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Shift knob weight makes a difference? by 88gtNewb
Started on: 11-29-2004 03:17 AM
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Report this Post11-29-2004 03:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 88gtNewbClick Here to visit 88gtNewb's HomePageSend a Private Message to 88gtNewbDirect Link to This Post
My moms Protoge has always felt like it shifted very smooth, and I noticed when I took the shift knob off it was heavy! Weighed in at about 400g or about 1 lb.

The fiero shift knob seems much lighter, and it doesn't shift nearly as smoothly, kind of clunky. The threads are not the same so I couldn't test the heavy knob on my shifter, but I was wondering if anyone had noticed a difference in the feel of the shifter with a change in knob weight.

I know the feel is much more than just the shifter knob, but if anyone has found it to make some difference I'm going to get a heavy one to test out.

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Report this Post11-29-2004 03:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback 86Send a Private Message to Fastback 86Direct Link to This Post
I have a billit aluminum shift knob thats almost the size of a baseball, and the shifting is still clunky. I know aluminum is light, but its definately heavier than the golf ball (I'm not kidding) that used to be on there. With more weight on the end of the shifter, you get more mass moving when you pivot the lever (the shifter). More weight moving means more force on the lever, which is basically like pushing the lever harder. In this case, the weight does it so you don't have to. From my experience, I can tell you that it is not a significant difference. Its marginally less clunky, but nothing to write home about. Maybe if it was a cast iron knob, it would be different. Realize, though, that metal transfers energy well. If you've got a big heavy shift knob on there thats throwing the shifter back and forth, all that energy from the lever slamming around is being transferred into the lever, the shifter assembly, through the cables, and to the transmission. Same thing as slamming through the gears, but again the weight's doing it so you don't have to. Probably not a good idea.
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Report this Post11-29-2004 01:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NorthFloridaFieroSend a Private Message to NorthFloridaFieroDirect Link to This Post
I got one off ebay with the little fiero decal on the top. Its a little heavier and is alot easier to shift since my select cable is going out
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if your sifter and cables are lubed and moving well the other 95% of shifting action is inside the trans - that determines clunkyness or smoothness
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Report this Post11-29-2004 02:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for carbonSend a Private Message to carbonDirect Link to This Post
The weight of the shift knob will make a difference in shift quality... A heavier knob will dampen the notchy feeling in the shifter more than a lighter one. I noticed this when I put a different shifter in my Stratus... shifted like butter with the stock but the new aftermarket knob was lighter and made it feel harder to shift... its all about momentum

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Report this Post11-29-2004 02:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Maybe mine doesn't apply but, I replaced my stock auto shifter with a after-market one and the new one weight was less. That also was the same with the sterring wheel. The sterring wheel felt easier to turn.
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Report this Post11-29-2004 02:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Black-Azz-GTSend a Private Message to Black-Azz-GTDirect Link to This Post
The extra weight will make your car slower.
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Report this Post11-29-2004 04:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KentoSend a Private Message to KentoDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by madcurl:

Maybe mine doesn't apply but, I replaced my stock auto shifter with a after-market one and the new one weight was less. That also was the same with the sterring wheel. The sterring wheel felt easier to turn.

MAD!! You damn well know this does not apply to you! Dang LEFT COASTERS!!!!

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Report this Post11-29-2004 06:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 88gtNewbClick Here to visit 88gtNewb's HomePageSend a Private Message to 88gtNewbDirect Link to This Post
Alright, thanks for the helpful responses. One last question, anyone made their own shift knob out of a pool ball? I've got about 3 spare 8-balls lying around and thinking it would make a sweet shifter as long as you could drill a hole and thread it to make it fit on the shaft. Any ideas how to do this?
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Report this Post11-29-2004 07:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KentoSend a Private Message to KentoDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 88gtNewb:

Alright, thanks for the helpful responses. One last question, anyone made their own shift knob out of a pool ball? I've got about 3 spare 8-balls lying around and thinking it would make a sweet shifter as long as you could drill a hole and thread it to make it fit on the shaft. Any ideas how to do this?

First you would need to find the thread and then look on-line for thread inserts. then you can drill the hole and insert it, screw it on.

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First you would need to find the thread and then look on-line for thread inserts. then you can drill the hole and insert it, screw it on.

Or, you can do it the cheap and easy way like my car's previous owner did. Drill a hole in the bottom of the ball a little bit smaller than the shift lever. Then screw it on. As you screw it on, the threads on the shift lever will cut into the softer pool ball and it will be threaded.

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Report this Post11-29-2004 09:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jsmorter1Send a Private Message to jsmorter1Direct Link to This Post
It is a pain in the a$$ to tap the hole out in a real pool ball because the material wants to compress when you cut and then grab when you back the tap out. Drilling the hole is easy though
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Report this Post11-30-2004 05:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TrekkerClick Here to visit Trekker's HomePageSend a Private Message to TrekkerDirect Link to This Post
A friend of mine gave me this awhile back with the hole already drilled. It was threaded when I screwed it on. Shifts just fine!

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