Has anyone ever moded a fiero into the six figure range? How much has gone into your fiero, My 85gt the only money I had into it was a $230 Clutch kit and a holley side scoop. my 87 coupe I have done nothing, and in my 86gt v8 I have prolly have only got $2000 into it so I am know where near six figures. -gary-
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Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I think it would have to be made out of solid gold to get six figures. Others might feel differently but there is no way I see a Fiero in that range regardless of what is done to it.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
There was a Lambo-based Fiero kitcar at Carlisle years back that was for sale for $100,000 if I remember correctly. Somehow I doubt it sold for that. It was very well done, but not sure about $100k well done. I think it was a gold / chameleon paint?
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exoticse Member
Posts: 8655 From: Orlando, Fl Registered: Jun 2003
Madcurl, how much do you have invested in your car? I can see one of your rides getting up there with investments... Rims, lambo doors, widebody, maybe after its done #15 will be?
Currently in my 84SE I have about 5,000 invested, 85Base I have about 300 invested and I haven't heard either of them as much as turn over.
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FieroGTguy Member
Posts: 3087 From: Indianapolis , IN Registered: Mar 2001
After the first significant mod/upgrade... You REALLY need not to count. No looking back, and as focus for the future of what you want is all it takes to own a higher valued Fiero. Picking up where others have given up is a good way to start though.
Greg
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Posts: 865 From: Richmond, Va Registered: Nov 2005
There was a Lambo-based Fiero kitcar at Carlisle years back that was for sale for $100,000 if I remember correctly. Somehow I doubt it sold for that. It was very well done, but not sure about $100k well done. I think it was a gold / chameleon paint?
So to get to that 100K range and by your arranging of your words: someone took a Lambo and put a Fiero kit on it?
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MDFierolvr Member
Posts: 2025 From: Great Mills, MD Registered: Mar 2004
So to get to that 100K range and by your arranging of your words: someone took a Lambo and put a Fiero kit on it?
Nope, someone modified a fiberglass replica Lambo body and put it on a Fiero. Mmm hmm... Lots of custom parts, custom paint, some type of engine swap (forget now!).. The car was sweet, but $100k... riiight I'll see if I can dig up a picture. There used to be a website with the for sale ad somewhere.
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Posts: 2350 From: Bloomington IL Registered: Jun 2000
I'm sure there are a few Fiero's with over $50g in them, but I doubt anyone has come close to putting $100g in one. Most people with that much money in their car really don’t like to talk about how much money they have invested.
I have spent over $100g on Fiero's...........but no where near that on any one car.
The designer had reworked it a couple of times. Used to be the Pirahana. (which I liked better). Had fully pneumatic level adjusting suspension, and to many other things to list. Northstar engine, etc. etc. etc.
After reworking my car for the past 10 years (2 paintjobs, looking at a 3rd engine, and countless updates & mods) - and I'm still only in the $25-30k range.
I've seen certain Fieros break the $50-60k mark (although that was based on compounding all the earlier engine swaps and mods to that point).
I can't even imagine what it would take to get to $100k on a Fiero!! (although it would add up a heck of a lot quicker if you paid someone else to do all the work, and didn't worry about waiting around for "deals").
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I still wouldn't think the pirana has 100K + invested in it... The previous owner and his friends did all the work through their design course... All the fiberglassing, etc. Sure it has an amazing turboed N*, with a whole lotta suspension goodies and 20" rims, but still not close to 100k. MAYBE if you added up all the hours they spent and included that in a seperate account called "Opportunity Cost" it would be. :P
i got probably 5-6 grand in my fiero in just parts, 100 dollar original purchase of the car. If including my labor in the car of what I would charge 50 per hour, id be close to 20K right now. lol.
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theratdude64 Member
Posts: 236 From: Ogden, UT USA Registered: Sep 2005
I know someone who has 90K invested into his Fiero but that's Canadian dollars. So we are sure getting up there. I have about 30K invested into mine and his put's mine to shame so I don't think he is streching it. He has all of the best mods and brand name products into his not to mention all the polishing and chrome that thing has.
Here's a few teaser shots
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Posts: 13798 From: Palm Bay, Florida Registered: Nov 1999
The last Fiero off the line has been on e-bay a few times. It has gone as high, in bidding, as $40,000.00. The car has never sold, as it has not meet the reserve. It is rumored that the owner wants somewhere in the neighborhood of $80,000.00 - $100,000.00 for it.
