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A question for Getrag gooroohs by David DeVoe
Started on: 10-29-2002 10:17 AM
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Last post by: litespd on 10-30-2002 11:15 PM
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Report this Post10-29-2002 10:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for David DeVoeSend a Private Message to David DeVoeDirect Link to This Post
Talking to a dumba## who tells me the Fiero never was offered with the Getrag, tells me I'm full of sh#t, etc. So I got to wondering....just how many Fieros were produced with the Getrag, and what year was the option first available. Does anyone know for sure?
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Report this Post10-29-2002 10:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for tesmith66Send a Private Message to tesmith66Direct Link to This Post
It was first offered in mid 1986 in the GT. It was the only 5 speed available behind the V6 from mid 86 thru the end of production in 88.

FYI: The 4 speed was only available in all 84 models and behind the v6 in the first half of 85. The Isuzu 5 speed appeared in 1985 and ran thru the end of production. It was only available behind the 4 cyl.

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong, or add more details. We need to set this dumba## straight.

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Report this Post10-29-2002 10:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for voyagerspeSend a Private Message to voyagerspeDirect Link to This Post
This dumb#%$ might be confused because it was designed by getrag but built by muncie.
In my rebuild manual on the cover it says "muncie/getrag 282" also if you go to a gm dealer and look in there micofilm it is listed as a muncie.
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Report this Post10-29-2002 10:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for VoytekSend a Private Message to VoytekDirect Link to This Post
What's a goorooh?

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Report this Post10-29-2002 12:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
Guru.
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Report this Post10-29-2002 06:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ToddsterSend a Private Message to ToddsterDirect Link to This Post
Here is the GETRAG low-down.

The MG-282 was originally conceived and designed for the Pontiac 6000-STE and a few other FWD cars. Coincidentally it fit nicely into the Fiero and since consumers had been complaining about the original 4-speed gearbox since day 1, Fiero execs jumped on the bandwagon. The bad news was that development at Getrag took a long time and the Tranny would not be available until June 1986 for introduction into the LAST FEW 1986 GT models produced in June, July, and August of that year. These car are often refered to as 1986 1/2 models. The Getrag was the standard tranny for the V-6 Fiero through the rest of it's production with NO variation in the design. An '86 1/2 MG-282 will bolt into an '87 or '88 with no mods.

Synchronizer problems pushed development out to 18 months, 6 months longer than planned. Pontiac sublet the manufacture of the Getrag design to Muncie, hence the Muncie/Getrag name.

In 1986, 28.6% of the Fieros produced included a 5-speed (getrag and Isuzu combined). that ia 24,017. Since there were only 17,660 GTs built in 1986 I estimate that only 5,050 '86 Fieros had Getrags.

In 1987, 45.4% of Fieros came with 5-speeds. That come out to 21,148 5-speeds total. There were 3875 SE models and 15,968 models with V-6 engines so we are looking at an estimated 9,009 Getrags in '87

And in 1988, 52.4% of all Fieros came with 5-speeds. 6848 GTs and 5475 Formulas totalling 6457 Getrags for that year.

Grand total = estimated 20,516 Getrags found their way into Fieros.

.....Not that I am a Guru or anything

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Report this Post10-29-2002 09:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for skitimeSend a Private Message to skitimeDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Toddster:
Here is the GETRAG low-down.

.....Not that I am a Guru or anything


Todd that is GURU type info so you are a guru. Thanks for the info.

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Report this Post10-30-2002 12:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JEDISend a Private Message to JEDIDirect Link to This Post
I thought that all GT models came with Getrags?
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Report this Post10-30-2002 12:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for David DeVoeSend a Private Message to David DeVoeDirect Link to This Post
Yes, thanks for the info Toddster. I will joyfully beat this a..hole over the head with your numbers although I doubt that anything can penetrate. He's one of these don't confuse me with facts kinda guys. I'm sure you've all met one at one time or another. Thanks again for the information.
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Report this Post10-30-2002 12:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ToddsterSend a Private Message to ToddsterDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by JEDI:
I thought that all GT models came with Getrags?

They did...unless they had an automatic of course.

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Report this Post10-30-2002 11:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for litespdSend a Private Message to litespdDirect Link to This Post
A few 86 SE's made it out the door with a Getrag, too. My son's SE had one...the RPO sticker on the wheelwell confirmed it. And not all GT's came with the Getrag. The 85 GT's had the Muncie 4 speed, as did the early 86 GT's, as stated above by our resident "Getrag Guru"..


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