well, no pics to show just yet, however Johm Sparza (fierobear) and his wife are here for the Friday night party - and were are here vulturing around the Margarita Machine, yeah - Im feeling pretty good about now.
Well - more pics will follow soon as we go to see the prototype tommorrow
------------------ ( the above was the thoughts, views, and opinions of a disgruntled Fiero mechanic, and do not express or imply those of West Coast Fiero, Fieros West, or any other organization - just that of this poor bastard ) :) Eric Nelson Technician, West Coast Fiero 310-305-4111
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Posts: 12398 From: The Man from Tallahassee Registered: Aug 2001
Just don't pic your nose, Eric. In your condition, you just might do that. And we don't need to see that. We wanna see cars. Yeah, cars. (Where's that LT1ChopTop web site? I wanna hear that song again!)
Sweet! Can't wait to see the pics. Hopefully someone will be able to upload the videos to a webserver so that we can check them out.
You lucky folks who are going to check the car out tommorow must feel like kids on christmas eve, eh? Hope you guys have a blast, and remember take lots of pics!
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Posts: 3446 From: Cheyenne Wyoming Registered: Oct 2001
Oh yeah, I almost forgot tomorrow was the day. Damn it's been a busy week. Friend comes from out of state for funeral/visit, internet goes down, loose computer, everything just got back up. New Sony M160 CD Player to install, New speakers, new Tranny, new ignition locks. I'm still not done either. Upgrade to mom's corsica. Anyhow, now for the important thing...
PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS.
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West Coast Fiero Member
Posts: 2044 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001
Well - its still going on until the wee hours of the night - but we did have a RAV 4 back into Chris West' car - however we blocked him in so he cannot go anywere, we will see this guy when he comes back from the bar and introduce him to Fiero Ownership Loyalty, but other than that, everything is going GREAT, just wish the Dabrowski's could have made it
------------------ ( the above was the thoughts, views, and opinions of a disgruntled Fiero mechanic, and do not express or imply those of West Coast Fiero, Fieros West, or any other organization - just that of this poor bastard ) :) Eric Nelson Technician, West Coast Fiero 310-305-4111
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Boomtastic Member
Posts: 2359 From: Athens, Alabama Registered: May 2000
Originally posted by loafer87gt: Sweet! Can't wait to see the pics. Hopefully someone will be able to upload the videos to a webserver so that we can check them out.
I have room on my server, and WILL have pics there later in the week. Until then, keep an eye on the formums ...
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
I saw this coming, the 89-90 Fiero is NOT out in Calf. Just got a call from Mike and he told me it is the 84-85 GTP/PPG blue & white with a super duty 4 in it!
I feel bad for Rob and his wife that went out there all the way from N.H. for what?
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oh.. what a bummer.. I feel really bad for eveyone who had to travel really far and spend a lot of money for plain tickets and what not... oh damn...
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Smoooooth GT Member
Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
Look's like more WCF Bull$hit... More lies...lmao Well, there's a slight chance Eric was *confused*..??? Chester and Eric... If eric would'nt have run out on them... >>>> I feel bad for those that traveled so far for nothing!!!
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Posts: 3446 From: Cheyenne Wyoming Registered: Oct 2001
Huh? Did I miss somethng? Where is the post that says it wasn't there? I see a post about the night before and and a fender bender with a Rav4, and then a post about it's too bad that they went out there for nothing.
I'm confused.
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Posts: 3446 From: Cheyenne Wyoming Registered: Oct 2001
Originally posted by fieroparts.com: I saw this coming, the 89-90 Fiero is NOT out in Calf. Just got a call from Mike and he told me it is the 84-85 GTP blue & white with a super duty 4 in it!
I feel bad for Rob and his wife that went out there all the way from N.H. for what?
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Posts: 726 From: Torrance, Ca Registered: Mar 2000
yea, so, i saw it coming too. it was their choice to come too. i saw nobody complaining there. Eric was the one that got lied too...the tour guy who does work on the car in the vault said "out of all these cars down here this is the one i know least about." so the people who work for the museum didn't even know what kinda fiero it was and told Eric it was something differant than it was.
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Posts: 8882 From: Arecibo, PR Registered: Jun 2000
---------------- posted by Boomtastic 03-02-2002 07:24 PM NO FOLKS, IT WAS NOT - REPEAT *NOT* AN '89, NOR WAS IT A PROTOTYPE!!!!! Now, in Eric Nelson's defense, I would like to point out that the information provided to him from Petersen's Car Museum was bogus, and I feel sorry for him that he went with faith instead of checking for himself.
