As many of you know, the Custom Compact Power Jam was moved this year to the Pennsylvania Farm Show Complex in Harrisburg PA. This was thanks to some of the show attendees in the past that caused problems the last few years which nicely got themselves kicked out of the Carlisle show.
Anyway, last year they had over 3400 cars at the show but due to limited space this year at the complex in Harrisburg they have had to limit the number of cars that will be attending because of it.
They stated that all indoor NCAA judged competitors must pre-qualify before you can even attampt to pre-register and only 200 out of thousands will be accepted and allowed to be in the indoor premier area.
They are doing this two ways. One way is by submitting photos with a vehicle description of the car you wish to bring. Another way is to be invited either from qualifying in winning at previous key shows earlier, being seen at previous shows or possibly even from your car being seen on a web site or two.
All others who want to come would be kept outside and not be part of the premier showing and judging that would be done inside. The cars outside would be more of a regular basic show though even the number allowed to attend outside from what I understand could also be somewhat limited due to space.

Can any of you see where this is going yet?

Yup, you guessed it. I got an e-mail response earlier today from Mike who confirmed that Jordans Fiero qualifies for the limited indoor event!
Yes, his green fast and furious Fiero was chosen as one of the limited 200 cars to be indoors in the premier judged event!
Here is the e-mail response I received today:

quote Steve, It's definitely eligible! The car looks great! The thing is, for indoor elite competition I'll need you to register today. The cutoff was actually yesterday but we can still fit you in. If you can't, I can possibly register you at the event but I can't guarantee it because of space. If you will need electric for the car (since indoor cars must have batteries disconnected), I'll also need to know that today. You can call (717)243-7855 to register for both. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Thanks! Mike Kelsch Event Manager Carlisle Productions, Inc. 1000 Bryn Mawr Rd. Carlisle, PA 17013 (717) 243-7855 ext.113 mikek@carsatcarlisle.com

The bad news is that I have no way of getting a registration in that quickly. Plus we have allready commited to the Fieros at Carlisle and it would be very difficult to afford to go to both
I bet Jordan would have had a blast being at that show and in the premier indoor area with his Fiero among all those other incredible custom compact cars. Maybe next year
We could have represented the Fiero and let many attendees, news show coverege people and the many magazine people who will be there see a Pontiac Fiero among the Honda's, Mitsu's, Subaru's, Toyota's and such.

Pretty cool huh? Anyone want to maybe sponsor us and put us up for that weekend to allow us to go?

Steve & Jordan

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Lime green glow in the dark riced up decaled neoned Fieros rock!!

[This message has been edited by Fiero5 (edited 05-05-2004).]

Sure! Why not. Sounds great. Be ready for next year!

Edit: I read your post too quickly, But if I already got myself committed to helping you & Jordan, it would have to be for next year, not this year. All my pennies this year are going into Wheatstock.

[This message has been edited by Cheever3000 (edited 05-05-2004).]

Stick it outside with the rest, you don't want to be running back and forth watching all your cars anyhow.

EDIT, just relised you weren't talking about the carlisle show in particular.

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It took us (and the compact guys themselve screwing up) a few years to get them run out of the Carlisle show. At least a 1/3 of the showfield stopped coming because of the compacts being there. Last year, that started picking back up and hopefully the show field will be pretty full again. He will have much more fun at the Carlisle Kit/ Import / Fiero show anyway.

Oh yeah, a Fiero show will always come first

They do seem to really want us at this show though.
Check out this e-mail I just got today after e-mailing them back late yesterday telling him that we would probably have to pass as we couldn't possibly get a registration back to them in time and that we had allready committed to Fieros at Carlisle:

quote Steve, Keep in touch up to the event. I've got one other guy who wants to register at the event on Friday night. If I can make it happen for him, it will be easy enough to handle your registration there, too. Write me back or call me if you haven't heard from me by Friday. Thanks, Mike

how much of a "sponser" are we talking??

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88GT 5 spd Red w/grey int.
88GT 5 spd Red w/tan int., lowered 1 inch with Fiero Store springs and Koni Shocks and Struts, headlight conversion kit, short shifter,
87GT auto, Maroon,grey, w/grey int. 3.4L, needs to be rebuilt,
87GT 5 spd 2.8 liter silver and grey paint power everything , redone headliner, aussie's subwoofer console , fiero store seat covers, short shifter, halogen headlight upgrade , intrax lowering springs, fiero gt floormats, rodneys factory subwoofer upgrade kit for the performace sound system. Getting her this weekend YAY.

