be mph wise? don't have a program to plug in numbers.

I really want to keep the manual if GM does something good with FWD manuals I'll stay that route
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