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Real bad fuel tank leak, causes? by Kentish
Started on: 07-11-2005 09:12 AM
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Report this Post07-11-2005 09:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KentishSend a Private Message to KentishDirect Link to This Post
I have just bought my car and filled up to full for the first time and gasoline p1ssed out all over the gas station forecourt.

The car also smells very badly inside of gas especially with the window or sunroof open.

I could see the fuel pouring out from where the tank is. Any ideas where the fuel is coming out of on the tank, are they steel or plastic?

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Report this Post07-11-2005 09:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
A hole?

Sorry, but if it's leaking that badly, especially if the engine is off and the fuel pump is not running, it just about has to be physical damage to the tank. The tanks are steel.

If you replace the tank, be sure to get the right model year, since later models had a larger tank and they may not fit in the earlier models. I think 87 was the first year for the larger tank, but I'm not sure.

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Report this Post07-11-2005 09:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Indiana_resto_guySend a Private Message to Indiana_resto_guyDirect Link to This Post
Do not drive it till repaired! (Mr. Obvious!)
Jack the car up and check all the rubber fuel lines for deterioration.
Did fuel continue to leak after fueling?

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Report this Post07-11-2005 09:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KentishSend a Private Message to KentishDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Indiana_resto_guy:

Do not drive it till repaired! (Mr. Obvious!)
Jack the car up and check all the rubber fuel lines for deterioration.
Did fuel continue to leak after fueling?

I haven't had time to check underneath yet but yes it did still leak when cornering, it also stinks of gas inside the car so much that it makes your eyes sting (worse with windows open). Only had the car 5 days and this was my first drive

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Report this Post07-11-2005 10:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
Could also be your filler neck, is the car rusty? You wont know till you pull it. Do not drive the car that way, we would hate to loose you.
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Report this Post07-11-2005 04:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rodrv6Send a Private Message to Rodrv6Direct Link to This Post
Since it didn't happen unitl the tank was filled, it may be the "O" ring under the fuel pump cover on top of the tank. You're probably going to have to drop the tank to find the problem for sure.

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Report this Post07-11-2005 05:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cliffwSend a Private Message to cliffwDirect Link to This Post
Whoa....bad problem. These cars catch on fire.
Just kidding, but with a gas leak you can perpetuate the myth.
Fill it up and park it over some news paper. Look for the leakage area (wet paper). Jack up the driver's side and look again. The same thing with the passengers side.
You do need to find that leak.
For the gas fumes to get into the passenger compartment enough for eyes to water, that is a passenger compartment leak. It should not happen either. I am thinking gas filler inlet, to gas tank routing hose. The fuel filter is right behind the passenger's seat at the bottom of the enging bay, second suspect.
Keep us posted !
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Report this Post07-11-2005 05:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cliffwSend a Private Message to cliffwDirect Link to This Post

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Originally posted by Rodrv6:
Since it didn't happen unitl the tank was filled, it may be the "O" ring under the fuel pump cover on top of the tank. You're probably going to have to drop the tank to find the problem for sure.

And when you do, ................................I need back up.
And when you do, the gas guage float which makes your gas guage read inncorrect, can be cleaned up to give you a more accurate gas guage.
I am not sure.
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Report this Post07-11-2005 10:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for $Rich$Send a Private Message to $Rich$Direct Link to This Post
if you chance driving tha car and have a near by oil change place or exhaust shop that has a under ground open bay they might let you pull in and have a look under your car to save jacking it up, and crawling under
(just a thought)

there are 5 rubber lines in/on the tank

2 on the tank, and 3 on the fuel pump assembly
all are just hose clamped on with hose clamps, its possible the hose clamps could have come loose and/or the 20 year old rubber has cracked


dont smoke near the car

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Report this Post07-12-2005 11:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KentishSend a Private Message to KentishDirect Link to This Post
Thanks all, I'll keep you posted.
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Report this Post07-12-2005 01:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 86fieroEarlSend a Private Message to 86fieroEarlDirect Link to This Post
make sure you get the straps as well when getting a replacement gas tank, I remember those straps being heck to find.
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Report this Post07-12-2005 07:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for linenoiseClick Here to visit linenoise's HomePageSend a Private Message to linenoiseDirect Link to This Post
My Car does this also If I don't allow for expansion room.
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Report this Post07-12-2005 09:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
My guess- filler neck coupling hose or filler neck is leaking. DO NOT drive this Fiero until you find the gasoline leak. The hot CAT is not that far from the gasoline supply. A few drops on a hot CAT will ignite the gas and cause a fire. PLay it safe as you only have one life.

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Report this Post07-21-2005 07:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KentishSend a Private Message to KentishDirect Link to This Post
Found the problem now.

Dropped the fuel tank down and found .....hang on let me first explain something else.

My car doesn't have the original Fiero centre console and shift surround, it was replaced by previous owner with a black leather panel without ashtrays.

So, the tank is out and we discover that this previous owner has drilled right through the tunnel and into the tank to fix the console in place

I guess he's lucky he didn't blow himself up!

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Report this Post07-21-2005 08:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Indiana_resto_guySend a Private Message to Indiana_resto_guyDirect Link to This Post
Must be why he sold it, you think?
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Report this Post07-21-2005 11:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Kentish:
...So, the tank is out and we discover that this previous owner has drilled right through the tunnel and into the tank to fix the console in place...

Brilliant.

But I've even seen and heard of professional installers doing the same thing, in various other vehicles. (Gas tanks. Heater cores. Automatic transmissions. )

Glad you found it.

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Report this Post07-21-2005 12:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KentishSend a Private Message to KentishDirect Link to This Post
Thanks guys, just need to sort a few more bits now....

Needs a new n/s steering rack gaiter
Indicators have an earthing fault
Fog light warning not working
All brake callipers are seized and brakes not functioning, needs new pads all round
Handbrake not working, needs new cables
Fuel line resting on exhaust
Oil pump gasket is leaking
Trunk release switch requires replacing
IAC faulty or possible EGR fault or induction leak

Still, it's only week # 3 of V6 ownership but I'll work through these and should have a nice car eventually

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Report this Post07-25-2005 04:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KentishSend a Private Message to KentishDirect Link to This Post
Thank for that CCR, I'll get the shop who are doing the repairs to check out the condition of all the hoses
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