Well as we only budgeted to be able to bairly afford to make Fieros at Carlisle, we would require enough money to be able to participate for this show almost completely. That would mean money for the registration itself as well as money to stay over at a hotel near there for the show or a at least a place to stay if someone locally wanted to volunteer a room for Jordan and I to stay in.
Then we would need money for food for the two of us for the weekend. Jordan doesn't actually eat that much as he can almost live on a box of cheerios and I can easily go with two meals a day as I am not much of a breakfast person.
I can probably cover money for gas worst case but thats about it without possibly jeopardizing our ability to then be able to afford to go to Fieros at Carlisle.

Steve

Probably a bad idea to go on a trip when you don't have any money.

quote Originally posted by Hairy_Fiero: Probably a bad idea to go on a trip when you don't have any money.

Ya think?
Baah, you only live once

quote Originally posted by Hairy_Fiero: Probably a bad idea to go on a trip when you don't have any money.

Probably a bad idea to own a Fiero if you don't have any money ;-)

I don't know about anyone else, but somehow my Fiero has tapped into my bank account and goes out on a parts binge at will, and stranger yet I have no recollection during those time periods.

Steve, congrats and pass on the congrats to Jordan, last I saw the car it was just exiting it Green Goblin stage, it's come a long way, nice to see our little car can still hold it's own in the new and old arena's

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Steve

Ottawa Fiero
84 3100 5 Speed
85 Stock SE

LOL, i spent more on my V8 car last year than a lot of people made.........and I bailed....

quote Originally posted by sentinel_76ca: Probably a bad idea to own a Fiero if you don't have any money ;-)

Alright !!!....Have you been talking to my wife ??

quote Originally posted by JKFIERO: Alright !!!....Have you been talking to my wife ??

Naa, I was just repeating what mine strategically fires off ever so often. I'm pretty sure it's an instictive thing,when men were inventing the wheel (takes peek for PC police) , the wife was there complaining
you don't have time for that contraption, the cave needs cleaning, we're getting low on mammoth and boar, and how many times do I need to tell you that T-Rex needs to be walked(mmmm historically accurate too)

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Steve

Ottawa Fiero
84 3100 5 Speed
85 Stock SE

I must be lucky- My wife said that I could go to the Dells this year and then for a few stops on the Hot Rod Power Tour while she stays home and goes to her job.

We have been picked as one of the elite 200 for the indoor judging:

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Carlisle Custom Compact at Harrisburg
May 15-16, 2004
PA Farm Show Complex, Harrisburg PA

The Carlisle Custom Compact at Harrisburg event takes off May 15-16 at the Pennsylvania Farm Show Complex in Harrisburg. The event, previously held in Carlisle, will feature sport compacts from stock to radically modified and includes a professionally judged show field. This event hosted over 3400 cars in 2003! Space in 2004 is limited so register today to ensure a spot at the show. Contact mikek@carsatcarlisle.com with any questions.

Elite Judged Indoor Show Field (NCCA Judging Team)
All competitors must pre-register, and pre-qualification is necessary by submitting photos and vehicle description to Mike at mikek@carsatcarlisle.com or mail to 1000 Bryn Mawr Rd. Carlisle PA 17013. Only 200 cars will be accepted. Roll-In is Friday between 3pm and 9pm. Admission fee gets 1 car and 2 adults in the venue for the weekend plus Carlisle Elite t-shirt and Friday night reception. Please note indoor rules: You must have less than ¼ tank of gas, gas caps must be sealed, and batteries must be disconnected. If you need electric for your display, contact mikek@carsatcarlisle.com to make arrangements immediately or call (717) 243-7855 ext.113. The Official NCCA rulebook is available for download here.
$85

Drive-In "Street Class" Show field (All New Carlisle/EDM Judging Team)
All competitors must pre-register, and pre-qualification is not necessary. Only the first 250 registrations will be accepted. Please note indoor rules: You must have less than ¼ tank of gas, gas caps must be sealed, and batteries must be disconnected. Roll in will occur prior to the event on both Saturday and Sunday from 6:30am-9:30am and vehicles must stay inside until the event closes for the evening. Admission fee gets 1 car and 2 adults in the venue for the weekend. REGISTRATION HAS CLOSED FOR THIS COMPETITION.
$65

New - Outdoor Judged Show Field
Admission fee gets 1 car and 2 adults in the venue for the weekend. We only have 2200 outdoor spaces. Last year at Carlisle we had more than 3400 vehicles. Now that we are offering outdoor judging, all remaining spaces will go fast. Over 90 classes. Don't miss out. Pre-register now, because when they're gone, that's it.
$45

well how much?????????????????
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4
thanks

