Okay. I (my car) have been accused of being a "trailer queen" because I have the means to go out and buy a nice dovetail car hauler with ramps. I also own a ranch in Texas which has tractors, equipment, etc. So I plan to use the trailer for many things. One of which is to take my Fiero V8 to the track and back home again. Now I personally do not consider my car a trailer queen because when it does get off the trailer, I'm gonna put my foot in it repeatedly which may cause damage to the tranny. I prefer not paying tow expenses and following my car home after test and tune on Friday nights. Therefore I can now winch it on the trailer and get home safely if something fails at the track. So am I a trailer Queen because I pull my car to the track ??
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Posts: 8197 From: Salinas, CA Registered: Jan 2000
i hear it alot about show cars. that all they do is sit in a garage then get on a trailer then go to a show then back on the trailer then back in the garage.
your car seems like a strictly drag car. not and all around car. as in drive to work then to the gas station then to the track to have some fun and then home..
Like the man said, a trailer queen is a show car which only sees duty after arriving in style. And promptly disappears back into the bowels of the primping and storage vault.
Now if they start calling you a 'drag queen' you may have cause for concern. But, of course, nowadays that's okay too!
I think that to make ure you have a way to get home safely is just excellent planning. Who knows what torturing your ride has done, till you can look it over.
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
For racing its smart. For me trailer queen is for SHOW cars. The guys that show up at car shows/cruises to compete against you with a spotless car that never sees more than a mile or two on show days only. And thats just to get to the show from where they hide thier trailer so they can say they drove it to show Id have no problem is they had a seperate class for them. I put prob 20K a year on mine, even on gravel roads once in a while. I tow once in a great while, like to Mid Ohio, so I have a place for lots more stuff and a place to sleep. Also maybe a big swap/show where I intend to buy lots of stuff.
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hugh Member
Posts: 5563 From: Clementon,NJ,USA Registered: Jun 2000
If you have a car that has the potential to leave you stuck at the track and you can trailer it,more power to you.I've seen too many times when a car breaks a driveshaft or something else that disables it and winds up sticking the owner/driver at the track until it can be towed.
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Posts: 4063 From: State of insanity...moved in and comfortably numb... Registered: Jun 2001
In my opinion a trailer queen is a car that you drive on and off the trailer ONLY. Sits in the garage till show time then gets "trailered" to it's next showing. In your case your car seems like it's far from being a "Trailer queen"
Enjoy, abuse and if it lets go you can still get home. Sounds like good sense to me!
Some cars should be trailer queens. RareblueGT (can't remember his username....the member with the 1700 mile blue '87 GT) should be a trailer queen. 1700 on a 15 year old car. He wants to keep the mileage down. No problem there. The problem I have is for those that aren't trying to keep the original mileage down and just don't want rock chips, dust, etc to get on their "daily drivers". (Whatever.) There are a number of award winning show cars that are driven on a regular basis (i.e. Chris Moore, Oreif, and Haze when he had his Indy). Those are the cars I like to see win. Drive it to a show, win a trophy and drive it back home.
When I hear trailer queen, I think of the woman at the trailer park that has the marines over on the weekend... She is looking for a few good men! crash...
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Posts: 8519 From: Punta Gorda, Florida, USA Registered: Apr 2001
I change the tires on my 4.9/5 speed to autocross tires (or drag radials, depending on the venue that weekend). I put the numbers and decals on the car as required. I take the floormats, jack, spare, etc, out of the car.
Then I drive it into the trailer.
After the event, I put it back into the trailer, take it home, put the street tires/wheels on it. I also put the jack, spare, floormats, etc back in.
And on Monday it is driven to work.
Nope, that ain't a trailer queen.
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CoolBlue87GT Member
Posts: 8519 From: Punta Gorda, Florida, USA Registered: Apr 2001
Originally posted by Monkeyman: Some cars should be trailer queens. RareblueGT (can't remember his username....the member with the 1700 mile blue '87 GT) should be a trailer queen.
