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Meecham Side Scoops ? by fierogsmith
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Report this Post05-29-2003 04:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogsmithSend a Private Message to fierogsmithDirect Link to This Post
I was looking at Mona 76's thread on the different type of side scoops ,
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/029366.html

and saw where Skitime posted a picture of ( Meecham [SP?] ) Mecham Side Scoops . I did a search , but was unable to come up with any information on where I can get a set of these scoops . Ski mentioned that there was a company that is makeing some fiberglass knock-offs .

Does anyone know if there is a company makeing these scoops ?

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Report this Post05-29-2003 08:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
Do a search, but this time spell it: mecham
I don't know of anyone selling panels now. There was a company selling copies in Canada, but their website isn't up.
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Well, as I mentioned in my carbon fibre thread, I'm having someone make mecham-style scoops for me, if I can get some other people interested. It's too much money for a one-off, since this guy is really good. He says these scoops will look better than the original panels. I'm waiting to find a total cost on these. If enough people are interested, I can set up a group buy on them.

If someone else is making a good quality mecham-style, then let me know and I won't bother pursuing this. No point in re-inventing the wheel here...

Oh yea, forgot to mention... If enough people want something different, like an open scoop, let me know. If I was going to go with something completely different, I'd just buy Aus' Stage 2 or 3 scoops, but I can have these made differently. If I had the ca$h, I'd just get a completely one-off scoop made, but I'm more concerned about getting my engine fixed at the moment.

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One thing to note about Duck's (above) scoops - they're not JUST the scoops as I thought - they're entire replacement panels. No fiddling, gluing, shaping, fitting, etc. Install, Paint, Enjoy.

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I pulled molds from the original Mechams (Skitime's). I can have a set made if you can't find them anywhere else.
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Report this Post05-29-2003 09:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
Mechams side scoops were made from flexible urethane material just like the original Fiero panels. As such they won't crack or chip. There is probably a very expensive plastic mold somewhere out there that just needs to be cleaned and used. Perhaps we should try to locate this mold and have a run made. Certainly a fiberglas side scoop will look just as nice, but IMO the urethane material is far more durable. Does anyone know anything about the company that manufactured these scoops...location, people or person, that we could track down? .

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Mechams side scoops were made from flexible urethane material just like the original Fiero panels. As such they won't crack or chip. There is probably a very expensive plastic mold somewhere out there that just needs to be cleaned and used. Perhaps we should try to locate this mold and have a run made. Certainly a fiberglas side scoop will look just as nice, but IMO the urethane material is far more durable. Does anyone know anything about the company that manufactured these scoops...location, people or person, that we could track down? .

I believe the Mechams scoops were made with the Pontiac molds and the support of Pontiac.

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Report this Post05-29-2003 10:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 72vinmanSend a Private Message to 72vinmanDirect Link to This Post
I purchased mine from RaceTech in Toronto. They send them out to the US all the time.
Their phone number is 416-747-5728

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OREIF : Thanks for the heads up in regard to the proper spelling . Was able to find a couple of companies from a thread in the Archives from four years ago who at one time manufactured the Mecham Side Scoops .
1) Fiero Heaven
2) RC Motorsports
- no luck with either company .
Thanks .

Kris Duck : Appreciate the offer on a group buy , but like you said : " No sense re-inventing the wheel " . I'm going to get in touch with the company in Canada that 72Vinman mentioned . If that doesn't pan out , Rockcrawl says he already has a mold pulled from the Mecham Side Scopps ?

ROCKCRAWL : That's really a decent gesture . That's what makes PFF a great place to hang out . Like I mentioned to Kris Duck , if there is a company in Canada that still makes the Mecham Side Scoops that will solve the problem . Will let you know . Thank You .

DENNIS LaGRUA : As far as tracking down a company ? 72Vinman has given us a solid lead . Will post to this thread on any information I find out in regard to the Mecham Side Scoops .

SKITIME : See what you started . J/K . Thanks for posting a picture of your side scoops in Monza 76's thread . Look terrific .

72VINMAN : Thanks for posting the telephone number . I'll give them a call and see what the story is in regard to the Mecham Side Scoops . Hopefully they still make them .

