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We all love Fieros, What do you hate about them? by Bigfieroman
Started on: 09-20-2003 11:58 AM
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There has to be something...and not general stuff, like "not enough power" or "so-so reliability", those are true of basically all cars from the 80s. I mean one little thing, or job, or maintenence procedure that just annoys the crap out of you. I will start; I hate the emergency brake lever. It is hard to reach, the button is kinda difficult, and I have to explain it to anyone who drives the car. Anyone else?

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Report this Post09-20-2003 12:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for L44_87GTSend a Private Message to L44_87GTDirect Link to This Post
I hate the oil pressure problems with the stock 2.8.I hate having to worry about how much I push a 16 year old engine.I hate haveing to think about pulling the motor to change a tranny.I hate the 4 inch wheel gap.I hate the fact that fastback tail lights are so expensive to replace.The list goes on Overall I enjoy my car and the looks it gets

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Report this Post09-20-2003 12:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 88220gtSend a Private Message to 88220gtDirect Link to This Post
i agree wuth the e-brake the one in my indy sticks sometimes but i cant stand the rip in the drivers seat either
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Report this Post09-20-2003 12:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jetmanClick Here to visit jetman's HomePageSend a Private Message to jetmanDirect Link to This Post
Must be the "check wallet light".

Sometimes it can be so hard to replace parts or work on the car due to the design.

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I agree with the wheel gap. I mean its just outrageous. What are we a jeep?
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High-speed headlamp door lift!!!

Like the engineers never went over 80 with these things ...

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I know alot of you guys love the interior but I thought its just plain and I don't like the squared all around dash. Just seems a tad boring.
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The same thing that I love about them...they are never done!

And rusted trunks

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I hate the lugnut. Specifically, the one just to clockwise of the locking lugnut on my right front wheel. I don't know why, but every time I see that lugnut it makes me want to start hitting things. It's gotten to the point that I'll walk all the way around my car to avoid seeing that lugnut. Oh, it thinks it's hidden under its little plastic cap, but I know it's there, it can't hide from me.

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Originally posted by JazzMan:

I hate the lugnut. Specifically, the one just to clockwise of the locking lugnut on my right front wheel. I don't know why, but every time I see that lugnut it makes me want to start hitting things. It's gotten to the point that I'll walk all the way around my car to avoid seeing that lugnut. Oh, it thinks it's hidden under its little plastic cap, but I know it's there, it can't hide from me.

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Blind spots when trying to look out the right rear of your car. Especially when approaching an intersection that has a median separating the two different traffic directions and you prepare to turn left and look for traffic. Agh, can't see anything.
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I hate the fact that you're "always on your own" when you have to fix something. It's really annoying when a GM tech knows less than you do about the car. I'm specifically referring to "general" diagnostics that should follow the same procedure as any other GM. (In Sargeant Shultz voice) "They know no'tink".

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I hate the fact that I have 3 and I want more....I mean how many cars can you drive at once?
Oh! and I also hate the people that think that the "rust free" body they have sitting by the road makes it worth $XXXX.XX amount of dollars but, the rusted out trunk, cradle and a few cracked parts (Think GT) on it, make you think it's worth only $XXX.XX dollars.
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Mine is sitting,because the clutch izz flip'n me the bird,paint looks like sun burnt skin,drivers seat looks like a cat's scratching post,engine bay looks like someone set off explosives under the deck lid,and the wheels-n-tires look like they were pulled off a go-cart....but for the life-o-me...I can't think of one thing I hate about it....

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I hate the fact that its slower than it looks....by far. People always wanna race, and unless its a stock civic, I'm doomed. The 60 degree V6 pisses me off to no end. Yeah, I said it. I feel soooo much better!
not specific....I know and i dont care!

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No matter what you do, how much money you spend ...when you hit a pothole it still feels like the doors are about to fall off.


Other than that their not half bad.

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I hate that no matter how fast I run out to the garage after waking up there still isn't one sitting there waiting for me. Man I hate that. LOL

Other then that the only two things I don't like are the dash and that they are in need of alot more horsepower to live up to their looks.

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Originally posted by jetman:

Must be the "check wallet light".

Sometimes it can be so hard to replace parts or work on the car due to the design.

Ditto to both. Also getting it to pass emissions. And the fact that it is an old car.

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I hate making a left turn when there is a truck in the right lane, you can't see anything and pull out pretty much blind.. that and trucks headlights shining right in your rearview
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I hate the reputation fieros have.. and I hate the shifter throw.. thats easy enough to fix tho

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Report this Post09-20-2003 06:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for My7FierosSend a Private Message to My7FierosDirect Link to This Post
Manual trannies.

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I have to agree with the blind spot comment. I also have to say that I hate the fact that parts, especially interior, are getting very hard to come by that look any better than what you are replacing. All in all though I have to say that mine has probably been one of the easiest cars I've ever had to work on. I guess I'm just one of the lucky few that hasn't had to deal with broken/seized bolt removal, rust problems, etc.

