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NOS Gold Plated (metal) "FIERO" Front Fascia Emblem (rare?) Info Needed.

Hello all,
Does anyone here have any info on the emblem I have in the url or photos seen below?
I have never seen a gold plated, metal backed, gold inlayed NOS front bumper cover emblem before!
This thing is heavy compared to the plastic usual emblems I have on hand.

This is an original NOS GM nos part (never installed) and it has be baffled because I can't find out anything about it so far!

I just talked with a gentleman from GM that was involved on some of the Fiero's pre-production stages, he said he has not ever seen a metal backed gold plated emblem make it into production (from 1984 thru 1987)

It has a metal backing unit that is gold plated (not the normal plastic backing unit) The color of the emblems Foil inlay of the Pegasus symbol is gold.
The part number on the back does not come up in any Fiero parts books I have. DLA-14204

I was under the assumption that the only metal front bumper cover emblem that had a metal backing unit was with the enamel inlayed Indy Fiero front fascia emblem! This emblem has me at a loss right now. I would like to find out what application this gold plated metal backed nos front cover emblem was for before I send it off to ebay for sale. I have only seen a few gold colored plastic emblems that came on a few gold colored fieros in 1984.

If you have any info on application, or if this was a promotional type emblem, or maybe for a model that did not make it into production please let me know ASAP
Please email fierodave@charter.net with any info you might have.
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You sure its not a belt buckle? Give you $20 for it
Nice find!
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I have the exact same emblem that I bought off ebay for about $10. It has the gold backing and even the same "14204" number. I bought it to replace my old 87SE's missing emblem, but the studs behind it were much bigger (like yours) than the 87SE's hole. I ended up selling the SE, and have the emblem on my table here as an ornament.
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looks like an 84 fiero emblem to me

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Sorry Dave,

I used to have one that was on my GT when I bought it. I took it off and gave it to SOAPER.

Victor Aravjo was the original owner of my car. I'll see if I can locate him and ask about it.

edit: After reading above, I looked at one of my old pictures of my 84 SE, and it had a gold one on it. First year thing?

Earl

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yep i think i had a couple 84's and they all had that emblem, mine were all tan interior too, wonder if that makes a difference, two black fiero's and one red one.

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I just went out to my 84 parts car and what do you know I already have one Looks like it was an 84 thing.
Mine dosent look as good
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84's also had fiberglass wind deflectors for the sunroofs vs the later years has a textured plastic -

the fiberglass ones are nice and can be painted to match the car

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My 85 SE has a gold badge on the nose with grey interior. I've had the car since new.
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The 84 I had, had the same gold emblem on the front with the gold metal backing. I think all 84s and 85s had them, my 86 SE has a silver one.
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Yup - it looks good on a certain Green car too (I picked mine up for about $10 last spring from "The Prezzz")

BTW - the "locator pin" is opposite from later years (I had to clip it off to make it fit my '87).

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That emblem is used on all 84's and 85's (except the 85 GT), and all 86 coupes (not including the SE or GT).

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Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:

Yup - it looks good on a certain Green car too (I picked mine up for about $10 last spring from "The Prezzz")

Hey, looks like a picture of my front bumper!

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Originally posted by pollock:

Hey, looks like a picture of my front bumper!

**Runs Home to Check Garage** ...nope - that' definitely from my car

BTW - both of the pics I posted are from the same car... it's amazing how different it looks under different lighting conditions!

So FieroDave - are you selling these? And if so, for how much? I wouldn't mind have a spare or two if the price is right!

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Wow, that's sharp.

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Something none of you have clarified...

There was a METAL version and a PLASTIC version of this emblem...

The metal versions are rumored to be pure 24K gold and worth $500 in weight..... LOL, ok, just kidding on the pure gold thing... There is however metal and plastic of these.

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Kinda looks like mine, but a little different - probably because mine looks really old

Pretty sure mine is plastic, car # 24,421if it it's an early/late thing...

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Originally posted by Kohburn:

looks like an 84 fiero emblem to me

it sort of looks like you emblem has a silver border?

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Originally posted by Earl-R:

Sorry Dave,

I used to have one that was on my GT when I bought it. I took it off and gave it to SOAPER.

Victor Aravjo was the original owner of my car. I'll see if I can locate him and ask about it.

edit: After reading above, I looked at one of my old pictures of my 84 SE, and it had a gold one on it. First year thing?

Earl

Earl hello,
Why would you be sorry? I was only looking for info :~)

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Originally posted by MinnGreenGT:

Yup - it looks good on a certain Green car too (I picked mine up for about $10 last spring from "The Prezzz")

BTW - the "locator pin" is opposite from later years (I had to clip it off to make it fit my '87).


Sure does look good on dat der green car :~)

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Originally posted by FastFieros:

Something none of you have clarified...

There was a METAL version and a PLASTIC version of this emblem...

The metal versions are rumored to be pure 24K gold and worth $500 in weight..... LOL, ok, just kidding on the pure gold thing... There is however metal and plastic of these.

Loyde

I was thinking about that too... I know for certain that mine is metal (although the gold is only "skin deep") because I had to cut the locator pin off to fit it to my GT!

