lol...Just heard a comercial on the radio for Autozone. It said they have tyhe new mufflers that light up! man. Talk about ricy!. Now I know what to look for when I got cruiseing!
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Originally posted by DR650SE: lol...Just heard a comercial on the radio for Autozone. It said they have tyhe new mufflers that light up! man. Talk about ricy!. Now I know what to look for when I got cruiseing!
Yea.. I saw them there about 2 weeks ago.. They look like garbage.. Just another waste of money..
LIGHT UP MUFFLERS? Sheesh. I saw the ones that "flame" when you push a button.
Anyone else here HATE those stupid LEDS that people put on the washer-fluid squirters on their hoods? First they were blue. Then red. even green. now, they friggin' BLINK different colors, for ^%$^%$#^ sake!!!! I'm not even sure WHY I hate them so much, perhaps it is because they guys who have them also sport those mis-aimed SUPER SUPER brite fog lights, and drive like their IQ's match their shoe size. At least they make the LED things cheaply - I saw four cars with only one of them working tonight.
Originally posted by FieroRumor: Anyone else here HATE those stupid LEDS that people put on the washer-fluid squirters on their hoods? First they were blue. Then red. even green. now, they friggin' BLINK different colors, for ^%$^%$#^ sake!!!! I'm not even sure WHY I hate them so much, perhaps it is because they guys who have them also sport those mis-aimed SUPER SUPER brite fog lights, and drive like their IQ's match their shoe size. At least they make the LED things cheaply - I saw four cars with only one of them working tonight.
I REALLY hate those.. Its so tacky looking.. Just another tasteless bolt-on for the drones..
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01:30 AM
RacinRob Member
Posts: 1288 From: Eau Claire, WI Registered: Mar 2001
Probably gonna get flamed for this but here goes. I would actually like to get my car to shoot flames like the way they used to do it in the 50's Old grease movies, batmobile style ya know? Anyone know how to do it? Get flames out of the tailpipes? Ricers that I have encountered are very careful around me so far. Only 1 has tried. Took a honda civic with a turbo by 5 pole lengths before I let off and didnt even bother to downshift. Flames would be a great touch I think. Ok I am ducking behind my flame barrier now. HIOSILVER! 85 Coupe V8
so far I've been lucky enough to never see any of these particular mods in person..
but what really bothers me, is the strobe light that's on top of school buses. come on, if you're not gonna miss a huge yellow object, what are the chances a blinking light will make a difference? all they do is give me a headache. the bus drivers around here (some of them at least) have this habit of putting their flashers on 300+ feet before they stop, and since they stop every 500 feet on the road I go to work on.... I often get stuck behind them for several minutes until I can pass.
it makes me feel sick, I can't imagine what those things to do epileptics......
Originally posted by HIOSILVER!: Probably gonna get flamed for this but here goes. I would actually like to get my car to shoot flames like the way they used to do it in the 50's Old grease movies, batmobile style ya know? Anyone know how to do it? Get flames out of the tailpipes? Ricers that I have encountered are very careful around me so far. Only 1 has tried. Took a honda civic with a turbo by 5 pole lengths before I let off and didnt even bother to downshift. Flames would be a great touch I think. Ok I am ducking behind my flame barrier now. HIOSILVER! 85 Coupe V8
I think the way to do that is with spark plugs hooked up to a power switch and puting the spark plugs in the exhaust pipes. At least thats what somone told me. I think i'd be cool to have. Anyone else know for sure? I'll as in the tech section.