Thanks for your words. -- I was afraid to post anything for fear of being "torched" with bad comments.
I do drive it to a few local shows, - but do by no means infer that it's a driver.
Last year, w/1350 mile's, I did drive it the Daytona 2001 show. (Not many people realize that)
Many people at the show came over & told me this should be a trailer only car. They all said if they owned it, that's what they would do.
I did rent a U-haul truck & trailer for the ride home from that show.
Since then, I've trailered it to the Carlisle & Williamsburg, and Daytona 2002 shows.
I agree w/ an earlier post, wish all the shows had a "historic" class that would place it in another class.
Many complain, they can't compete with "trailer queens" in a "stock" class.
I agree, but if you've seen Mitchell Bell's GT, He drives it, and we have been judged very close in many shows.
In fact, we tied in the Williamsburg show !!
I feel really bad when someone gets upset that I've decided to keep the miles down by trailering it.
I'm not trying to something wrong, or trying to upset anyone. Just trying to preserve as best as I know how.
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IwannaIRM Member
Posts: 1607 From: Hot, hot Houston, TX Registered: Jul 2001
I have one of those alleged "Trailer Queens" It's my 10th Anniversary Convertible Firehawk.
With only 9 of these in the US and me owning the only one West of the Mississippi I couldn't take it if something were to happen to the car.
After I moved to Denver I took it on the road once. And some dumba$$ in an old beat up SAAB decides to rub bumpers with me in a drive thru. You should have seen the look on his face when I got out of my car and walked up to him and started reading him the riot act. He just sat there like a bump on a log and didn't even realize he had hit my car. I asked for insurance and at one point told him, "Don't look at me like I am stupid just give me your damn insurance!"
Luckily it was a light bump and everything buffed out but there are too many stupid people out there to worry about keeping my car in new/mint condition.
So, yes, I DO own a trailer queen and am proud of it.
This is my Hawk getting dynoed. 360HP at the crank which equates to roughly 305HP at the rear wheel.
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I don't see the point in haveing a car that you never drive. That's what's their for to be enjoyed. On the other side of the coin driving it back an forth to work is one thing but say driving it 18 hrs from my house to say the daytona show I think I would want to trailor the car. That seems like alot of unnecasary miles. I agree with analogy that a trailor queen is a car that goes from the garage to the trailor to the show and back. with driving in between except to put on and off the trailor. By the way awsome F'ing firebird. Damn I love the looks of those cars.
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fierosa Member
Posts: 135 From: Atascosa, TX USA Registered: Jul 2001
I could not have said it better than the previous post describing where the car sees absolutly no road time and only sees the light of day from the gargage to the trailer.
The term Trailer Queen was meant as a dispariging remark and came from those who would loose competitions to a stored only car.
To take the example to an extreme level, I once attended an OPEN car show where there was a 67 Camaro beside our display. This was an imaculate car. I happened to be there when the pushed the car into the display area. When this car won best in catagory, someone else challenged the win......turned out this Camaro did not have a running engine or trans. They were gutted out. It was the equivent of a mock display. There was a REAL BIG political up-heaval over it and Autofest never returned the next year. I dont know how it came out, but last I heard the car was disqualified.
In my opinion, trailers are for safe transport and protection, there is nothing wrong with them. As long as you can drive the car off of the trailer and back on, then all is well.
On the other hand, cars are MEANT to be driven. If one does not put a minimal 500 miles per year on their car, I feel they are missing the point of the cars manufacture and the enjoyment their car has to offer.
Bottom line....if I had an enclosed trailer to haul my pride and joy around, darn toottin I would use it, and if other folks took that to personally, then thats just a shame.
One last word....this also brings up the beauty of the next best thing to all out Car Show.......
The Show-N-Shine!
No anamosity, no judges either appointed or otherwise, just good clean fun and respect no matter how you got the car there!
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Originally posted by Fierowrecker: When I hear trailer queen, I think of the woman at the trailer park that has the marines over on the weekend... She is looking for a few good men! crash...
