I've got a buddy with an old 86 Celica that wants to race my 84SE Fiero. Any ideas on what I should expect? This is what I know so far (correct me if I'm wrong):

Celica---------------------Fiero
5-Speed------------------4-Speed
97hp-----------------------92hp
118torque---------------134torque
and his apparently wieghs about 300 pounds less. (not 100% sure, but that's what he says)

Any ideas on what to expect?

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[This message has been edited by KingOfKings (edited 08-07-2004).]

I would expect the fiero to win based on the fact that it has more torque than the celica, the horsepower diff isn't that much, and I don't think it weighs less than the fiero.

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You should be able to take him off the line if you have a manual trans . I'd say it would be pretty close at the top end . Race him and find out.

Is his car a standard or an automatic ? Is yours standard?
I Have a Motor Trend from 1992 and it puts the Celica GT conv. with a 130 HP engine and 140 lbs of torque at 9.8 sec. 0-60. So I would bet the 98 HP 1986 model is slower. The 84 Fiero SE will do 0-60 in about 11 sec (new)..

Well his car weighs about the same as our's do, he's just down a little bit on torque. Depending on what his gear ratios are and skill level of both of you to drive your cars. It will be a good race I bet.

EDIT: He's got a 5speed manual, and I have a 4speed manual.

quote Originally posted by black Fiero SE: Is his car a standard or an automatic ? Is yours standard? I Have a Motor Trend from 1992 and it puts the Celica GT conv. with a 130 HP engine and 140 lbs of torque at 9.8 sec. 0-60. So I would bet the 98 HP 1986 model is slower. The 84 Fiero SE will do 0-60 in about 11 sec (new)..

The '92 Celica GT conv. weighs about 3000 lbs versus 2500-2600. The '92 cars weighed anywhere from about 2650-3200lbs, and from 103HP and 102Ft lbs of torque to 200HP and 200Ft lbs of torque.

quote Originally posted by iced_theater: The '92 Celica GT conv. weighs about 3000 lbs versus 2500-2600. The '92 cars weighed anywhere from about 2650-3200lbs, and from 103HP and 102Ft lbs of torque to 200HP and 200Ft lbs of torque.

I know the 1990 Celica All-Trac has 200 HP and 200 ft lbs of torque . You could be right about the 92' Conv. I was incorrect when I stated the road test was for a 92' conv. Celica. It was for a 91' Celica GT conv. with the 130 HP motor..

I think it would be a close race .

the all-trac is a different beast entirely...they cam w/ a 3S-GTE... the same engine that came in the 90-99 mr2 turbo... unless that celica has some work done you WILL win if you know when to shift and can shift fast enough

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It sounds like they are about equal so I would think it would probably come down to the drivers.

Hey i thought it was an 86 celica, not a 90,92 .There is a big differance and now we know you've got a 4spd I think you'll take the 86 celica.

I raced my buddies 87 Celica, Both of ours were automatic, and of course mine is a V6 so I killed him =) But Good Luck.

You should Win Easily.

Adam

Yea..........im pretty sure you will stomp on him, let us know how it goes........
-Roy

One way to find out, line up and race. If you lose the race, who cares really, its all in good fun. If friends go to watch, be sure to remind them that they should have time to go get a soda and come back by the time the 1/4 mile is over, in case they're thirsty..