ok ok... how do i do it? i went to that one site... and it said it wouldnt confused me but it did... can someone help me out here? thanks!

Soaper

a 10 pound sledge hammer

i think theres bolts on the other side and you have to remove the inside cover of the C piller (the back one).

You have to remove the interior trim panel and take off two nuts that attach it to the pillar. After that you need a long thin screwdriver to reach in and knock off some clips on the rear edge.

After you get the front of the panel loose by removing the nuts, pull the front out slightly and look up in there for the clips. If you pull it out too much the panel will crack. Just take your time...

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okay... the c pillar? is that above the engine vents? or the B piller inside the car which is the speaker pod? lol..

Soaper

behind the speaker pods... That's where you start.

hmmm, well why is it that that is the hardest thing for me to remove in the interior!!! im bout to cut it out... lol... um Song msg me on aim i got a ? for ya.

Soaper

Oh BS... you don't have to remove anything in the interior. Follow these instructions.

http://www.fierosails.com/howto.html

quote Originally posted by batboy: Oh BS... you don't have to remove anything in the interior. Follow these instructions. http://www.fierosails.com/howto.html

Actually BatBoy, you are wrong. To remove the sail panel in it's entirety, you need to remove the B Pillar trim inside the vehicle and remove the 11MM nut on the backside of the sail panel.

For those of us with the real glass panels on our cars, it is the ONLY way to remove them. For those with the plastic ones, it is just a matter of removing the plastic insert from the face of the panel while it is still installed on the car.

Depending on which ones he has and what he specifically wants to do, he can remove them entirely, or leave them on the vehicle...

Now, for the Instructions.

Glass Sail Panels from 1984.

Remove the Phillips screw located on the front side of the B-Pillar trim where the end of the door sits. Lift the plastic cover over the top seat belt mounting bolt and use a T-50 Torx Tip to remove the bolt. Carefully grab the top outer edge of the B-Pillar trim and pull it towards the front of the car and in towards the center. This will remove the Push Fastener and allow you to slide the panel out of the way. Located at the front inside edge of the B-Pillar are two round holes near the bottom of the sail panel. The larger opening is above the smaller opening. Using a 6" or longer extension and an 11MM socket, remove the 11MM nut carefully from the backside of the Sail Panel. As you unscrew the nut, gently pry the bottom forward edge of the sail panel out and away from the vehicle. Do NOT exceed more than 2" of distance. This will allow you to remove the nut from inside the frame without dropping it. Then, using a long flat head screwdriver, slide the blade under the sail panel from the front, and gently twist the blade between the rear stud and the metal clip located on the rear notchback clip.. There are two clips on the back edge. (Repeat for the second clip on the back edge).

Installation is just a snap. Gently align sail panel rear studs with clips and press into place making sure top lip of sail panel is underneath the roof panel. The rest of the installation is revers of removal..

Plastic Sail Panels. Removal from vehicle.

Follow above instructions. Stud inside frame has a steel "Speed Nut". It is 11MM as well. Rear studs are now plastic and have a tab that pops out the side to lock sail panel in place. Panel can be removed by using a long narrow blade flat head screwdriver and pushing IN on the plastic tabs.

If servicing panels on vehicle, follow instructions on site posted by BatBoy.

EDIT*

I do NOT recommend using the method on the site that suggests prying the forward edge of the panel out of the metal clip bolted to the frame. Many of these panels have been exposed to years of sunlight and UV rays. This tends to make the plastic brittle. For the safest way, follow the above directions.

[This message has been edited by Synthesis (edited 07-16-2003).]

quote Originally posted by batboy: Oh BS... you don't have to remove anything in the interior. Follow these instructions. http://www.fierosails.com/howto.html

If you don't care if you break the studs off, go ahead and do it this way. But if you want to do it the right way and not break anything, take the B pillar trim loose and get to the nuts behind it...

I must admit I've never done the glass panels from a 84, but I have replaced the sail panels on 85 and I did NOT remove anything from the interior. Don't tell me I'm wrong when I've done this already. If you follow the instrutions that I posted and are careful, you'll have no trouble popping the sail panel frame off the car. If you want to remove the interior panel, then fine... be my guest, but on the non-84 Fieros, it's not required.

I have an 85 GT and I followed the instructions from Paul McKibbon's web site for not removing the entire panel and it was relatively easy. I do have the plastic panels on my car. You'll need a putty knife and some of that 3m adhesive remover.

Just a note: I used Goo GOne and it worked very well to remove the old adhesive. My suggestion would be to get the new gel formula of goo gone as it doesn't run as bad as the regular stuff.

Good luck and Happy "Sail"ing

MD