Me and my friend were talking today and he works in a machine shop using CNC machines. They build lots of aluminum parts and he is thinking about starting a buisness off the side making aluminum parts. He gave me a CNC program so I will be doing all the desigh and programing for him. He is going to do all the actual machining when I finish programing the machine. SO what should we be building we are already planning on making custom pulleys for various vehicles. My Fiero will be the first to have a set . Also with this program I am going to start redesigning my front and rear suspension using aluminum parts. I think we will start by making pulleys because those are easy. After that I am going to start desighning more complecated parts. Lower control arms spindles and outher goodies SO who wants pulleys for their fiero? I can make them any size you want? And what else do you guys want made?

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Steven's 85 GT 4 speed 2.8

Custom wheels would be cool

How 'bout: interior trim pieces, anodized crests for the notch sail panels, front fascia emblem, door tabs, sill inserts, adjustable short shifter, plate w/cutouts for window switches? Just some ideas to get wheels spinning.

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AIM/YIM: asyferme

If you expect the unexpected, was it really even UNexpected in the first place?

'85 SE, 2.5, 5spd (350 standing by waiting for ole duke to puke)
'86 SE, 2.8, auto (motor in pieces)

'02 Yamaha R6, blue/white, 3600 miles, LIGHT case of roadrash, for sale. Will accept Fiero(s) and/or parts as PARTIAL trade.

You Know I Think I Could Go For a Nice Set Of Trim For My Car...Yoyu Know Radio Surrond ..Gauges Faceplate Etc....

Good Lord You Must Have Beat Me to The Post By Like half A Second
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Zero C's 86 Gt Fastback

No Cat/Msd Blaster Coil/Very Soon Flowmaster 80 Series

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Aluminum cradle bushings, arms, other suspension parts, brake parts, interior parts (like surrounds and such), emblems, other parts, basically anything that can be replaced with high strength aluminum, DO IT!!! Drain plugs for the body would be good too....

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PONTIAC FIERO OUTLAW

-JESSE JAMES-

1984 Pontiac Fiero SE
Project Weekend Warrior has started...
(No engine for right now... What will I get next that I hope will be actually *good*?)

V6 alternator brackets

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Rich
white '86 se: , 2" drop, coil overs, KYB's. CRX intake, ported manifolds

Gold '86se: ,350 bored .030 over,World Products s/r Torquers, ported, Manley valves, edelbrock 750cfm, carb sanderson cc90's,4:10,Spec stage 3copper puck clutch , adj.Koni's, Eibach's,polly. and lots more!!

'92 BMW 325i : borla exhaust, ST brace, cold air intake

Brushed aluminum round molding for the outside of the car. Of course, you would have to integrate marker lights into them as well.

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I'd like to see some emblems that say Fiero or V6 Fiero. Something you could put on the plenum and/or fender.

Also, steering wheel hubs for aftermarket wheels. The kits they make are ugly, and most of them stick out further than the stock wheel.

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I wont be able to do eblems or logos. to many curves and such. The program I am using is only good for flat surfaces. Cradle bushings are easy Brake parts would be very difficult So cradle bushings and pulleys sound like a good start. Interior trim is also easy to do after I get more experienced. I am learning from scratch so bear with me. Shifter knobs can be made also to any design. Wheels would be tough but not that hard to do. you would be better off buying from a dealer becaues 1 offs would be way to expensive. Thanks for the feed back if you get anymore wants LMK hubs can be made to I think. Anodizing is also availabe I don't know what colors yet. Will find out tommorow K

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Lots of great ideas here. I would purchase a set of aluminum rounded trim molding if the price was right. I don't know about the "lower control arm spindles" though, that sounds dangerous. I didn't think aluminum could take the forces that cars put on spindles... otherwise everyone would be doing it for their drop spindles...

Trim moulding would be to long to make using a cnc mill so I wont be making that. When I make my spindles they will use a steel shaft for the bearings mounted in a high strength housing. I can get aircraft aluminum for those parts.

hey red, since im in saskatoon too.
i might be interested in a billit aluminum shift knob for the right price.. also if you could make me some engine mounts for a 3800SC swap? that would be unreal.

quote Originally posted by red85gt: Alternator bracket? What is wrong with the stock one? OH Dog bones can also be made too and anodized Motor and tranny mounts should be doable too

ive seen waay too many broken ones, and i think they're discontunied

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Rich
white '86 se: , 2" drop, coil overs, KYB's. CRX intake, ported manifolds

Gold '86se: ,350 bored .030 over,World Products s/r Torquers, ported, Manley valves, edelbrock 750cfm, carb sanderson cc90's,4:10,Spec stage 3copper puck clutch , adj.Koni's, Eibach's,polly. and lots more!!

