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Whats a DSM? by Fiero*101
Started on: 09-29-2002 10:51 PM
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Report this Post09-29-2002 10:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero*101Send a Private Message to Fiero*101Direct Link to This Post
I hear this term alot sombody told me that my Eclipse is a DSM
what is it? whats a DSM?
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Report this Post09-29-2002 11:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fropuffSend a Private Message to fropuffDirect Link to This Post
If I'm not mistaken (which I don't think I am this time), it means Diamond Star Motors. I believe it includes the Eclipse, Talon, Laser, and Galant VR4. Nice choice, if I do say so myself.
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Not to be rude but you might try going to Yahoo or something and doing a search for DSM. I expect that any minute now you're gonna get flamed for asking that question on a Fiero forum. DSM stands for Diamond Star Motors, it's a gathering of Chysler and Mitsubishi..for cars like Mitsu 3000Gt/Dodge Stealth and Plymouth Laser/Mitsu Eclipse/Eagle Talon. There are like a million Eclipse/DSM forums on the net.

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It's a f*ckin awsome car that rules over all sport compacts.

2G cars are considered DSMs because they are direct descendants of the original DSM cars. Although they were technically not built by Diamond Star Motors, their connection to the original line is unmistakable, as they share the name, trim levels and original intention of the 1G cars.

Also, some early 95 cars have DSM labeling on them, leading many to believe that all 2Gs were built by Diamond Star Motors. This is not the case, as Diamond Star Motors officially ceased to exist in mid-1993, when Chrysler sold off all of its Mitsubishi holdings, technically making the 1994 cars the last of the DSMs. This type of hair-splitting is not important for Club purposes, however, and the Club has decided that 2Gers have as much right to be included as earlier owners.

The Galant VR-4 is something of an oddity in the club, but the VR-4 shares many important components with the 1G cars, including the unusual AWD drivetrain. A similar situation exists with the 2G Spyder convertible, but it's connection with the other 2G cars is unmistakable. Thus the Spyder and VR4 are included in the scope of the Talon Digest.

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Report this Post09-30-2002 05:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero*101Send a Private Message to Fiero*101Direct Link to This Post
Not to be rude back
but i did do a search and i wasnt sure if what i was reading was correct or not.
You know i dont believe any body should get flamed for asking a damn ? i mean seriously every ? i have ever asked i got nice and to the point responces(sp?)
why is it that i ask a ? about a Mitsubishi and i get flamed or get rude coments?
Im sorry for leaving the Fiero but all i have had with it was problems i will get another one some day but right now its not the car i want right now.
I dont plan on leaving the forum just b/c i got a diff car i see alot of people on here that has different cars then the Fiero you guys and girls have helped me more then any body has in the last year and i thank you for that but please dont think bad of me for wanting to go import.
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Report this Post09-30-2002 06:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GTFiero1Send a Private Message to GTFiero1Direct Link to This Post
DSM- Dumb Stupid Machines

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DSM--------> Damn Smoking Machine...

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Originally posted by Fiero*101:
Not to be rude back
but i did do a search and i wasnt sure if what i was reading was correct or not.
You know i dont believe any body should get flamed for asking a damn ? i mean seriously every ? i have ever asked i got nice and to the point responces(sp?)
why is it that i ask a ? about a Mitsubishi and i get flamed or get rude coments?
Im sorry for leaving the Fiero but all i have had with it was problems i will get another one some day but right now its not the car i want right now.
I dont plan on leaving the forum just b/c i got a diff car i see alot of people on here that has different cars then the Fiero you guys and girls have helped me more then any body has in the last year and i thank you for that but please dont think bad of me for wanting to go import.
Thank you
Fiero*101

Go here and your ask your questions.

http://216.97.102.197/forum/index.php

Or ask them in off topic maybe. This is a Fiero Forum, not an all car forum.

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Report this Post09-30-2002 07:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TRiADSend a Private Message to TRiADDirect Link to This Post
TONS of mis-information.

DSM is Diamond-Star Motors, which WAS a collaboration between Mitsubishi Motors and Chrysler, which was realized in the form of the DSM plant in Normal, Illinois. (20 minutes from my home).

Built at DSM were:
* Mitsubishi Eclipse, Plymouth Laser/Eagle Talon.
The Eclipse was the only one offered outside the US, and all the Eclipses wordwide were built here. Japan, Aus and Europe only got Turbo FWD cars, no AWD.
* Mitsubishi Galant (non-turbo FWD ONLY, all parts of the world)
All the turbo, AWD and AWD turbo Galants were made in Japan.
* Chrysler Sebring.
* Dodge Avenger.
* The lineup has changed some since, but that was through 1995 or so.

The plant was bought wholly by Mitsubishi (per the original arrangement) in late 1994, NOT in 1993. I was working there at the time.

The Stealth/3000GT have never been made in the US, and were never "DSM" cars.

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Report this Post09-30-2002 07:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Hairy_FieroSend a Private Message to Hairy_FieroDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Jaei Sun:
It's a f*ckin awsome car that rules over all sport compacts.

2G cars are considered DSMs because they are direct descendants of the original DSM cars. Although they were technically not built by Diamond Star Motors, their connection to the original line is unmistakable, as they share the name, trim levels and original intention of the 1G cars.

Also, some early 95 cars have DSM labeling on them, leading many to believe that all 2Gs were built by Diamond Star Motors. This is not the case, as Diamond Star Motors officially ceased to exist in mid-1993, when Chrysler sold off all of its Mitsubishi holdings, technically making the 1994 cars the last of the DSMs. This type of hair-splitting is not important for Club purposes, however, and the Club has decided that 2Gers have as much right to be included as earlier owners.

The Galant VR-4 is something of an oddity in the club, but the VR-4 shares many important components with the 1G cars, including the unusual AWD drivetrain. A similar situation exists with the 2G Spyder convertible, but it's connection with the other 2G cars is unmistakable. Thus the Spyder and VR4 are included in the scope of the Talon Digest.

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http://members.shaw.ca/costall/1000Q/answers-makeandmodel.htm

Just link him to the Talon Digest where you got the information word for word.

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Report this Post09-30-2002 07:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
Someone beat me to it, but this should have been posted in the OT section. They are nice cars, though, but I'll take RWD over AWD any day.
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Originally posted by TRiAD:
[b]TONS of mis-information.

DSM is Diamond-Star Motors, which WAS a collaboration between Mitsubishi Motors and Chrysler, which was realized in the form of the DSM plant in Normal, Illinois. (20 minutes from my home).

Built at DSM were:
* Mitsubishi Eclipse, Plymouth Laser/Eagle Talon.
The Eclipse was the only one offered outside the US, and all the Eclipses wordwide were built here. Japan, Aus and Europe only got Turbo FWD cars, no AWD.
* Mitsubishi Galant (non-turbo FWD ONLY, all parts of the world)
All the turbo, AWD and AWD turbo Galants were made in Japan.
* Chrysler Sebring.
* Dodge Avenger.
* The lineup has changed some since, but that was through 1995 or so.

The plant was bought wholly by Mitsubishi (per the original arrangement) in late 1994, NOT in 1993. I was working there at the time.

The Stealth/3000GT have never been made in the US, and were never "DSM" cars.

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Thats what I have! a 91 FWD Mitsubishi Galant Non Turbo!! it only runs about 16.5 in the wuarter...but its an allright car. if you dont mind massive understeer at times

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