I'd also like to give WCF a big "Thank you!" for leaving most of us behind at the museum. We were lost, but had a lovely tour of California before finding our way back to the hotel. Damn - we missed the dinner at Paradise Cove (which we wanted to attend!!) and jeesh - I DID want to spend some money on an exhaust .. oh well, couldn't find your place from the museum. MAYBE I'll phone in an order ... (cough cough) Anyways, thanks for the hospitality! ------------------
Oh.
Well, that bites!
Sorry to hear that.
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ig88vsbobafett Member
Posts: 3446 From: Cheyenne Wyoming Registered: Oct 2001
Originally posted by FieroMontreal: oh.. what a bummer.. I feel really bad for eveyone who had to travel really far and spend a lot of money for plain tickets and what not... oh damn...
Get off WCF's back. He asked the museum people to see the car before the event, and they said "no." He did his best.
Right now, it's Saturday night, we're having one hell of a nice party, they have a margarita machine (like a small slurpee machine) spitting out an endless supply of drinks, we're shooting the bull and having a great time.
Early today, we cruised around L.A. with the sunroof glass off, soaking up the sun (75 degrees)...hell, this weekend has been great.
I feel sorry for the people that came a longer distance, but Eric couldn't give anyone absolute assurance that the car was the prototype.
So, we're just having a great time. Get off his back.
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Posts: 527 From: Overland Park, KS Registered: Dec 2001
WOW!!!! Regardless if this was NOT the 89-90 Fiero who cares?? These are exciting up-close & new pictures of a car that aren't stale pictures being recycled on the Internet. I have NEVER seen a Superduty Engine before and the tour had to be somewhat fun!?!? C'mon where's the enthusiasm from the attendees?
One car that GM wasn't able to obtain and crush!! Any more pics of exterior/interior??
Originally posted by RedGTFieroKCMO: WOW!!!! Regardless if this was NOT the 89-90 Fiero who cares?? These are exciting up-close & new pictures of a car that aren't stale pictures being recycled on the Internet.
Well, yeah so It is very cool and I would of loved to see it to but it is a bummer for Elvira and Chester (I think it's them 2) and any one else who Flew down only to see the 1990 Fiero...
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Smoooooth GT Member
Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
Originally posted by Sleeper: So the people who work for the museum didn't even know what kinda fiero it was and told Eric it was something differant than it was.
Now you're wanting the PFF member's here to *believe* that the people who own a Museum are going to put a car in there and not even know the year or anything?? I don't believe that. Sleeper.... If you owned a museum, would you put it in and not even know what year it is??? Ohh, i forgot to tell ya'll... I have a 48 Prototype Corvette in my Museum...!!! Anyone from Canada or Aussy land want to fly 3000+ miles to see???
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Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
Quote:: but Eric couldn't give anyone absolute assurance that the car was the prototype. from Fierobear...
Look at the *title* of this topic!! He should have never said that if he was'nt sure!!!!
I also feel bad for Archie!!! Poor man probably fell out of his chair LAUGHING soooo hard at all this Bull$hit that WCF has pulled off this time!! Eric... Why did you run off and leave the *out of town* PFF member's????
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Posts: 726 From: Torrance, Ca Registered: Mar 2000
Originally posted by Sleeper: yo, queer bait. you gotta problem? the only bullshit i see is coming out of your mouth...so shut the fu*k up. you weren't there.
Originally posted by Sleeper: yo, queer bait. you gotta problem? the only bullshit i see is coming out of your mouth...so shut the fu*k up. you weren't there.
I got your queer bait... You're EXACTLY RIGHT OK?? I was'nt there... and NEITHER WAS THE 89-90 THAT WCF ADVERTISED!!!! Drunk Bastard!!! Is WCF related to the Fiero Shop???
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Posts: 3446 From: Cheyenne Wyoming Registered: Oct 2001
Originally posted by Sleeper: yo, queer bait. you gotta problem? the only bullshit i see is coming out of your mouth...so shut the fu*k up. you weren't there.
Yo dude, lets not resort to being rude, not that you haven't already. Well let me tell you something. I WAS there, so was my wife Elvira. If I received someone like you guys did on the east coast, my own peers would hang me! Nuf said. I don't care about the car anymore. That is not the issue here. We were left FUC$ING STRANDED in the middle of LA WITH NO HELP FROM ANY OF YOU! You Fuc$ing included. So ,for those involved all I have to say is I had a good time not because of the fact of anyone here but because of the company of Boomtastic and Mrs. Beth. So not only did we NOT get to see the car but we got to see what you guys are like FIRST HAND. I'm outta here!
Originally posted by Sleeper: yo, queer bait. you gotta problem? the only bullshit i see is coming out of your mouth...so shut the fu*k up. you weren't there.
