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Going auto-xing, any tips? by fiero_silva
Started on: 06-07-2006 12:04 PM
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Report this Post06-07-2006 12:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero_silvaSend a Private Message to fiero_silvaDirect Link to This Post
Well, going auto-xing for my first time Sunday. Any tips, tricks ect I should do or things I should do to the car to prepare?
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Report this Post06-07-2006 12:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RandomTaskSend a Private Message to RandomTaskDirect Link to This Post
Don't hit the cones. . .

Honestly though, get there early and walk the course as many times as you possibly can. Look at it from a driving standpoint, fiind out where you wanna be in the turns to set yourself up.

Good luck!
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Report this Post06-07-2006 01:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for squisher86SESend a Private Message to squisher86SEDirect Link to This Post
For you:
Take water (to drink!), and sunblock. Wear good shoes you can stand up in for a couple of hours when you work course. Take lunch, or a snack at least.

Walk the course.

Talk to people who have done it before, they are a wellspring of information, especially if anyone else is, or has run a Fiero. They were/are very popular for autocross.

Walk the course with said experienced person, then walk it again alone.

For the car:

Something you may not expect: If you care about your paint job, wash, and wax a day or so before you go. The wax will provide a nice layer of protection that lets you take cone marks off easily. (big black marks typically, like old rubber shoesoles on linoleum) The wax is the important part. Doesn't have to be any special kind, just something. The wash just keeps you from waxing in dirt

I would add air to the tires, typical street tires have a tendency to roll under at the more typical 32-35ish psi. If it's bad enough, you can roll the tire off the rim, then you're stuck running a donut, or walking home! (if you have separate track tires on their own rims and you take both sets along, obviously there's no problem there...)

Take chalk or something you can mark the tires with, and mark the sidewall right up next to the tread and go a little onto the tread. If you are rubbing off the mark on the sidewall, you should add some more air. You want the wear to be right up to the edge of the tread. (A tire pyrometer is also good for this, but expensive)

Me, I run at 50 PSI cold. You can probably get by with 40-45 or so, depends on how stiff the sidewalls are on your tires.

1st run: HIT CONES! If you're not hitting any cones, you're not pushing any limits, which likely means you can get closer.
2nd run: Don't worry about hitting cones, but try to keep close.
3rd run: Try to clean it up, but stay tight. You should be getting the feel for it by now.
4th run: Have fun!
(some regions get 5, mine gets 6 total for the day, but the idea is the same)
Last run: BONZAI! <-- that's what I do anyway, especially if I have a decent time on one of my other attempts.
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Report this Post06-07-2006 03:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PhilphineSend a Private Message to PhilphineDirect Link to This Post
is there like a standard course? like set up the same according to some rules or something, so you could granny it all day if you want and be more serious the next time? or i guess that might take some of the fun out of it if you know what to expect already?
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Report this Post06-07-2006 04:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero_silvaSend a Private Message to fiero_silvaDirect Link to This Post
2 runs minimum, 4 runs very likely.
Course is different every time.
No other fiero owner there. Closest thing is a 300hp turbo MR2, but he isn't driving this week due to clutch issues..
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Report this Post06-07-2006 09:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SCCA FIEROSend a Private Message to SCCA FIERODirect Link to This Post
If you are running street tires, you will have to pump them up a little. If you have the stock 205/60, 515/60 15s, try 42 in the rear, 38 in front. Take some shoe polish with you and make a couple marks on the tread up the side wall about 1 inch. If you are rubbing off the polish past the shoulder thread, you will need some more air. It takes 'about' 3 psi to move that area that rubbed off 'about' a 1/4 of an inch. It's hard to find the sweet spot for street tires. Too much air and the center of the tire tread will develope a bow to it, too little and the center can push up past the shoulders and let the sidewall roll under the tire.

Walk the course.

Find the fast guys and walk closely behind them.

Walk the course again. Walk it a third time if you have time. Know where you need to go.

Slide your seat up so you can push the clutch/brake/gas pedals to the floor without having your leg straight. Sit up straight so you can see.

Hands at 9 and 3 O'clock. Shift, replace hand at 3 O'clock.

No need to spin the tires off the line or even go as soon as the flag drops. Your time doesn't start until you trip the lights. Take a deep breath, wipe your hands dry and take off rather quickly.

Look ahead to see where you need to be. Set yourself up for turns 50 feet away. Try not to brake while turning if possible. You want speed coming out of the turn, not coming into it. Remember you can slow down 3 times faster than you can speed up.

Your first run needs to be clean and on course, don't try to hit cones... you won't be too popular if you knock down all the cones and they have to stop the races to set them up. Just make sure you stay on course and have a clean run. You can't have too much fun if you're lost the entire day. See if someone will let you tag along on their first run. Only try one run with each person if you try multiples. I usually don't mind taking someone along on my first run, but not anymore.

Remember - Slow is fast. This applies inside the car more than outside. Meaning if you are jerking the wheel, pounding the brake, then the gas.... you're upsetting the car. If you are having to do this, slow down (the car) and see what happens.

Find out after your first run if you went off course. Try to find out where you went off course if you did.

That should be plenty to get you confused!

Oh, and have fun!

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