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Tigger Member
Posts: 4368 From: Flint, MI USA Registered: Sep 2000
I've done a little research on flame throwers before(for my classic p/u) and there are 2 basic ways to do it but one is really prefered and much safer(I won't even describe the other way). What I would consider to be the 'proper' way to do this involves basically setting up a device to "stall" the motor for very short periods of time but leave the motor still 'running'(freewheeling). This pushes raw fuel out the tailpipe where it can be ignited by diverting the spark briefly from the motor to the tailpipe. This can be done in short "blips" so the motor does not fully stall. The advantages to this system are many. Obviously there is little chance of this system causing any type of explosions or bad fire as the fuel supply can not be constant(and should not be set up so it can be)to the tailpipe nor will the system work when the motor is not running(motor stalls,system stops). The motor must be running and that alone provides the force to eject fuel/flames from the tail pipe. This also does not involved "richening" the carb or fuel system which seems to be another of the urban legends you hear regarding how this is done. When the system is not activated the motor runs completely normally with regular fuel (in)efficiency lol. I am not too sure how well this would work with FI but with a carb thats basically how it works. There are web sites that explain the proceedure and a few companies that make kits. I would definatly NOT recommend installing a spark plug and a fuel injector in the tail pipe as is often descibed as this is NOT very safe nor the way I understand the "origional" hot rodders did it. There were some other methods I found that worked but I believe the one described above would be the safest and really pretty easy. The biggest challenge is figuring out how to divert the spark or making a small unit to develop it for you during the brief periods you want spark "at the back", not in the motor. I'm going to try this on my truck eventually but I have to get the rest finished first! Lots of info on the web about this though if you look, and I have to say some pretty darn cool pics/video too!
Whoooops, I almost forgot one important thing to remember! Raw fuel is veeeerry bad for your cat(s) so if you're going to do this you'll want to remove it/them and that in itself will likely be illegal in most places, never mind the flame throwers! I don't have that problem with my '50 pu thank god, hehe Cheers.....
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11:28 AM
Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
One thing you need to take into consideration today is the catalytic converter. That raw fuel that's going out the pipe has to go through the converter. That could make it harder or impossible to get a good fuel source at the tailpipe, and it may damage the converter over time. I don't know for sure, but I'd definately research this, since the old cars didn't have to worry about this.
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11:42 AM
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85GToronto Member
Posts: 927 From: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada Registered: Dec 2001
I love the flames coming out of the exhaust. I think it would be the ultimate addition to a fiero
Just thing; you just beat a fully riced civic, and now you turn the flame throwers on, that should teach him not to mess with american muscle! (Also works well for tailgaters).
I have heard of people using a propane tank in the trunk (for us it would have to be a small one). And putting a spark plug in the exhaust, don't know how well this works.
Could you post the link to the websites with the instructions.
Anyone have any idea of cost of doing it the way described above?
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11:53 AM
chester Member
Posts: 4063 From: State of insanity...moved in and comfortably numb... Registered: Jun 2001
Originally posted by HIOSILVER!: Probably gonna get flamed for this but here goes. I would actually like to get my car to shoot flames like the way they used to do it in the 50's Old grease movies, batmobile style ya know? Anyone know how to do it? Get flames out of the tailpipes? Ricers that I have encountered are very careful around me so far. Only 1 has tried. Took a honda civic with a turbo by 5 pole lengths before I let off and didnt even bother to downshift. Flames would be a great touch I think. Ok I am ducking behind my flame barrier now. HIOSILVER! 85 Coupe V8
Hey bud,
Good to see that you FINALLY made it on here. Put a sig pic of your ride up!
As for the neon accents... I'd like to install undercar neon lights & I've already got the LED tire stems. Yes, it can be distracting- but isn't that the point? To get noticed while cruising?
hey DR650 can you save the picture on another server somewhere if you can manage that? my server is gettin kinda hammered and i dont have the bandwith and what lil bandwith i have usually ends up at the store front...thanks man if you need help on that let me know i give ya a hand okay.. sorry. that picture is actually coming from a computer in my closet hehe =)
Originally posted by jubjub2m6: hey DR650 can you save the picture on another server somewhere if you can manage that? my server is gettin kinda hammered and i dont have the bandwith and what lil bandwith i have usually ends up at the store front...thanks man if you need help on that let me know i give ya a hand okay.. sorry. that picture is actually coming from a computer in my closet hehe =)
Thanks, as of yet it may be quite a while till i can get it done, if i decide to do it. Thanks anyway though. I will let you know if I do decide to.
