I am just doing some preliminary studies for a swap I intend to do in the future. (It has been put on hold since I am getting a house built. I could live in the Fiero but the kids don't fit in the trunk anymore. It will have to wait till summer of 2005.)

I was just wondering if the 3.5 litre, 250hp engine from the Saturn Vue is a new engine? If so, I am assuming no one has tried the swap yet but I wouldn't put it past this group to have accomplished it already. Or, is it a derivative of the 3.5 litre Olds engines?

250 horses normally aspirated in a package smaller than a V8 sound real good to me.

Any ideas?

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FrozenFiero
(1987 2.5l Sport Coupe)

From..
http://www.regalgs.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2958

"The new 3.5L SOHC V6 is a Honda engine, same as used in both the Acura MDX and Honda Pilot SUVs."

What he said, its a Honda motor. GM traded them something for it, although I can't remember what. I wanna say OnStar, but I'm not positive.

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Nick www.naskie18.com AIM: Naskie182010

Yea, its a honda motor but it has to be the best thing Saturn has ever done. The ole 180 hp motor was junk. they traded honda their transmission technology. Saturn VUE's have a CVT now. Continously Variable tranny, no gears jus belts and pullies. I am considering buying a new VUE and its engine is the main reason. Plus the Redline VUE is pretty sharp looking. As for a engine swap candidate, might be alil difficult getting one and probably expensive. Theres are some new GM V-6's coming out soon with comparable HP

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Earl Sessions
1985 Fiero w/ 1998 Supercharged 3.8 V-6
Best ET:3.0 pulley 12.44 @ 109.19mph
2.75 pulley 12.20@ 110.90 mph


"NO Juice....Just BOOST!"

I am a big fan of the Redline VUE. Our company makes the front fascias for both the VUE and the Redline (internally known as the Street Expression). I am proud to say that I designed the masking ditch for both vehicles. I'm the masking engineer for our company. Saturn took my design 100%.
I have also considered one and I must say that I agree. The 3.5 was their best move ever. The V6 with the brushed aluminum grille bar (also something I was invloved in) is the giveaway that the "stock" VUE has the Honda engine. 250 hp in that vehicle is a real sleeper!

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Paul

Being a honda engine, does it have a GM tranny? Will a fiero one bolt up?

quote Originally posted by lildevil: Yea, its a honda motor but it has to be the best thing Saturn has ever done. The ole 180 hp motor was junk. they traded honda their transmission technology. Saturn VUE's have a CVT now. Continously Variable tranny, no gears jus belts and pullies. I am considering buying a new VUE and its engine is the main reason. Plus the Redline VUE is pretty sharp looking. As for a engine swap candidate, might be alil difficult getting one and probably expensive. Theres are some new GM V-6's coming out soon with comparable HP

Hold on a sec... I'd heard of CVT trannies, but is it actually being used now? I thought the problem they were having with them was that they couldn't hold much power without slipping...

Brad

Yes, they are actually just being used in american cars. My understanding is that they have been used in Europe and Japan for about 15 years.

Paul

Cool, guess either my profs at school are behind on the times, or I am

quote Originally posted by naskie18: What he said, its a Honda motor. GM traded them something for it, although I can't remember what. I wanna say OnStar, but I'm not positive.

Honda traded GM for diesel engines for Honda's european market.

My bet is it will not bolt into the fiero without extensive modifications. Im sure wiring and mounts are nothing like regualr GM, the bellhousing is different but it may not even work with an adaptor, im not sure but it probably sits in the traditional Honda style (backwards, tranny on passenger side). Besides, within the next year, GM is releasing a ton of all new engines, mostly 60* DOHC 6's That will be just about as powerful and im sure, easier to bolt up

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Carbed 2.9 engine build in progress. forged pistons, crane cam, fully balanced, ARP bolts, double roller timing chain and more
--Adam--
IM AOL: FieroGT5speed

I have heard that the Vue uses the Honda engine and transmission.

My wife is looking for an SUV. I keep nudging her in the direction of the Red Line. I think she still wants an Envoy, though.

Yes, the Vue does use the Honda engine and transmission. I don't think it would work in a Fiero because, as stated before, it sits the opposite way than other GM vehicles. Why would you want to drop this motor in a Fiero anyway when there are so many other proven engine swaps out there. If you're really bent on a nice V-6 though, the 3.6L from the Cadillac CTS is a really nice motor, don't know how it would fit in seeing it is longitudinal and all, but they do put it in the Buick front drivers, so I'm sure it could be done.

It's a nice motor, it'll tow a Fiero with no problems.

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Alan Frazier
'86 GT-'92 3.4 TDC 5 speed(sold)
'84 2m4 project car
'88 Silver coupe, auto For Sale

quote Originally posted by GTFiero1: but it probably sits in the traditional Honda style (backwards, tranny on passenger side).

I have not looked a VUE but I am familiar with the engine as I am an Acura tech. If it is the same basic engine as in the RL or MDX then the trans is on the driver's side, or mounted longitudinally. The last car Acura had with a passenger side mounted trans was the Integra. The RL is longitudinal and the MDX is on the driver's side. I can tell you the bell housing is nothing like a Fiero trans and an adaptor plate would need to be made to use it.

You COULD have a 3.5 V6....or, you could have a 3.5 V8 from an esprit and have double the HP/Torque....

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Fiero: Get in, sit down, shut up, hold on!!

radar, wait till the chevy equinox comes out, it's gonna be the shiznit. And all you other guys, reading car and driver are we ??