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88GT 5 spd Red w/grey int.
88GT 5 spd Red w/tan int., lowered 1 inch with Fiero Store springs and Koni Shocks and Struts, headlight conversion kit, short shifter,
87GT auto, Maroon,grey, w/grey int. 3.4L, needs to be rebuilt,
87GT 5 spd 2.8L Silver w/grey int. power everything , redone headliner, aussie's subwoofer console , fiero store seat covers, short shifter, halogen headlight upgrade , intrax lowering springs, fiero gt floormats, rodneys factory subwoofer upgrade kit for the performace sound system. Getting her this weekend YAY.

DelawareFiero, you have a PM

didnt go through email me please

nevermind I got it

[This message has been edited by DelawareFiero (edited 05-05-2004).]

Oh, ok

[This message has been edited by Fiero5 (edited 05-05-2004).]

check your pm

quote Originally posted by DelawareFiero: check your pm

Right back atcha

I bet if everyone here Paypal'd you a couple of bucks, you'd have more than enough $ to go... and buy Jordan a nice new pair of jeans!

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Still plays with cars!

1986 Pontiac Fiero GT
1969 Porsche 912

quote Originally posted by exc911ence: I bet if everyone here Paypal'd you a couple of bucks, you'd have more than enough $ to go... and buy Jordan a nice new pair of jeans!

LOL poor Jordan, he loves his sweat pants

Actually it looks like we may be all set in that dept.

Update: What we do need though is scources/recommendations for getting maybe these items donated/sponsored in part or in whole:
1) Full set of cross drilled rotors
2) Carbon Fiber interior trim set
3) Good metal and glass polishing compound/rouge
4) POR 15
5) High Flow Cat (Rodney?)

We want to ty and obtain these somehow and just want to know who has the best buy and quality and might want to sponsor "Team Jordan"

Thanks in advance

Steve & Jordan

Edited as we didn't realize just how much all of these items actualy were

[This message has been edited by Fiero5 (edited 05-07-2004).]

Im lost?.....you want to buy cross drilled rotors for the show? But you needed sponsorship to be able to GO to the show? You couldnt afford this show and carlisle? Please shed some light on this.

quote Originally posted by DelawareFiero: Im lost?.....you want to buy cross drilled rotors for the show? But you needed sponsorship to be able to GO to the show? You couldnt afford this show and carlisle? Please shed some light on this.

We had allready budgeted to go to Carlisle (as stated earlier) and one of the things we had allready saved up for (so we had thought) was a set of cross drilled rotors. We had gotten commments even on here on how bad the stock rotors now looked with the now larger 17" rims. But as I said, I can't afford even a fraction of what they are asking. So now I am looking for a less expensive set that I can then possibly contact the manufacturer and see if they would be willing to send me them for free on a sponsorship deal since any of the rotors I have seen so far are much more than we had anticipated. Even the Fiero stores are like almost $400.
I guess we were wishfull thinking on what we had expected to find them at. Oh well, live and learn.
But sadly it doesn't appear that there is anyone else out there so we will probably have to live with what we have (not that big a deal) or maybe get a cheap stock OEM sized set off ebay worst case
Sorry, didn't mean to freak you or anyone else out with that one

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It's nice that your 8 year old has a Fiero, but seriously here.. You need to take a step back and say to yourself "Who really wants this Fiero, Jordan or me?". It wasn't so bad I suppose to ask for sponsorship to the event, but to ask for mod's ontop of it is pretty lame. If it's really his car maybe you should store it and wait for him to get a job in about 8 years so he can pay to mod it.

Hairy_Fiero, as I have allready said, we were allready planning on going to Carlisle and had budgeted to do some things to the car anyway in time for that show. We do have some money to put into it after all. We just can't pay for some stuff for it and the Carlisle show we had planned to get it to and then also now pay for this new opportunity that has come up as well. Hey, if we can't do it we can't do it. We were allready trying to get the car in some kind of a bit better condition for Fieros at Carlisle, but the reality is that we have only so much money. We will make do with what we have and it will just have to be good enough
I was in no way asking for anyone on here to pay for additonal mods, only for the ability to allow us the possibility to get Jordan and I and his car to this show. Now if maybe the Fiero Store or someone wants to sponsor us by supplying us with a set at no cost, who would I be to argue?
So Hairy_Fiero, If you want to try and start a flame war about it, go try somewhere else.

