Well, after months of waiting and searching for rims for my 88GT, Vanessa, (see thread in signature), I finally found some rims for my 88 that will fit and allow me to put on some redictulously wide tires.

I was going to wait until the tires came and I put it all on the car...but that will be later this week and I just couldn't wait. Saturday, I am taking them to have the hub bore enlarged to 57.1mm, and then they should fit.

The fronts are 16X7 48mm offset, I don't think they will clear on stock 88s, but I have tubular lower control arms. They weigh 13.5 lbs each!

The rears were a little harder. I had to install longer studs and have custom 10mm thick spacers made (replicates hub for centering) that I designed in solid edge. The rears are 17X8.5" with a 48mm offset. I calculate a clearance of 5.5mm to the spindle.

The tires will be Falken Ziex ZE-512 W-Rated tires, with 205/50-16 front and 255/40-17 rear. They are going to be incredibly better than the accursed 195/65-15 snow tires I have on there now.

FieroOmar has been pushing Rota rims for months, but as far as I know, I am the only member of the forum to have Rota rims, let alone the 16X7/17X8.5 combo seen here!

I got these from www.18racing.com you can order a set by e-mailing sales@18racing.com I got them cheaper because I was waiting since January for a size that never came (16X8), but an identical set would be ~$650 shipped. That is not a quoted price, it is not necessarily how much they would cost, i have no idea how much they would be, you would have to e-mail and ask for a quote. Make sure you talk to Jessica and tell her that Christian referred you.

I have made several other mods recently, and after I get these rims on, I will post overall pics of my car.

Now, on with the pics!

The price is wrong, ***** !

So sweet!

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Thanks Aus!
More info at: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/043357.html

[This message has been edited by Bigfieroman (edited 06-09-2005).]

Nice shoes!

Very Nice!

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86 Fiero SE, soon to be a V8 Fastback
87 Trans Am 455 Project
97 Camaro SS #359 (daily driver)

Those will look really nice and the rears will be nice and wide. The only thing I would suggest is going for a wider front tire if you can. I have 205s on my wheels and they're much too skinny even for the front in my opinion.

they are nice rims, especially for the money, though not as good quality as the real rims they are replicated from....i have contemplaited going with the 17" in 8 inches wide Rotas....the offset is made specifically for Subaru (quite high).
i WISH they made a deepdish rear though

Rotas are mainly known to import drivers, as they are replicas of Spoon rims (japanese co.) and RegaMaster rims as well, both of which are a higher quality version, but MUCH more pricey.

google it up

That plant needs alittle watering those leaves are a little brown

Oh nice shoes

quote Originally posted by Bigfieroman: Well, after months of waiting and searching for rims for my 88GT, Vanessa, (see thread in signature), I finally found some rims for my 88 that will fit and allow me to put on some redictulously wide tires. I was going to wait until the tires came and I put it all on the car...but that will be later this week and I just couldn't wait. Saturday, I am taking them to have the hub bore enlarged to 57.1mm, and then they should fit. The fronts are 16X7 48mm offset, I don't think they will clear on stock 88s, but I have tubular lower control arms. They weigh 13.5 lbs each! The rears were a little harder. I had to install longer studs and have custom 10mm thick spacers made (replicates hub for centering) that I designed in solid edge. The rears are 17X8.5" with a 48mm offset. I calculate a clearance of 5.5mm to the spindle. The tires will be Falken Ziex ZE-512 W-Rated tires, with 205/50-16 front and 255/40-17 rear. They are going to be incredibly better than the accursed 195/65-15 snow tires I have on there now. FieroOmar has been pushing Rota rims for months, but as far as I know, I am the only member of the forum to have Rota rims, let alone the 16X7/17X8.5 combo seen here! I got these from www.18racing.com you can order a set by e-mailing sales@18racing.com I got them cheaper because I was waiting since January for a size that never came (16X8), but an identical set would be ~$650 shipped. That is not a quoted price, it is not necessarily how much they would cost, i have no idea how much they would be, you would have to e-mail and ask for a quote. Make sure you talk to Jessica and tell her that Christian referred you. [portions of text and photos edited out]!

