Ok, I was just watching a movie called Mischief 3000 and while I was watching a few Porsche 911's fly by at about 180mph I thought to myself...How badass would it be to put a Porsche Turbo or twin turbo v6 in the Fiero! I figure that both engines are designed to fit in a small space and they are both set up for a transaxel too, now firstly I know that the Porsche engine is very expensive and I am not quite sure what to do about the transmission and mounts but with all the thousands some of you guys spend I think it would be an amazing feat, anyway I want to know if you guys think this is just too outrageuos to work and what you think about it?
In the meantime I will try to find some pics of the engine in and out of the car...
Thanks for your input--Nathan

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I figure with the price for the engine, transaxle, computer systems, crating and shipping to US, all custom parts involved in the swap, final tuning, you could just buy a porsche 911

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--Adam--
1987 Blue GT 5-speed
IM AOL: GTFiero
Remember, always brush your milk, drink your teeth, dont do sleep and get eight hours of drugs

Drive it like you stole it...nice and slow so you dont get your @$$ caught by the cops

Even a better idea,just go with a 3.8 SC and have enough power for what ever you wanna do. And spend wayyyyyyyy less then trying to put a 911 motor in a fiero. Around 5 k and you can have all the power you need.

Also keeping in mind that you can reliably run about 650hp out of a well tuned stock 911 motor...Also no shipping to the U.S. would be needed just try to find a Porsche that had a head on collision or something, but GT1Fiero good piont about the chip never thought of that but thats why you guys are here!! thanks and I hope this isn't all the comments I get
laqute--Nathan

You need some hard numbers. Porsche motors are flat sixes, not a "V" configuration. You could use the Porsche transmission. Either eliminate the trunk and run it rear-engine (911 style) or better yet flip it and run it mid-engine (Boxster) style. Again you need specs to see if the engine will fit between the wheels, and if the engine will fit in the bay without stretching the car (for mid-engine layout).

I'll bet you can pic up a used Porshce motor and tranny for a reasonable (for what it is) price. Of course this is going to cost you much more than the typical American engine swap, and you won't have the technical support of others who have traveled the same road, but you would be going boldly where no man has gone before - hehehe. You would be in the Fiero Hall of Fame!

As for the electronics, there is someone somewhere who could hack the Porsche ECM. If all else fails there are aftermarket stand alone systems. It all depends on your budget and/or personal skills. My motto is anything is possible, the question is whether or not it's feasible for you???

perk

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If you have the money i'll sell you this 625hp@640ftlb of torque 300ZX.

quote Originally posted by Speedlogic: If you have the money i'll sell you this 625hp@640ftlb of torque 300ZX.

I suspect that might not fit in a fiero without using a very big shoe horn. lol

This is a V6 it looks big because it is a closeup .

quote Originally posted by perkidelic: You need some hard numbers. Porsche motors are flat sixes, not a "V" configuration. You could use the Porsche transmission. Either eliminate the trunk and run it rear-engine (911 style) or better yet flip it and run it mid-engine (Boxster) style. Again you need specs to see if the engine will fit between the wheels, and if the engine will fit in the bay without stretching the car (for mid-engine layout). I'll bet you can pic up a used Porshce motor and tranny for a reasonable (for what it is) price. Of course this is going to cost you much more than the typical American engine swap, and you won't have the technical support of others who have traveled the same road, but you would be going boldly where no man has gone before - hehehe. You would be in the Fiero Hall of Fame! As for the electronics, there is someone somewhere who could hack the Porsche ECM. If all else fails there are aftermarket stand alone systems. It all depends on your budget and/or personal skills. My motto is anything is possible, the question is whether or not it's feasible for you??? perk

A porsche engine and transmisson....at a reasonable price????

hahaha. We just had to replace the B&B Triflow exhaust on our 911 RS-A (94) so that the car would pass emmissions. Unfortunatley the car has been a track star all it's life , therefore the original exhaust was long gone and replaced with the B&B heat exchangrs and headers. With the B&B system the car was producing 3 times the legal limit of toxins.

We took the car to have the exhaust swapped back over to an original setup.. 1 week and $4500 ..yes $4500 later it has a new original exhaust. Add that to what the original cost of the B&B system was and you have around $9000 in exahust systems alone.

As for hacking the computer. It's not quite as easy as you would like to think. Typically porsche owners don't attempt to "hack" anything , they get a motec either a preprogrammed setup like we have Stage 4 "trackmaster" or they get a programmable setup. look to be spending another $5G's on even the most basic , used Motec prgrammable unit.

Now lets look at transaxles. 901 is out , it will puke , the synchros are weak. 915's are good expect to pay more if you want a LSD. the G50 is the best setup in the used realm , your looking at around $3500-$5000 depending on the condition. Our car is equiped with a LSD , look to pay more for a clean G50 with an LSD.

engines... range from 2.0ltr to 3.6 in the US modles , all the way up to 3.8's in the Euro spec cars. 3.8 Kits are available for another 6G's alone for a basic kit , add to that installation and machining costs (another 5 grand). It's not a small block chevy folks , it's hard to work on. Even the cheapest 2.0ltr worn out zeinth carb'd 2Ltr is going to fetch around $1800. want a low mile 3.6 varioram engine..Get out your cheque book your paying at least 10 Grand.

The clutch pack is worth a grand.

Take into accountn what it will cost and it's not worth it. Get a 3.8SC and have a nice day.

Porsche's are a love hate relationship. engine services (normal) are around $1200 , they take on average 11 quarts of oil.

JM

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Jonathan McCreery

I WE TODD DID , I SOFA KING WE TODD DID.

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It does sound like you would be better off with the 3800SC if you have to go 6 cylinder.. you could probably build 2 of those for the price of one of those Porsche motor setups. I Had my share of fun with the flat six's a few years ago. It was one of those lil classic fiberglass dune buggys, it had a tweaked corvair flat 6 with a nice healthy sized Turbo charger @ 10 psi and a 4 speed! This thing only weighed about 1600 lbs if that, and had some nice t-bucket style 14" inch wide tires in the rear, launches were just totally insane, it would just about rip your head off at your shoulders and pull the front wheels in first and second gear with no wheel spin! it probably could have gone door to door with FieroX's for about a 1/8th mile .. Butttt the areodynamics totally sucked on it, the front end liked to start lifting off the ground at about 85mph cause of those big scoopy style front fenders.. lol but oh well it wasnt built for top end anyways

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