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I will run out and check my new ones I have....
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quote
Originally posted by FastFieros:

Something none of you have clarified...

There was a METAL version and a PLASTIC version of this emblem...

The metal versions are rumored to be pure 24K gold and worth $500 in weight..... LOL, ok, just kidding on the pure gold thing... There is however metal and plastic of these.

Loyde

And this explains my confusion! "There was a METAL version and a PLASTIC version of this emblem..."

I must have only had the plastic ones until I found this lot of them on a pallet today lol
For a second I thought i hit the jack pot, "The metal versions are rumored to be pure 24K gold and worth $500 in weight..."

If it was true, I would be about $30,000.00 to the good side on these emblems lol


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Well, now I don't feel bad at all!
I just received an email From Ed Parks (http://thefierofactory.com/)
Mr. Parks stated he also had never seen or heard of a emblem like this before either.
He also has a gold plated one with the metal backing unit, and thought it was an aftermarket item, or an item a customer may have made.
He said, "I never would have thought it was an original GM part"
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I just got some interesting info:
Could someone measure and post the height X Width of a gold emblem that they have on a 84-85 coupe.
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Roughly 2 and 3/8" Long and 1.75" wide on my 84 SE, or did you actually want a base-model coupe?

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Originally posted by fierodave:


And this explains my confusion! "There was a METAL version and a PLASTIC version of this emblem..."

I must have only had the plastic ones until I found this lot of them on a pallet today lol
For a second I thought i hit the jack pot, "The metal versions are rumored to be pure 24K gold and worth $500 in weight..."

If it was true, I would be about $30,000.00 to the good side on these emblems lol


Thanks loyde

For the first time in my life I'm confused, are you saying that this emblem http://www.fierodave.com/jpgs/emblems%20016.jpg
is worth 500.00 ? I have 3 new ones in the boxes.

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Originally posted by fieroparts.com:


For the first time in my life I'm confused, are you saying that this emblem http://www.fierodave.com/jpgs/emblems%20016.jpg
is worth 500.00 ? I have 3 new ones in the boxes.


Tim hello,
Noooooooooooo lol Loyde stated (as a joke) that they were worth $5oo.oo in gold weight, I then said i thought for a second i hit the jack pot because if they were
worth $500.00 in gold weight I would have over $30,000.00 $ worth of gold weight then. sorry for the confusion. that would be a good payday lol
What part number do you have on the box?
The ones I have all came in one bulk pack bag from GM
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THe early cars used metal plates (such as the 84). They later switched to plastic cause they were cheaper to produce and also, due to the urethane bumpers, if you hit something lightly, the bumper would flex but the emblem would bend. The bumper would bounce back to normal shape but you would have bent/ruined emblem. I know it doesn't justify switching, but these are rumors I heard about years ago.
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my center fell out of mine before i baugt the car and the backing is gold color even under the center.
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my center fell out of mine before i baught the car, and the backing is gold color even under the center.

it would be nice if they were solid gold. i could think of a few things i could do with $500

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It is just a 1984/1985 emblem in good condition. I have 2 of them and one came stock on my 85 2M6.

The first couple years they were all metal and gold from the factory on any non GT or pace car. These are the the easiest ones to fine in a junk yard.

I will dig out the box but I have the part# on it.

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I've never seen a plastic emblem backing before. I checked all the NOS emblems I have, all are metal, with a plastic insert.

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Mine is an 86SE and it has that emblem...

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Originally posted by 007DOUG:

That emblem is used on all 84's and 85's (except the 85 GT), and all 86 coupes (not including the SE or GT).

Nope, just '84 and '85 got the gold emblem. In '86 they went to the silver plastic one.

I've got a gold one on my '86 because it was available and the original was completely gone. Can't seem to find the plastic backing piece for the silver one anywhere...

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Originally posted by 007DOUG:

I've never seen a plastic emblem backing before. I checked all the NOS emblems I have, all are metal, with a plastic insert.

Doug, way to funny, I had all plastic early emblems and you have all metal ones lol

I talked with another GM dude this afternoon that said he believed the original intention was to use this Gold Plated Metal Backed Emblem for the early model year Fiero, It seems the GM bean counters may have axed the Gold plated metal emblems in favor of a cheaper plastic emblem that was sourced out to a different vendor to save some money! Rumor is the switch to a cheaper plastic emblem may have saved GM $6.00 per car.

Don't sound like a lot of money, but with 213, 211 fieros's produced 1984 & 85 (less the GT's and the Indy) your looking at an estimated 185,000 units produced that may have used this style emblem.
At $6.00 a unit, GM may have saved a million bucks + change.

No wonder these emblems were discontinued lol

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The part# for the Gold 84-85 emblem is 10030186.

This is the only emblem used on 84-85 non GT or Pace cars and all were gold with metal backings.

The plastic silver ones were used 86-88 on all non GT applications.

Now if someone has an 84-85 with an original plastic one I would love to see a picture of it.

As I have found the gold metal ones are the least rare and have been easiest ones for me to find.

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