IMHO, the Slipstream wheel with its 5 spoke design is a natural for the Fiero. I think they look spectacular with the polished lip. Although I have not been "pushing" these wheels in the sense that I am marketing them, I do think they are a particularly nice looking wheel at a very good price. My biggest concern has been with the fairly high positive offset. Wheel spacers should correct that problem, but will add some additional weight (albeit minor).

Sources: other than the one listed, these wheels may be purchased at Subydude.com.
See: http://subydude.com/osc/product_info.php?cPath=21_158&products_id=261&osCsid=1bd3114d5571e6ac912d15bbb37c91a5

Regarding the tires, the front tires may look a little puny when compared to the rear. You might consider the 225-50-16 which is effectively the same diameter as the 255-40-17. Moreover, based on my cursory look at Falken's site, the GRB FK-451 might be a better tire for you (offers better grip) unless you need an all season tire.

Maybe you can settle a question regarding these rims before you have the tires mounted. How much do the 17x8.5 rims weigh. I estimated about 20 lbs. (which is not bad for the size). Subydude said 22 lbs., but it wasn't clear whether they were including the shipping carton.

Very nice looking wheels. I'm anxious to see the photos of the car with the new wheels and tires.

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FierOmar

They were 22lbs including the shipping carton according to ups.

I am using the 205 tires in front on purpose to balance the tire ground pressures. Ask Will about it.

I am going with the 512s because they have a 30k mileage warranty, and I know these things are going to wear fast with no rotationability.

I am going to weigh the fronts and rears before mounting, but the rears are considerably heavier than the front.

I was just joking with the "Pushing" comment, I have just looked through the archives and seen you mention them about 10 times, and noone ever buys them. I cannot wait to see them on my car!

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Put them on the car!!! Then Pics!

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RickN
White 88GT 5spd
White 85GT Auto

whoa,

Sweet A$$! lol

they look nice dude, i'm just glad we don't have to remove any other major parts to put them on...

(thinks back)
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(ground effects, side scoops, seats, L panels, swaybars, brake parts, ect.)

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Hutch, aren't you due for a new sig pic? Maybe one of the broken up stripped-out frame that was the 86SE in your sig? (owned)

[This message has been edited by Bigfieroman (edited 06-09-2005).]

Yes!! I love those rims. They're light and look great. I was going to get these for my car but couldn't find a vendor that had them in the right offsets and sizes in our bolt pattern; apparently you figured thatou! Any chance you could post pics of the front and rear clearance? I have stock lower control arms.. but that rim only goes in an inch more with that offset, I would think there's that much clearance in the stock setup? Otherwise not a big deal to get 17x7 front.
Let us know if the center caps fit once they're on the car..
Also, can the shop you had the spacers made at make more sets for the rest of us 88 owners that want to push our rear wheels out some?

Hi all,

They look awesome......!

Looking good! Maybe now your brakes will work right

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black 85 GT on the road soon... REAL soon....

you are so getting a negitive......

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[This message has been edited by fierohutch (edited 06-09-2005).]

Carolinajoe is right. Show some mercy on that poor Dracena and give it some water.

I sure hope "The Price was Right!!", get it is was a joke, you know the price is right ? yyyeeeeaaaa...

[This message has been edited by FieroWannaBe (edited 06-09-2005).]

The fronts weighed in at 13.9 lbs and the rears were 21.1 lbs.

HINT: first pic, then youl get the joke.

Pretty sweet setup with the tv on a moniter, i have a rca + s-video converter for a VGA moniter that lets me see tv on my moniter, picture is so much nicer that way isn't it?, i use it for my XBOX and VCR. instant tv for 5bucks on ebay.

[This message has been edited by FieroWannaBe (edited 06-09-2005).]

Nice rims. They will look great.

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Good stuff!

Must see pics of them on the car... almost bought a similar set. Wondering how they look.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findWheelDetail.do?mk= &yr=1985&wd=16&pc=70262&rw=7&bp=5-100&vid=004289

Opted, instead, to buy a turbo... favoring performance over looks. I can make it look pretty for the rest of my life...

-Shawn

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HOLY FACK those puppies are WIDE!

nice choice though, should look awsome

-Phil

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"Wanna join a...punk band....shave your head and get a tattoo. Don't need intelligence just attitude!"

I like those. Good choice. Definatly post pics with the car!