NOTE : I gave everyone a + rateing for there help and input .

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I e-mailed racetech a couple weeks ago and they quoted me $275cdn for a set. I e-mailed them again this week to ask about payment methods but I didn't get a reply.

Here's a link to their old website:
www.thefieroshop.com/old

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If my memory is correct - the Mechem scoops were originally made by an ex govener of Arizona on a limited production set up. He went bankrupt and all his stuff ended up being distroyed.

I'm not sure on this but maybe somebody else heard this one also.

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Report this Post05-30-2003 11:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogsmithSend a Private Message to fierogsmithDirect Link to This Post
Hey Gang , Spoke to Joe at RaceTech Automotive Inc. in Canada this morning . Yes they are still makeing the Mecham style side scoops .

Price :
CDN : $275
USA : $200

Joe took the time to explain their manufactureing process to me . What they do is allow the fiberglass to " Cure " for a few days in the mold so that the product dosen't warp . He has one set on hand that is cured , if a few people order them it may take a couple of weeks to process all the orders . He said it's slower doing the fiberglass products this way but he won't sell inferior products .

Here is their Web Site :
http://racetechauto.com

The Web Site is still under construction , but contains the address and telephone number .

Found this thread in the " Archives " last night . It shows a large picture of the Race Tech / Mecham side scoops . Look pretty good .
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/026527.html

Thanks everyone for your help and input .

Gave everyone a + rateing .

Rockcrawl : Gave you a + rateing and your rateing bar showed up . Lookin Good !

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Originally posted by fierogsmith:

OREIF : Thanks for the heads up in regard to the proper spelling . Was able to find a couple of companies from a thread in the Archives from four years ago who at one time manufactured the Mecham Side Scoops .
1) Fiero Heaven
2) RC Motorsports
- no luck with either company .
Thanks .

Kris Duck : Appreciate the offer on a group buy , but like you said : " No sense re-inventing the wheel " . I'm going to get in touch with the company in Canada that 72Vinman mentioned . If that doesn't pan out , Rockcrawl says he already has a mold pulled from the Mecham Side Scopps ?

ROCKCRAWL : That's really a decent gesture . That's what makes PFF a great place to hang out . Like I mentioned to Kris Duck , if there is a company in Canada that still makes the Mecham Side Scoops that will solve the problem . Will let you know . Thank You .

DENNIS LaGRUA : As far as tracking down a company ? 72Vinman has given us a solid lead . Will post to this thread on any information I find out in regard to the Mecham Side Scoops .

SKITIME : See what you started . J/K . Thanks for posting a picture of your side scoops in Monza 76's thread . Look terrific .

72VINMAN : Thanks for posting the telephone number . I'll give them a call and see what the story is in regard to the Mecham Side Scoops . Hopefully they still make them .

NOTE : I gave everyone a + rateing for there help and input .

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Great reply on the post summarizing the comments of the participants. That scoop has always been my favorite. If you've ever seen it on a Fiero, the scoops look like they came from factory that way.
I would tend to agree with Skitime that the Mecham scoops may have been made using GM molds or GM authorized molds.
Fiberglas aftermarket parts are usually laid and formed in a mold by hand while Urethane parts are molded in an automated molding machine. I believe the process is similar to plastic injection molding.
Heck if located the tooling, after a setup you could run 100 of these side scoops in an hours time and they would be ready to paint with little prep; but again the question remains...where are the molds????

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Hey Dennis , good question in regard to who has the GM molds or GM authorized molds used in makeing the urethane side scoops ?

Frank Martin mentioned that he thought some ex- Governor from AZ had the molds / and or rights . But Rockcrawl posted a web site that is current from the Mecham Company . But no mention of any Fiero products .

I'm sure they are out there gathering dust some where . Like you said : " the question remains ...where are the molds " .

It's a mystery .

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Here is a picture of the RaceTech scoops mounted. Sorry its not the best picture.

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Ok, I like the RaceTech's.. Looks like our first candidate for an upgrade has found a winner

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Well, I was going to contact Mecham about the scoops, but their stupid website doesn't even list an email address. If someone that's local to that area code feels like calling them to see if they know anything about the scoops, we might be able to find the real thing!