'92 BMW 325i : borla exhaust, ST brace, cold air intake

I'll take an aluminum space frame. (I wish!)

They are discontinued.

quote Originally posted by red85gt: Alternator bracket? What is wrong with the stock one?

I have been looking for a billett gas door.
One with an outer ring & then a center cap/lid.

Yeah baby!

John

'skitime' style alternator bracket for 3800SC swaps would be a popular item, I'd think.

Stay away from suspension parts (besides bushings), too much liability there. Anyways, CNC'd aluminum would be much too weak, you'd need forged pieces.

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1988 Quad 4 Coupe 5 speed click for more pics
1986 GT 5 speed
AOL: LastMinuteBastrd AIM: SavedbyJebus

Hey, I'm up for a couple sets of aluminum cradle bushings. Call me crazy, but I'd like a set of aluminum dogbone bushings, too.

Engine swap kits, seriously, make adapter plates for I dare say.... Ford 5.0 Liter, and 351's, or other ford motors, or maybe an adapter and mounts for one of the new Dodge 350 Hemi's? Or stay with GM and make mounts for 3800, 3400 dohc, 4.9/4.5's, Northstars, and small blocks. Seriously we could use more vendors for motor mounts, and related items. Dogbone style mounts, with a single mount underneath the motor.

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PONTIAC FIERO OUTLAW

-JESSE JAMES-

1984 Pontiac Fiero SE
Project Weekend Warrior has started...
(No engine for right now... What will I get next that I hope will be actually *good*?)

Motor mounts sound like a hot item I only wish I knew what shape, size. I would need a model mount so I can make the measurements and write all the language for the cnc. Anyone willing to send me a sample of their mounts? I can work from a detailed photo too has to include all the critical dimensions. I am going to have a look at my alt bracket and see what I can come up with. I bought a monitor today so I am going to start praticing writing the code. Some of this stuff gets really intricate. Shifter knobs I can have made without the CNC. My friend would do them by hand which is much quicker for those little pieces. PM me sketches of what knob you would want and I will see what I can do Please send me cradle bushing dimensions too! I can make these right away and let you know what pricing will be. They can be anodized to for a little extra $$

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quote Originally posted by 1985FieroGT: Engine swap kits, seriously, make adapter plates for I dare say.... Ford 5.0 Liter, and 351's, or other ford motors, or maybe an adapter and mounts for one of the new Dodge 350 Hemi's? Or stay with GM and make mounts for 3800, 3400 dohc, 4.9/4.5's, Northstars, and small blocks. Seriously we could use more vendors for motor mounts, and related items. Dogbone style mounts, with a single mount underneath the motor.

Ya know, I was thinking this same thing last night at work. I have 3-302s, 1-351M, and 1-460 that have been looking for homes. I would love to do a 347 stroker (stroked 302) in my '86SE. I am not in it for the power, I want the Ford smallblock SOUND. Yes, 350s sound very nice too, but I don't have my 350 anymore because I just sold it to my brother (his broke a rod). I would gladly pay Archie's kind of price for a 1" thick aircraft aluminium (T-6021 or whatever it is) adapter that will mate a Ford 302 to the Fiero slushbox.

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The rear spindle(where the shock absorber and the lower suspenssin arm are hooked up??) are very heavy. That whould be a good are for improvement. Engine craddle isnt that heavy but whould be great in aluminum.

DreX

Thanks for the great feed back people I am going to talk these over with my friend and see what we are ablt to make. Adapter plates should be easy. Except I don't know where to get the measurements. Are there any websites out there I could get them from?Edit. Is there any cheap auto cad programs outthere? All I have is a crappy class room cnc program. I cant really do anything worthwhile with it Auto CAD is supposed to be really cool help anyone? Also going to post in O/T

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quote Originally posted by red85gt: Thanks for the great feed back people I am going to talk these over with my friend and see what we are ablt to make. Adapter plates should be easy. Except I don't know where to get the measurements. Are there any websites out there I could get them from?Edit. Is there any cheap auto cad programs outthere? All I have is a crappy class room cnc program. I cant really do anything worthwhile with it Auto CAD is supposed to be really cool help anyone? Also going to post in O/T [This message has been edited by red85gt (edited 06-08-2003).]

I can meausure my 302 block next time I get a chance to break it out of storage. My cousin took some autocad classes recently (autocad2000), so I'll see if he still has access to the program there at the school. If he does, I could have him do the measurements on that if it would be compatable with your system.

Do you need the transaxle measurements too?

Hey jlhuber, if he can't pull through with it, you wanna put through an effort? 50/50 we'll be the first to put a ford motor into a fiero... even though I'm unsure i can trust ford products, how reliable are 302's? You and I can work on it, and have a machine shop create adapter plates, and mounts, and sell them off.