Ok guys, I am getting them machined on saturday. I should also be getting the wheels put on on saturday. The pics requested will be posted late sunday prolly, because I am going to re-paint the calipers, bleed the brakes, and re-route the brake lines then. I will take pics of:

15" 87GT rims over the 12" corvette rotors
spacers
longer lugs in the rear
front and rear clearances
brake line routing
side shot of the car with the 87GT rims
side shot of the car with new rims

Steven,

The spacers I designed cost me $35 each, made out of 6061 T-6 aluminum plate stock. The machine shop guy specifically told me that additional spacers were going to be more expensive, because he underestimated the difficulty. If I were to start selling them, they would be $45-$50 each at my cost, and tack on a little profit and shipping and everyone would be looking at $65-$70 each. That is above a fair price. I am sorry, but I am not going to release my design for liability reasons. I know there is some dumbass out there who would make them, put them on without lengthening the lugs, and sue me when he loses a wheel at 80mph and slams into a tree. They are basically no different from the stock setup (strengthwise) when you use longer lugs, but I know someone would sue me for something.

I am sure the centercaps will fit. They have their own groove to snap into on the wheels, and they have plenty of clearance underneath for the axles in the back. They also have plenty of clearance to the lugnuts.

[This message has been edited by Bigfieroman (edited 06-10-2005).]

look awesome, Congrats on the new wheels.

quote Originally posted by Bigfieroman: The fronts weighed in at 13.9 lbs and the rears were 21.1 lbs.

Just about what I expected. While the 21.1 lbs. might sound heavy, one h-as to remember that this is a 17x8.5" rim. Yes, lighter wheels are available, but it would be hard to find a lighter wheel that beats the price on the Rota wheels. By comparison, according to my scale (which I believe to be reasonably accurate, but which has never been certified by Dept. of Agriculture) the 16x7" Beretta GTZ wheel weighs close to 20 lbs. My Team Dynamics Pro Race 1 wheels weigh 16 lbs. for the 17x7 front and 20 lbs. for the 17x8 rear wheels. Rota has had the Slipstream out for 3 - 4 years, but until recently, they were offered only in 15x6.5", 15x7", and 16x7", and offsets were limited to 40mm or 48mm. The Pro Race 1 is available in multiple offsets from 25 - 45mm.

In any event, posting pictures of your car with these wheels just may start a trend.

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FierOmar

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Got them installed! Less than 1/4th" to the strut...whew, that was a close one! I got the centers bored out this afternoon, went to the tire shop, and had the new tires and wheels installed. I am going to take some better pics tomorrow and start a new thread. I am also going to re-paint the calipers and bleed the brakes.

FieroOmar, your dream has come true!

So wide!

I am going to return the tires and get another brand on monday. They are nice, and have good grip, but they have some of the worst (soft) sidewalls I have ever felt in a tire. The car feels downright dangerous when cornering hard, and pumping them up to the max pressure of 51PSI helped, but not enough. I am supremely disappointed.

Enjoy the pics!

Very nice.

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88GT 3.4SC
88GT T-TOP
87GT VERT (build in progress)

Clean and Armorall your black plastic wheel wells. You will be amazed at how good it looks with your new wheels.

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87 Fiero SE

Look real good!

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RickN
White 88GT 5spd
White 85GT Auto

quote Originally posted by Bigfieroman: The fronts are 16X7 48mm offset, the rears are 17X8.5" with a 48mm offset. So sweet!

Super Wow. Get some daytime pics up!

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John DuRette
Custom 85 ; 87 Coupe in the driveway. "Kinda makes you nostalgic for a Members Only jacket"

As requested.

Nice setup! Scoops really go good too.

I'd say is crank down the ride height a bit but I know those roads... are brutal.

Thanks a lot for the compliments guys. It took over 80 hours of research to determine the fit and sizes needed for the tires. In the end, I calculated roughly 5.5mm of clearance to the strut upright, and from what I can tell, I have about 7mm. All without ever touching or measuring from a 17" wheel.

I am glad you guys like them...I definately do.

They look GREAT Christian !!!

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VP, Classic Fiero Owners Group - International
www.cfogi.org

did it solve the brake fade problem? they look great!

It seems to have.

Are those the WCF 12" brakes? How much clearance up front to the inside of the rim? Just wondering how small of rims one can go with those brakes..

Steven:

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/052370.html