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01:35 PM
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Posts: 4667 From: St. Cloud, MN Registered: Apr 99
Dan R that sounds like an even more dangerous way to do it than the ways I saw! lol I wouldn't think remotely controllable valves to dispense propane would be very cheap much less 100% reliable and safe(especially if they were cheap). You sure wouldn't want a huge cloud of propane around your car due to a leaking valve. Not to mention that system would have to be highly illegal I am sure. The kits I saw online to do it the way I described were only about $80us and that is basically the module to stop the motor briefly and divert the spark. You still had to add the coil(s), plug(s) and the plug wire(s). As I said I have no idea how that system would work on a FI motor and the cat would (likely) have to be removed. In other words I don't think its very suitable for a daily driver Fiero. You don't have to search very long on the net before you find pics,kits and some crazy a@@ video's!! Propane sounds like a very bad idea to me....
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03:39 PM
KillerX Member
Posts: 736 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2001
Iv got underground green lights and they look amazing on fieros! they come out really far and every1 can see them...i had them on my lumina but it wasent as good at the fiero...only adds a couple of lbs too so not that bad when raceing plus I pick up chicks with em...ha ha ha speaking of pickin up chicks i put a big sticker on my back window saying "Its not the looks that get you the girls, its the performance" he he he i may take it off tho...he he he show thouse ricers whos boss...
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Mark Matthews Member
Posts: 537 From: Las Vegas, NV, USA Registered: Nov 2001
I almost did this when I had my old Land Cruiser. I put that darn link somewhere....
I don't know how it will work with our newer cars, with cat's and all. But with the old Land Cruiser since not everything was burned up you just built a spark plug mount about 4-6 inches from the end of the exhaust tips. The switch should be a button not a lever so it can't get a constant current. With the LC you could get about a 6 foot flame shootin out the back. I'll have to see if I can find that link now
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06:22 PM
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Fierowrecker Member
Posts: 1858 From: Lowell, MI. USA Registered: Mar 2001
One bad thing about enriching the exhaust system is, when the engine starts running again, you can blow off the muffler... Been there done that! But it sure wakes up the dummies on the road!!!
Unless the engine is pumping a high volume of air (full throttle), the flames don't shoot out very far...
Injecting fuel 2 or 3 feet before the exhaust tips, with a spark plug 6 to 8 inches before the tips work, but you want to use a small nossle and GOOD fuel lines and valve... Just don't press the button unless you are at WOT...
BTW, I use a Ford Model T spark coil...
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07:44 PM
fierosound Member
Posts: 15253 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
Please dont use propane!! Its not done by stalling or anything like what has been described here. Nor is it done using a switch alone. Firts its done by reving the engine. When the engine is returning to idl it has not yet adjusted fuel/air ratio. Alot of unspent fuel exits the pipe. It is done with a spark plug, and a coil. You MUST use a coil because you have to get a high enough voltage to get the spark to break over. Useing only a switch to your battery would not produce a spark over a gap. Not only that but if the wirs touch, you short the battery. You need some form of ac waveform. This can be obtained easily from a multivibrator circuit. What this does is produce a on/off cycle that induces voltage in the seconday of the coil. This way you dont have to pus the buton real fast. Just flip the switch providing power to the circuit (a 555 timer from radioshack works fine) and you can gey x sparks per second. rev the engine and you are flaming. This is the ONLY way to do it. BTW they sell kits for 89 bucks also
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03:36 PM
falconhulk Member
Posts: 966 From: Harpers Ferry WV. Registered: Aug 2001
Ya know, I read those replys again......do you know how dangerous those suggestions are?????? I never thought I would read something like that on THIS board.
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03:38 PM
GTFiero1 Member
Posts: 6508 From: Camden County NJ Registered: Sep 2001
