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How Much horsepower/torque would I need to tow a Fiero? by Adrift
Started on: 11-02-2003 12:40 PM
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Report this Post11-02-2003 12:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AdriftClick Here to visit Adrift's HomePageSend a Private Message to AdriftDirect Link to This Post
My Parents have an older Pathfinder SUV, it doesn't have much get-go (V6 Horsepower: 170 hp Max Horsepower: 4800 rpm Torque: 200 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 2800 rpm Maximum Towing Capacity: 5000 lbs ).

I'd like to tow a fiero with it though. Is 5000lbs towing capacity enough? I mean the Fiero + a rented UHaul flatbed would probably come pretty close to 5000 lbs, no?

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Report this Post11-02-2003 01:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MorkidanSend a Private Message to MorkidanDirect Link to This Post
I think you will be fine

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Report this Post11-02-2003 01:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CoolBlue87GTSend a Private Message to CoolBlue87GTDirect Link to This Post
I used to use a 99 Jeep Cherokee with an open trailer. It had the power, 4.0 6 cyl, but being a short wheel base, the towing ride would get downright scary at times.

The Pathfinder is about the same size/weight.

The weight of the car is around 2800, the trailer was 1400 lbs. That's about 4200, most short wheel base truck/SUV's would handle that.

The U-Haul trailers are about 2100 lbs empty !! That would put you close to the 5000 lbs limit.

A tow dolly might be an idea, it's alot easier to pull, as the load is on the ground & and not hanging off the rear bumper.

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Report this Post11-02-2003 02:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kingofiero71Send a Private Message to kingofiero71Direct Link to This Post
hook a tow rope to a bicycle thats about all youll need. yeah you should have no problems with haulin a fiero with that

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Report this Post11-02-2003 02:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
CoolBlue,

Was your trailer a tandem axle or single axle?

The U-haul trailers are around 2k-2100 lbs, empty. Fieros are around 2800.
You're going to be really close to the 5000 lb. limit.
(FWIW, I towed this same combination with a newer F-150. Felt like it wasn't even there.)

The good thing about the flatbed as compared to the dolly is that the flatbed probably has automatic hydraulic brakes, activated by deceleration pressure on the hitch. A dolly won't have brakes at all.

Make sure you have a good hitch.

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Report this Post11-02-2003 02:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for R RunnerSend a Private Message to R RunnerDirect Link to This Post
I have towed Fieros and other cars lots of places. I think you are really pusing the limit. It could cause problems for your truck in the future depending on the length of your trip. IF you can, rent a truck to tow with or find a buddy you can bribe. U-haul trailers are about 1800 to 2100 lb empty.

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Report this Post11-02-2003 02:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fierokid87Send a Private Message to Fierokid87Direct Link to This Post
If your really worried about it, at the 20th one person (i forget his screen name) towed his 88 Formula with a dolly attach to his 87 GT. FROM FLORIDA! ( I think)

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Report this Post11-02-2003 03:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CoolBlue87GTSend a Private Message to CoolBlue87GTDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Raydar:

CoolBlue,

Was your trailer a tandem axle or single axle?


Tandem with electric brakes.

 
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Originally posted by Raydar:
The good thing about the flatbed as compared to the dolly is that the flatbed probably has automatic hydraulic brakes, activated by deceleration pressure on the hitch. A dolly won't have brakes at all.

The U-hauls use those automatic hydraulic brakes. They would give you an little "thump" while slowing down. It always felt as if someone hit the trailer from behind. If you rent one now & then, their fine.

If you buy a trailer, electric brakes are the way to go. You'll need a brake controller box intalled inside the truck.

Here's my current trailer.

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Report this Post11-02-2003 04:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyKSend a Private Message to JohnnyKDirect Link to This Post
Horsepower and torque you will be fine, but you NEED a tranny cooler..
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Report this Post11-02-2003 07:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Shadow_WolfSend a Private Message to Shadow_WolfDirect Link to This Post
I towed mine on a tandem trailer about 650k's. The trailer wasn't exactly a light build, but my truck handled it... was driving a '91 GMC Jimmy, with the low-power version of the 4.3. Of course, it's also equipped with class-3 towing. (to 6000lbs)
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You'll be fine. I tow my 1700lb trailer + 2700lb rally car with my '90 Astro that has similar power and torque numbers to the Pathfinder. It's probably the exact same motor that's in Shadow Wolf's Jimmy.

I towed to the 20th from Seattle and it was fine. A little slow up the mountains, though.

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Report this Post11-03-2003 07:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
I towed my GT40 from St Louis to Columbus on a flatbed trailer with my Lumina Minivan with 3800. No problems at all, used cruise almost all the way.
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Report this Post11-03-2003 01:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ls3machSend a Private Message to ls3machDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Fierokid87:

If your really worried about it, at the 20th one person (i forget his screen name) towed his 88 Formula with a dolly attach to his 87 GT. FROM FLORIDA! ( I think)

This guy is THE MAN

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Report this Post11-03-2003 02:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for chesterSend a Private Message to chesterDirect Link to This Post
I've towed from Fieros to full sized Chevy 1500 pickups on my flatbed trailer, which weighs 1900+ #'s in itself, with my 94 Chevy S-10 Blazer 4X4. Vortec V6 200hp. Towed about 23,000 miles with it since I bought it without a glitch! Cruise at 70-75. Oh, and it had 104,000 miles on it when I bought it!

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Report this Post11-03-2003 10:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsDirect Link to This Post
Horse power and torque are not normally an issue if your tranny is up to the task. Most folks don't worry about the real issue until it's too late. Braking is by far the most important issue, almost anything can tow a Fiero, but can you stop with an extra 2600 lbs behind you pushing you along when you really need to stop in a hurry?

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Report this Post11-03-2003 11:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyKSend a Private Message to JohnnyKDirect Link to This Post
black: Plus trailer.. 2500+lb..
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Report this Post11-04-2003 05:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsDirect Link to This Post
Johnny,
Agreed, make that 2500 lbs for the Fiero, + 700 lbs (tow dolly) or 1500 lbs for a trailer. The point is, brakes are more important than muscle or in this case Horse Power. The Whoa Factor can make towing very dicey.

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Report this Post11-04-2003 06:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for chesterSend a Private Message to chesterDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by blackrams:

Horse power and torque are not normally an issue if your tranny is up to the task. Most folks don't worry about the real issue until it's too late. Braking is by far the most important issue, almost anything can tow a Fiero, but can you stop with an extra 2600 lbs behind you pushing you along when you really need to stop in a hurry?

Agreed. There were a couple of scenarios where if it weren't for the dual axle electric bakes on the trailer, I wouldn't be stopping in time. Good brakes do help.

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