All right, my OEM coffee can has a rust hole in it. I looks like some kind of Juicy Juice can, 7" tall, 4 1/4" dia. I can't believe that Pontiac would put something this lame in the engine compartment. (no 2.5 jokes please) Have they no shame at all?
Before I go to the Piggly Wiggly and start measuring the Prune Juice containers, has somebody found a good (better) looking substitute? (like an empty fire extinguisher can)
Ideas please!
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Monkeyman Member
Posts: 15833 From: N. Wilkesboro, NC, USA Registered: Nov 1999
Coffee can. Just like you said. Worked fine for me. I prefer Folgers, but even a store brand/generic can will probably work. It just won't taste as good.
The Fierostore is suppose to be making a new one sometime.... Its in ther R&D Center in the "In manufacturing" stage. I repaired mine with some JB Weld until i either find a new one in the yard or they come out with that one. The only problem is how long is it gonna take....
Jason
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Gordo Member
Posts: 2981 From: East Guilford, NY, USA Registered: Mar 2002
looks like it will work. I have a can off a ford F150 that looks identical riges and all it may be rusted threw but ill drop it off if you want it the bottom is excelnt.
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agrabo85fiero Member
Posts: 562 From: Gilbertsville, New York/FT Riley Kansas Registered: Mar 2005
You gotta be kidding? A chromed coffe can for $150? Who would... You know, suddenly I want one. Where's my credit card? I wonder if they do gold electroplating?
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watts Member
Posts: 3256 From: Coaldale, AB, Canada Registered: Aug 2001
Originally posted by SCCA FIERO: I moved my vacuum canister to the left rear well, behind the tire. Out of site and frees up some space (had to for the turbo).
Great idea! I've been adding the cruise bits to my turbo car, and it's starting to get DAMN crowded over there!
And if you can't make it pretty... hide it!
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avengador1 Member
Posts: 35468 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
Gordo, if you are going to use that bean can make sure you get a can opener that cuts the bead on the side. This will make it easier to reaseal the can after emptying it's contents. You can then braze it.
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Dennis LaGrua Member
Posts: 15827 From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A. Registered: May 2000
If you buy a can filled with juice, then you can just drill the proper size holes for hose nipples and solder them in place. With Bakes Beans you'll need to delid the can and solder it back together again.
Gordo, if you are going to use that bean can make sure you get a can opener that cuts the bead on the side. This will make it easier to reaseal the can after emptying it's contents. You can then braze it.
I figured that I could use a hole saw on the end and re-mount the plastic hardware from the original with epoxy. The main problem is coming up with a suitable label.
Still looking for an alternative. Possibly an aluminum fire extinguisher housing.
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Gordo Member
Posts: 2981 From: East Guilford, NY, USA Registered: Mar 2002
i used that bean can. i think it was the 55oz but not sure. i cut the top off of the original can and rtv'd and riveted it to the new can. its held up for 3 years so far.
The Fierostore is suppose to be making a new one sometime.... Its in ther R&D Center in the "In manufacturing" stage. I repaired mine with some JB Weld until i either find a new one in the yard or they come out with that one. The only problem is how long is it gonna take....
Jason
I have the prototypes. Its taking longer than expected because this first batch had a tendancy to collapse in 'non-stock' applications. They had to remake them all with a stronger can...
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Rickker Member
Posts: 268 From: Kingston, ON Canada Registered: Feb 2002
Any of the plastic ball type ones will work and you'll never have to worry about rust again. You can get them off more junk cars than you can count. You can get them new thru MotorMite. One about the size of a grapefruit will work with most cruise systems.
The cruise doesn't need a very big reserve.
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Virtually all GMs used the exact same vacuum can. It's easy to find them in the wreckers - I am using one that 1/2 the stock length (same diameter). Many have also used the plastic round ones used on newer GMs without any problems.
FWIW, we used the Motormite 47076 vacuum tank on the Finale. It's a smaller sphere, made of plastic, with mounting lugs. It's snuggled up underneath the cruise unit to the driver's side and you can't even see it. Won't ever rust out either. I don't remember what it cost, but I don't recall it being very much.
I just got a small plastic one off a Buick I think. Camarro had a bigger ball. Cavaliers had a big sausage sized stretched ball. A little smaller than the Camaro. Most are mounted under the battery inside the fender. However they only have 1 vacume port. Anyone know how to plumb it with only 1?
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Posts: 1141 From: Danville, IL Registered: Oct 2000
I just got a small plastic one off a Buick I think. Camarro had a bigger ball. Cavaliers had a big sausage sized stretched ball. A little smaller than the Camaro. Most are mounted under the battery inside the fender. However they only have 1 vacume port. Anyone know how to plumb it with only 1?
I put one of these in the ZR-2. When I pulled the sphere from the donor, I also got the hoses going to it. On the supply hose you will find a small round check valve at the intake manifold end and a "T" fitting somewhere between the valve and the tank.
Install the "T" fitting between the tank and the check valve, hook the other end of the check valve to the vacuum supply line, (Make sure you install the valve in the same direction an it originally was.) Use the other end of the "T" and plumb it into the cruise servo. Mount the ball, and you're good to go!
Max
Edited to make sense.... LOL
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i've got a V8 can that i'm making Polly drain as i type. i love the fierofreak00 trick. my 85 V6 gets less baths, than what my V8 car does. but i still want the stock look.
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Gordo Member
Posts: 2981 From: East Guilford, NY, USA Registered: Mar 2002
Wow, can't believe that this thread got resurrected!
I took the can & cut a large hole in the top using a hole saw and my drill press. It was not easy to do and I had to be careful because it left a very sharp edge. Next, I removed the plastic valves from the old can and fastened them to the new one in a bed of epoxy. So far, it looks pretty good and fits exactly like the oem can. I won’t be able to road test it until Spring.
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30+mpg Member
Posts: 4061 From: Russellville, AR Registered: Feb 2002
actually many of the ball type have two fittings if you look around. They would hook up just like the 2 port metal can one.
A single port ball would require an additional check valve or the system will not work properly. This is the sort shown above. The 2 port ball would not need an external check valve.