LOL, I wuz thinking the same thing. I think I've been to THAT trailer park, in my wasted youth, outside Camp Lejune.
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Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
Just so no one misunderstood me, I dont disapprove of towing any cars, especially those rare, few of a kind and low miles or otherwise extraordinary cars. I just dont think they should compete against regularly driven cars under the same set of standards. Myself, Id have no fun going to any event with my car on a trailer, I got it to have fun driving. If I enjoyed driving a tow vehicle I wouldnt have the car, Id just have something like a dually with a 35' travel trailer I dont really compete anyway, Ive already gotten my share of awards over 30 years. Like said in another post, It just gives me a great parking place. Show prep for me is water bottle w/ squirter and a couple of towells.
BTW to stay on your question, wonder who gets the last laugh at the track when their car breaks and they ask you to take theirs home for them
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IMHO, A "Trailer Queen" is a show car that many times isn't even driven onto the trailer.
A Drag car or a Street/Drag car cannot be called a "Trailer Queen" because they actually see street &/or Drag use. If you have the trailer etc. you really should trailer your car to the strip. As small as a Fiero is, there is no way to carry your "spares" to the strip and, many times, without a trailer there is no secure place to put your "spares" while at the track.
Up until 2 years ago, I used to drive my Fiero(s) to each and every event I attended. That included trips to Las Vegas, LA, Indy, Norwalk OH, Daytona etc. The last couple of years, I've needed to trailer to some events either because I was taking more items with me than I could carry in a Fiero or because my wife was going to the show with me and (for health reasons) she cannot ride in a Fiero anymore.
So, as you can see, there are some very good reasons some cars go to the race track on trailers and good reasons why some Street cars go to car shows on trailers.
So here is the way I look at it.
All "Trailer Queen's" are cars that ride on trailers, BUT not all trailered cars are "Trailer Queen's".
All horses are animals but not all animals are horses.
Anyone who would call a car that is taken to the drag strip on a trailer a "Trailer Queen" is doing that just to divert attention away from himself & his weaknesses.
Originally posted by rogergarrison: For racing its smart.
Agreed.
Best! Ben.
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Monkeyman Member
Posts: 15845 From: Sparta, NC Registered: Nov 1999
Everyone seems to give the term "trailer queen" negative connotation. I always just thought of trailer queens as cars that were built specifically for racing or shows, and don't see regular street use. I have nothing agains them. It's just a name.
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Fierowrecker Member
Posts: 1858 From: Lowell, MI. USA Registered: Mar 2001
Originally posted by rogergarrison: [B]For racing its smart.
I used to use a tow bar when I drag raced my 63 primer grey Chevy II Nova... Couldn't afford a trailer, and didn't care about the paint (primer)... My friend used to trailer to shows and races, but his Camaro still saw the streets... But the TLC lavished on his Camaro made everyone think it was a garaged trailer queen that never saw the streets...
Usually the comment is made by those who do not spend every waking moment detailing their car... crash...
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Archie Member
Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
Originally posted by rogergarrison: BTW to stay on your question, wonder who gets the last laugh at the track when their car breaks and they ask you to take theirs home for them
You'd be surprised at how many times after an autocross event I have had to change to street tires (I have a tire rack in the trailer) and let somebody follow me driving in my Fiero.
At least until we get to their house and unload their broken car. The tally is 4 Mazda rotaries, one GM, no Ford or Chrysler cars in just one season (10 events). That works out to half the time!!
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fieroX Member
Posts: 5234 From: wichita, Ks Registered: Oct 2001
Originally posted by Archie: No flames, but that's a dumb question. Why would someone trailer a car in a driving event?
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There are sponsors and such that trailer their "show" cars. I consider the Stinger to be a show car, and I didnt know for sure if you would be driving it. This year will be my 4th power tour, and every year the big boys bring out the hot rods of the year, and most of them make it via a trailer. See ya in Lincoln Archie.