With that said, I suppose if I were one of the other guys with all these problems I'd hate people like me that have all the good luck. hehe

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I hate the fact that I end up buying everyone that I see for sale, I have had to seek professional advice. I hate that every cool mod I do only makes me want to do more. I really hate the fact that I don’t have enough money and time to finish the 3 that I have so I can buy more.
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Report this Post09-20-2003 09:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GTFiero1Send a Private Message to GTFiero1Direct Link to This Post
The damn exhaust manifolds. Why'd they have to make them so crapily? good god do i hate my leaking exhaust manifolds

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Lower balljoints *shudder*

Weak Transmissions, or the 3 speed auto in general

Internal fuel pump

Oil filter on the front side of the engine right above the stinkin hot cat.

Expensive parts

front side spark plugs

rusty frames

master cylinders

coolant pipes near jacking points, just asking for some grease monkey to crush them.

Weak electrical systems, should the rad fan dim the lights in the car???

the list goes on... but I still love em!

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What do I hate? The overall quality is one. The frame itself is tank-like, and is very stiff. But what about the other parts? I hate the fact when you have a "low mileage" Fiero, and the headlight motors are shot. Same goes for worn seats, etc.

Mechanically - hate having to either fork out billions for brand new brake lines from only a couple of places in North America, or be forced to come up with your own fabrication to replace that darned line that goes from front to back. The metric fittings are certainly a hinderance here. The beginnings of severe trunk rot in a "low mileage" beast. Weak clutch pedals - these things are supposed to be built to last the life of the car!!! There's more, but you get the idea.

Thing is, though, I'm dealing with a car that's 20 years old. Low mileage or not, I know it'll need some attention - especially since many of the parts were original when I bought the car. I knew what I was getting into with an older beast....it's not the first time I've owned something this old.

However, I love working on cars, and some of the quirks I've faced are just challenges. Every car has a quirk of some sort - it's sort of what gives the beast it's personality.

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I hate having only 11 gallons of gas at a time - 15 gallons would be much better.

I hate the 2.8 engine - my 4.6 liter Mustang gives me much more power and a few gallons More MPG !

AND I HATE PLASTIC DOOR HINGE BUSHINGS

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It draws too much attention! And it calls me in my sleep. I replaced just about everything... so I don't hate it now.

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AND I HATE PLASTIC DOOR HINGE BUSHINGS

Where are you getting your bushings? I've always just seen bronze.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by My7Fieros:

Manual trannies.

Ditto that.

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that little soft rubber POS in the gas tank
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- It costs me a lot of money... Not that it brakes down all the time, but the fact that I want to improve everything makes it tough on the wallet.

- Gas milage sucks. But it would suck no matter what car I owned due to the fact that my leg muscles aren´t strong enough to keep my right foot from flooring the gaspedal all the time.

- Headlight doors popping up at speed. And life as I see it begins at 100+ mph. Hood scoop will be done this winter to solve that though.

- Wheel gap. Not that hard to take care of, but I´m not too sure about cutting my springs. I´ll just have to wait until more money arrives so I can buy loering springs and new shocks.

- They are soooooo underpowered!!! It looks like a 0-60 in 5 sec and 180mph car, but that´s so far from reality for most of us.

- The fact that they understeer a lot. I´ll just have to install a bigger swaybar in the rear or beef up the stock one. ->winter project too.

- Living in Sweden and owning a Fiero... Parts are hard to find and PFF is about the only way to get help when you have a problem. And I just love PFF for that.

I do LOVE my car, but even the sun has its dark spots.

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i hate the fact that every one i know slams my cr but the reality is that it actually breaks down and is in the shop less than theirs and that makes me feel better cuz then i tell them "HEY MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET A FIERO " LOL
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I hate both underpowered engines...


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Originally posted by GTFiero1:

The damn exhaust manifolds. Why'd they have to make them so crapily? good god do i hate my leaking exhaust manifolds

That ticking, I want it gone so badly but almost guaranteed its gonna come back. And its not like it really is a big problem.. it just sucks!

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I hate the fact that some Jack-A$$ mechanic told me he had worked on several of them in the past and then when he lifts the car he totally screws up the rocker panels. To top it off, I finally got all of the NOS parts I've been looking for and now I find out he has done another $500 - $600 in "concealed" damage.

Don't you think that if you were going to lift a car, that you would look for a solid pice of steel or something, not a piece of plastic. At least he didn't crush my coolant tubes.

Sorry for the rant. But right now that is what I hate about my Fiero. Not to mention the fact I've not driven her for 2 weeks, and I miss the car like crazy.

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Argh!!! No Drink Holder!!!

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-blasted noisy belts
-neither of mine have t-tops
-neither of mine have a sunroof
-neither of mine have a new motor yet
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Originally posted by Steve Normington:

Ditto to both. Also getting it to pass emissions. And the fact that it is an old car.

yours dosnt pass emissions. Sorry to sound like I am bragging but here are the numbers on mine
HC 0.3405 limit is 3.0
CO 7.0162 limit is 20.0
CO2 317.6702 dont know the limit there
NOx 1.4967 and the limit was 6.0 and everything else passed. However this was on a paper that I found in the car after I bought it, as where I live I dont need to do emissions tests. Odometer was at 67270 and I now have 74700 miles on it. btw its my Red 88 that the paper was for

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Sometimes the fact i can only take one person with me.

the dash

the way the transmissions in mine always go (I wonder why )

something always goes wrong, no matter what you fix somethign will break

my headlight door pops up at 120, and im just getting going

no room

how stiff the clutch/shifter is

if you think about it the list could go on forever, but then so could the list of wh yi Like her

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