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PONTIAC FIERO OUTLAW

-JESSE JAMES-

1984 Pontiac Fiero SE
Project Weekend Warrior has started...
(No engine for right now... What will I get next that I hope will be actually *good*?)

yes I need mesurements of the engine and the fiero trans. A good photo to accompany would be great too! That way I can see the general shape that is needed.

here's a picture of a ford 5.0L bolt pattern
no measurements however http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_5f4f9f81c4e77d4d331853ee95e04595/i-4.JPG.

hmm that link dosent work.

quote Originally posted by 1985FieroGT: Hey jlhuber, if he can't pull through with it, you wanna put through an effort? 50/50 we'll be the first to put a ford motor into a fiero... even though I'm unsure i can trust ford products, how reliable are 302's? You and I can work on it, and have a machine shop create adapter plates, and mounts, and sell them off.

There is prolly someone out there who has already put a Ford block in a Fiero, just not publisized (sp?) it. A lot of stuff people think will be "unique" to their car, has already been done.

Though some people will disagree, any motor can *theoretically* last forever with proper maintenece and operation. Example: my dad had a '86 Ford F250 6.9n/a diesel that had over 300,000 miles on it. Never been rebuilt. Biggest thing done was a new injector pump (external on motor). The body rotted off the frame so he bought a new '99 F-250SD with the 7.3 powerstroke.

The Ford 302 is a decent motor, though 350s can be built cheaper with more HP. Once again, I want to do the Ford 302/347'roker for the sound, not cost or power. If I want speed, I just hop on the R6. My cousin just got done putting a built 351 Cleveland into his '87T-top Mustang. ...that thing sounds mean. But my bike will still kick his arse

Anyways, lets get back to the original topic shall we?

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Here's a ford 400 small block, with a ford small block pattern (follow the smaller pattern)
http://members.tripod.com/lyc_42/fengpix1/fengpix1.htm

Edit: Go down the page till you find a rusty windsor 400...

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Sounds like a good idea, but be sure yuor buddy has permission to be doing this. I have heard of many a guy doing a small side business with the equipment from his job, almost always, if the boss/owner did not know about it, they were fired on the spot when found out.

Just something to keep in mind. If they don't care, rock on!

man, cheaper cradle bushings would be rad.. The possibilities here are quite numerous.. Things like interior trim.. around the heater/fan ducts.. around the shifter trim.. Mounts for gas hood/trunk mounts.. short throw shifters!

all this in canada, no hassle of duty or brokerage fees..

I'd even drive over to pick up the parts!

Edit: Aluminum suspension parts? that'd be kinda freaky unless you use the right kind of alloy.. Dont ferraris use aluminum suspension parts, with sealed ball bearings at the pivot points? Might be an idea

James Z

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- 2.8v6, 5spd
- no cat, msd ignition/coil, K&N

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i have to find you some engine mounts to copy! cause i dont know what im going to do for my3800SC swap
anyone have any ideas where i could get red some mounts to copy? or detailed pictures at least?
im running the 4 speed manual so i guess i wont need tranny mounts?
thanks, also ill find you a shift knob design sometime so you can craft me one up. would it have threads so it can be screwed on to the stock shifter?
thanks

aluminum heads and engine block please

quote Originally posted by Damien Vrice: aluminum heads and engine block please

hehe, that would be nice

are there any aluminum parts for the 2.8 engine? I would imagine that you could get more power outta that engine with some good performace parts... Im gonna do a search now for 2.8s that have been tweeked out if anyone would like to contribute to my knowledge post or PM me

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Shifer knobs would be factory spec. Using my 85's as a template for thread pitch and size. As for aluminum trim pieces I looked at my GT's shifter trim and I looks like a PITA to replicate. Especially where it is bolted down in the ashtray. Yes he has permission to build stuff for me from his boss. As long as we buy the materials and he builds them on his own time it is cool I think I will get him to make me a sample knob so you can see quality and such. That will be followed by aluminum cradle bushings. Then solid dogbones.If you can get me some sketches with measurements for youre 3800sc install I am sure we can work something out. I am qurious how you would mount them to the cradle since most guys weld in steel. Alt brackets will be a maybe if they arent to complicated. I can probably replicate most of the mounting brackets for A/C and outher acc. I will keep you posted on my progress. OH and if people are intersted in custom pistons LMK I thought about making them too.

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Just thought about something else. What about door sill plates? They should be fairly easy to make. They're just flat.

I thought there was someone making these? I can also have vent cover made too probably. They would be a bit to expensive for most prob around $500 for a set. To bad there isent any interst in aluminum pulleys I would have them made on a high speed CNC lathe so you know they are nice and straight to 10000 rpm lol.

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