The last Fiero off the line has been on e-bay a few times. It has gone as high, in bidding, as $40,000.00. The car has never sold, as it has not meet the reserve. It is rumored that the owner wants somewhere in the neighborhood of $80,000.00 - $100,000.00 for it.
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thats insane... 80-100.... maybe for a collector... but that is never going to move at that price... however it does represent a piece of fiero history and the only version of a fiero id trade mine for... 1988 Red GT with Gold lace wheels...
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Guys take a step back here, even if you spent 100,000 on a Fiero it would still not be worth 100,000
Just because you spend XXX in mods the end result almost never adds up to what you have put into it.
I would guess, you would have to spend 200,000 on a Fiero in order to make it "WORTH" 100,000.
I don't think it is even sainly possible to spend 200,000 fixing up a car. Unless you count labor into the factor. Then maybe if you took a beat up stocker Fiero and dropped it off for a complete body off strip to the frame restoration, and then rebuilt it using nothing but the most exotic parts could you even come close to it.
Don't get me wrong, I love Fiero's I love my 85GT I have been driving it, racing it, rebuilding it for 12 years now. (5 motors and 5 different trannys) Now just starting to build up with a 4.9 in it. Will probably eventually go to an aluminum SBC when they become worth it in a price to performance standpoint.
Ok I am outta here, time for me to go and take some more rubber off my tires.
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The rule of thumb has always been, when you have a custom car, you do not factor in the price, just the additions to the car, then take off labor, since this varies from shop to shop and just the amount you paid for the parts.
Take 35% off the parts and then you have a good idea of what your car is worth. None of us can go by Blue Book nor can we go by another other publications.
Example, some may have bone stock mint cars that they want 10K for. Others have full race V8's in the back that they worked over and installed Others may have just bought a crate motor in put it in the back....
Which one is valued more? Depends on the buyer. For us the easiest way is to trade our cars, for another, or to sell it outright in hopes of someone wanting what we have done to it. Price is subjective to the next buyer.
I have over the years, built full blown street rods, Porsche cars, motorcycles, etc.
Only one car did not hold it's value, and that was my 1910 Ford panel street rod. Not because it was not perfect, but it was the motor in the REAL market that killed the price on that car.
I recieved less since the motor was a 4 banger, but that is the only thing that would fit under the hood in an truck like that. Everyone wanted to larger motor for the look, The truck looked like the old patty wagon of days gone by.
Best of luck to anyone who is selling, but we are in a market driven by, upgrades that support the car in performance, not just looks, and the LOOK of the car within 10 feet. People want a used car with new car smells. And a domestic price tage.
The true price of any car is Your Labor (local shop prices) Parts (what you paid). - 35%
What does scare people away is work performed on cars without shops, since most do not give a warranty and you are unsure of the type of work done with paperwork.
I think the race car in the first picture is worth the 100K price is you include the build, support, driver, tires, etc. Also Madcurls cars, and others that have gone over the top with custom designs.
Most kit cars that I have seen do a really good rebody, but never touch even a single dog bone to make it road worthy, they are still running the old bushings, ball joints, etc. and commanding a 25K or higher price tag. That is soooo funny. She looks good but is broken down on the side of the road.
Just a couple of thoughts......
Have fun.
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R Runner Member
Posts: 3703 From: Scottsville, KY Registered: Feb 2003
My race car is propbably only worth about 40% of what I have in it. And when I say "have in it", I do NOT count my labor. I have over 4000 hours planning, fabricating and assembling this thing. Last time I checked, it was closer to the 6 figure mark than I care to know. I decided to quit counting.
But you know what?!? It dosen't matter.
A car is only worth what someone will give you for it. And in this case, mine is not for sale, so it is worth nothing.
I also want to mention that history means everything. A car is a combination of steel, rubber, and plastic. Add some history and it is worth something. I have seen this time and time again. For example.... Factory 5 Cobra, full tube frame and suspension, FAR better than the original.... Complete for less than $100K. A real one you couldn't touch for less than $400K. Why? Because people that can afford it want the real thing.
Just my 2 cents
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It was very well done, but not sure about $100k well done. I think it was a gold / chameleon paint?