Blackrams touts the 'Vette brake conversion rather highly. After riding in his 4.9.. I have to agree.. the stomp on the stop pedal will snap your neck if your not watching for it.

Cool, thanks for the heads up. Sounds like a nice set up. How can I get some more info on this?
Also again please keep in mind that this is on a shoestring budget and is for visual as much as function.

Just in case people are donating money, I'm looking for money for a Ferrari 355. or just cut to the chase and donate the 355 to me. Oh and I'm also looking to take a trip to Fiji but havent budgeted the money so if you could get me some free plane tickets that would be good.

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: I was in no way asking for anyone on here to pay for additonal mods, only for the ability to allow us the possibility to get Jordan and I and his car to this show. Now if maybe the Fiero Store or someone wants to sponsor us by supplying us with a set at no cost, who would I be to argue?

Does anybody else think that these two sentences contradict each other? You're "not asking someone to pay for your mods", but you are "wondering" if "someone" wants to sponsor you by giving you mods at no cost. If you want the Fiero Store to sponsor you, you should email the Fiero Store, logically. And do you really need POR-15 and carbon fiber trim to go to a show that you have already been accepted in? When you are asking for money for food?! Sounds like someone is trying to get a free ride on the pity train.

quote Originally posted by Savagery: Does anybody else think that these two sentences contradict each other? You're "not asking someone to pay for your mods", but you are "wondering" if "someone" wants to sponsor you by giving you mods at no cost. If you want the Fiero Store to sponsor you, you should email the Fiero Store, logically. And do you really need POR-15 and carbon fiber trim to go to a show that you have already been accepted in? When you are asking for money for food?! Sounds like someone is trying to get a free ride on the pity train.

Well, I don't remember ever asking for your opinion on why "we" think it might be a smart idea to try and make the car look a bit better. And since when is asking for sponsorship money to get us there automatically mean that we are going to use it instead for mods? Yeah, using the money to get the car down there instead for parts makes sense
Fierostore may supply us with cross driled rotors as may other vendors who may supply us with parts that I am contacting, and I may have a few sponsors who may supply us with money to get parts we can't afford that we can't get donated. I also have someone who has committed to supplying us with the money we need to get down there, eat and such so we should be good. We just wish we had more time to work on the car
Remember that they invited us based on pics they saw of it on the internet, and as we all know many times pics can make a car look a lot better than it really is,
The bottom line is to be able to get the car there in at least what condition it is in now, but in the mean time if I can secure any additional parts to help get it up a scale or two so much the better.
Looks like at least Tequlaz is looking to bump up his red negatives by spewing his crap in another of our threads. Dude, please go do it somewhere else, prefferably in one of your own.
Thanks

Besides, getting sponsorship is nothing new in the car world.
In fact, I just saw this thread on this forum:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/041408.html

So, anyone interested in some sneak peak pics of Jordans Fiero being prepped for this huge show?

[This message has been edited by Fiero5 (edited 05-11-2004).]

Really, now, what's the harm in asking for funds? Doesn't hurt to ask. It won't get much from us Fiero folks... heck, we hardly raised enough to send flowers and a get well card to Anthony Barber after his accident. And I myself will admit I haven't donated a few lousy bucks to PFF in a long time.

And as far as we can tell, he seems to be very open about what the money would go towards.

Also, it's a good cause. Taking the Fiero to the compact crowd. Who else around here has such a car, and is willing to go?

The subject line of the topic sums it up pretty good. They are invited to participate in the best part of the show, but need a little help getting there (okay, a LOT of help). So close and yet so far away. Who hasn't felt that way?

I admire him for asking for help. He's saying something that I think a lot of us have wanted to say. Sure, we all want mod's and money to go places, but he wants to do it in a way that represents us. Remember when he asked for help getting his Indy to the NASCAR race? I see no difference here.

I don't mean to add to any flames. I'm just saying I don't see anything wrong with what he's trying to do.

I've watched a bunch of these threads go by and kept out of it each time but this time i'm finally going to say something:
Seriously Steve don't you think this is just a tad rediculous?
There are MANY shows i would love to go to that i just can't afford to make. There are also MANY mods i'd love to do to make the car look better for the shows i do make but i don't go online asking for money to pay for my way and my stuff. I'm sure, based on what i've seen you say to others, that you'll take that as a flame but it really isn't or isn't meant to be.
If you can't afford to go to a show or afford a mod then you either don't get it or you
save up and get it later. That's how everyone else does it.

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