Below are some quick spy pics of a header system made to integrate the exhaust system of a V-8 into any year Fiero. These are some interesting pics.....

ample clearance for the transmission, while still allowing stock routing of the exhaust system

firewall side header - theres even room to get to your spark plugs and to let the plug wires breath

trunk side header, clearance for the axle while still moderately equal length

here is the crossover tube with a lower colector missing that will be afixed tomorrow - plenty of room

For any questions regarding this header system contact us at sales@westcoastfiero or 310-305-4111

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( the above was the thoughts, views, and opinions of a disgruntled Fiero mechanic, and do not express or
imply those of West Coast Fiero, Fieros West, or any other organization - just that of this poor
bastard ) :)

Eric Nelson
Technician,
West Coast Fiero
310-305-4111

Hmmmm, moving into the V8 market? You guys confuse the $hit out of me.

Rob D.

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Modified 2.8 (Soon to be a 383 V8 )
2.5" Drop
11" Brakes
17" Revolutions
RCC Coilover Suspension

Grand! Another idea I had was to use the Sanderson block hugger headers and then run the exhast pipe similar to yours. Not sure if there would be enough room for a 90* bend to get the piping in the right place.

Looks good, though.

Anything in the plans for the 4.9? That will actually increase performance I mean...

quote Originally posted by chester: Hmmmm, moving into the V8 market? You guys confuse the $hit out of me. Rob D.

hehehe - weve always got something cooking around here

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( the above was the thoughts, views, and opinions of a disgruntled Fiero mechanic, and do not express or
imply those of West Coast Fiero, Fieros West, or any other organization - just that of this poor
bastard ) :)

Eric Nelson
Technician,
West Coast Fiero
310-305-4111

Looks great, but I'm scared to ask, how much? I'd like some WCF headers to go with my Spin-Tech.

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Dan
1985 Silver GT

400HP LT1 Conversion has begun......

They would be within the same price range as that of the 3800 headers that we offer

I like the looks of the back header but the front one could stand some revisions. It looks like a tangled mess. Any way to make the front header (the one with the most visibility) look a little neater? Kinda like the rear one? Or is there a clearance issue?

Rob D.

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Modified 2.8 (Soon to be a 383 V8 )
2.5" Drop
11" Brakes
17" Revolutions
RCC Coilover Suspension

What are the sizes of the:
primary tubes
collector diameter
pipes connected to the headers

Lookin good...

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Andrew MacPherson
86 2M6 - Stock
82 Z28 - Mod'd to the nuts
86 Firebrid - Beater

I hope that comes standard with header wrap or ceramic coating. It looks good in design, but in reality you would be bringing a lot of heat to the surface of the engine bay where lots of important things are like the distributer, wires, intake and air cleaner assembly. I would seriously consider purchasing some if I were building another V8 Fiero. Even though I disagree with the design, with V8 Fiero conversions.......anything goes as long as you can make it fit and not melt anything.

west coast...way to use PFF as a base for advertisement, im sure no one wants your stuff. Especially after the comments made in the v8 archie post.

Just a little O/T..

Hey West Coast Fiero,
Your web address doesn't work.

"The page cannot be displayed"
http://www.cwestco.com/

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ClassicFiero.com

That's because it's www.westcoastfiero.com He hasn't changed the link in his sig yet.

I'm just wondering why the tubing on the trunk side header isn't laid out like the firewall side one.

quote Originally posted by chester: I like the looks of the back header but the front one could stand some revisions. It looks like a tangled mess. Any way to make the front header (the one with the most visibility) look a little neater? Kinda like the rear one? Or is there a clearance issue? Rob D.

big clearance issue - the axle, the VSS, and the VSS wiring, not to mention we wanted a little spacing between the tubes to be able to let the spark plug wires breath a bit

[This message has been edited by West Coast Fiero (edited 06-12-2002).]

...hmmm...I thought the whole point of having headers was that the exhaust path was to be the same length for all cylinders (for equal pressure)?!?!?!???

...just my .02 cents

Tim

Those look pretty darn sweet, untill you examine them, and are familiar with the various V8 kits out there, and how they fit in the engine bay.

I see 4 areas of concern that would make me think they will not work in my V8 car.

Not that I mean they woun't work, more work without any issues.

Not to shoot them down, I hope they do get these things sorted out. I would have to see some testing results before I would commit to those.

Eric, do you have any pictures with those installed in a car?

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[This message has been edited by jelly2m8 (edited 06-12-2002).]

No pics just yet, as soon as we have our remote water pump we will begin our V-8 ki.................... nevermind, I'll wait till it's done

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( the above was the thoughts, views, and opinions of a disgruntled Fiero mechanic, and do not express or
imply those of West Coast Fiero, Fieros West, or any other organization - just that of this poor
bastard ) :)

Eric Nelson
Technician,
West Coast Fiero
310-305-4111

quote Originally posted by fieroman84: west coast...way to use PFF as a base for advertisement, im sure no one wants your stuff. Especially after the comments made in the v8 archie post.

Awww be quiet. I'm not defending WCF when they feel the need to bash Archie's products, especially when their approaches to more Fiero power don't really compete with each other, but this is exactly the place to advertise new stuff.

If you make a good product, I will buy it if I need it, and this is the place I come to find new products.

Thanks for making the products that you do. I think that there is a bigger market for the 2.5 "Duke" header, I know that a lot of us duke guys would love to have a sorce to get a header. Any plans on making one in the $150-200 price range for the duke???

Thanks

Rob

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"DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT"

How about us folks in California...we need the AIR injectors to be legal...any plans for that? BTW, I like the routing design because it's so close to the original Fiero system that the smog refs would be more inclined to accept it.

[This message has been edited by exspook (edited 06-12-2002).]

Has there been any sort of verified Dyno-testing or tuning on these WCF headers? sounds like a pretty good hunk of change for a exhaust system only to find out its good for a small HP gain and alot of noise.

I'd like to see that rear header installed on a v8 in a Fiero before I make a decision on this one.
What I really want to know is how you got that engine on the engine stand with the transaxle attached. I can't say I remember seeing that before.

now THAT is a helluva question ! i was wondering the same thing myself. as it sits in the picture, i'll bet that engine is in quite a bit of stress. if it sits like that for long it might warp the block. especially with the tranny bolted on.

i'll agree.....after i see it in the car and also see what happens after it idles for about 30 minutes then its design is proven.

I doubt that it would warp the block, but if there's only 2 bolts threaded in, one of them might break or pull the treads out of the block. If I tried to do that, I'd break my cheap engine stand.

WCF, What size tubing is the crossover pipe?

3/8 bolts look like they are going into the head. Even low grade 3/8 bolts have a tensile strength in the neighborhood of 5000lb. No worries as long as its not cantelevered off the two bolts alone, and it looks like there is a third on the filter side down low.

quote Originally posted by qwikgta: Thanks for making the products that you do. I think that there is a bigger market for the 2.5 "Duke" header, I know that a lot of us duke guys would love to have a sorce to get a header. Any plans on making one in the $150-200 price range for the duke??? Thanks Rob

Get a block hugger header for a SBC from any performance company, they are suppose to work for the duke

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Adam
1987 Blue GT 5-speed
3.8 swap starting soon
IM AOL: GTFiero

quote Originally posted by exspook: How about us folks in California...we need the AIR injectors to be legal...any plans for that?

Well, according to Eric at West Coast Fiero in an earlier post, a V8 Fiero isn't legal in California no matter what you do. I don't believe that's the currently widely held opinion, though.