It would be nice to get a run of urethane scoops made. I'm sure we could have twenty or more sold.

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I'm almost certain that the same Mecham Racing that built the Macho T/As also did the Fiero stuff. They are the same guys that are still in business as Mecham Performance at the link I posted above. I don't think GM had anything to do with the design or manufacturing of the Mecham scoops. The Mecham scoops were made from a softer, more flexible black urethane, not like the OEM parts, and the dimensions of the actual quarter panel were not exactly the same as OEM. If I were more interested in finding out, I'd give Mecham Performance a call and see what they have to say.
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Hey Gang :

72VINMAN ; There's nothing classier than a clean and polished black car . Sweet looking GT ! I really like the Mecham Side Scoops , they are the most aggressive looking side scoopes I've seen . Thanks for posting a picture of your ride with them installed . Really sets the car off nice !

FEYDAKIN ; First off let me WELCOME you to the Forum .There are some really great people here on the Forum who will try to help you if you run into any proplems .

I think it's a great idea to get your daughter to turn some wrenchs , especially if she wants to drive the Fiero . You picked the Fiero up for a great price . I tell all new Fiero owners to expect to put in about $800-1000 into their Fiero their first year of Fiero Ownership ,and thats if they do most of the work themselves . Enjoy your new Fiero .

KRIS DUCK ; I didn't notice that the Mecham web site did not have an e-mail address until you mentioned it .

I agree with you in that it would be nice to get a run of urethane scoops made .

ROCKCRAWL ; I too am fairly sure that Mecham Performance is the same company that made the side scoops .

The Suncoast Fiero Club adopted one mile of highway on both sides of the road . So today some of the club members are getting together to go pick up the trash along the highway . At least I'll get some exercise and sunshine . Maybe even talk some Fiero ?
Thanks for your help .

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Originally posted by Dragon:
Mechem scoops were originally made by an ex govener of Arizona on a limited production set up.........maybe somebody else heard this one also.

What Frank said. The govenor had a dealership too. He wanted to make his own "special edition" fiero with the scoops. He went bankrupt before the cars could ever be changed. About 500/pair of the scoops had already been produced. They were discarded in large piles, in the hot desert. Then, IRM comes along and buys every pair thats laying in the desert. IRM never owned the molds.

All above told to me by the founder of IRM....Jim Sutter. Every last pair was sold too. So, there's got to be some fieros out there with "true" Mechams.

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Now I remember where I heard that bit of Trivia before.

They are out therfe if your lucky to find them. I found a set on a 86 GT in a junk yard. They got added to Marianna's "White Horse"

Thanks Doug

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Hey Ski , Thanks for editing your post and adding a picture of the Mecham Side Scoops that you have installed on your Fiero .

Hey Doug and Frank , Thanks for the information . I'm always interested in any information concerning the history of our Fiero's .


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The new Mecham web site may be a dead end? It is the son of the gov but he was only doing newer Trans Ams as his father had done in the 1980's. There main stay in the 1980's was doing MSE [Mecham Special Edition] Trans Am. Not mush info out there on ther Fieros.

I was able to get Mecham Rear Bumper Ground FX from FOCA a few years ago. They were in poorly molded fiberglass but I was able to clean them up.

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Originally posted by fierogsmith:

Hey Ski , Thanks for editing your post and adding a picture of the Mecham Side Scoops that you have installed on your Fiero .

You are welcome. I just figured that there should be a pic of the scoop for those that might not know what we are talking about.

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I bought a set of them (copies) overhere. But I have modified them by cutting the 2 little fins out and "smooth" them.

I think now they have a less "eighties" look and I like to do everything to my own taste anyway
pictures when the GTR is ready!

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Originally posted by Fie Ro:

I bought a set of them (copies) overhere. But I have modified them by cutting the 2 little fins out and "smooth" them.

I think now they have a less "eighties" look and I like to do everything to my own taste anyway
pictures when the GTR is ready!

Hey FIE RO , When you get the chance please post a picture of your scoops .Thanks .
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