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Hello dumb ass but I was there and I spent over 2 weeks pay to see a 1989/90 fiero and I did NOT see anything more than a glorified 1984 POS !!!! I don't blame WCF for the museum's screw-up, but I DO blame them for leaving us at the curb of the museum KNOWING we had no idea where we were. We flew out on faith and that was our fault, but we did NOT deserve to be left there to find our own way back. That waS JUST F***ED UP!! That was just plain unprofessional! We did not blame WCF for the car not being what was said it was, but a little respect for fellow Fiero fans would have been appreciated. I guess it takes we east coaster's to teach you west coaster's some manners! Is that clear enough?? I guess the quakes rattled your brains!! Sincerely, Elvira & MsBeth
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Posts: 4144 From: Portland, OR Registered: Dec 2000
Originally posted by MsBeth: Hello dumb ass but I was there and I spent over 2 weeks pay to see a 1989/90 fiero and I did NOT see anything more than a glorified 1984 POS !!!! I don't blame WCF for the museum's screw-up, but I DO blame them for leaving us at the curb of the museum KNOWING we had no idea where we were. We flew out on faith and that was our fault, but we did NOT deserve to be left there to find our own way back. That waS JUST F***ED UP!! That was just plain unprofessional! We did not blame WCF for the car not being what was said it was, but a little respect for fellow Fiero fans would have been appreciated. I guess it takes we east coaster's to teach you west coaster's some manners! Is that clear enough?? I guess the quakes rattled your brains!! Sincerely, Elvira & MsBeth
Easy now...don't think this is a "west coast" thing. I'm sure you didn't mean to sound so general; I assure you, we "west coasters" are not all the same, just like you "east coasters" (or southerners, or farmers, or canadians, etc) are not all the same.
(If you're wondering, I'm from Washington State until recently)
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Posts: 933 From: Frankfort, Kentucky Registered: Jun 2001
Sorry, I would like to clarify myself. We are very disappointed at the way we were treated here. The west coast is beautiful! We are enjoying ourselves, but Eric, knowing we had NO idea where we were, took off and left us at the museum. 3020 miles is a long way to go to be $hit on. I guess it is the way it is around cali. You would think there would be SOME hospitality, but there was NONE! We are going home tomorrow morning with our eyes open to the way people can be. No offense to west coast people, because some we met were extremely nice, but those who should have been, weren't. I guess it goes to show that there is NO PLACE LIKE HOME!
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Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
Yes it is a *West Coast* thing.... Just a *West Coast Fiero* thing that's all!!! Drunk Bastard's!!!! People can go 3000+ miles and you don't even invite them to the Party?? I still think that somehow... West Coast Fiero is a subsidiary of the The Fiero Shop??? Same kind of manner's!!! Rude and need your a$$ kick HARD!!!! Hard enough to knock your head out of there!!
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I'm very sorry to hear this.. All those people went there with there hopes up. I hope they at least let people in that car. From the pics posted so far, it looks like a car that was not kept up to well. Very dirty & looks to have some paint issues. God forbid that the Prestigious Peterson Museum keeps the car in good condition. (or at least clean)
Well all I have to say is lets move on...People that know me know that I speak my mind. I don't belive in politics or sugar coating things to make them appear any diffrent then what they are. I call it as I see it, fair and square. No matter what the excuses are - there are NONE! So, with that said I would like to thank those who did make it a memorable experience. A lot of nice cars were present at WCF. I'll set up a web site to post pics of the journey for those interested. I have to say that I was dissapointed more in the way we were welcomed then in the lack of a 89/90 Fiero in itself (which sucked but at no fault of anyone here). I always assumed that fiero folks were all the same and today I saw a different light. Hopefully this will change and we can all enjoy what really is the subject of the matter - The Fiero. I'd like to thank those who did make a difference, few and far in between (expecially the english gentleman and his significant other). And for the one that owned the green machine with the "Stuff" for audio equipment, I just wish you would have been a bit less conceded about your accomplishments. You had a nice car but ruined it with your attitude. And for those of you back home - well words don't describe it. The comaraderie that is spread through out the North East is TOP NOTCH and after today, I will never take that for granted. Gotta go, getting late and the flight back is early. See ya soon!
I for one will not spend a $ or even reply to any west coast fiero stuff. It is obvious this was wrong all along. You dont screw people, thsi is a small forum. I hope that this will finally be the demise of west coast fiero. I for one willbe glad to see them outa here. I have heard way to many bad things and this is the icing and the nails on the coffin.
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Posts: 1301 From: Chicago, IL. Registered: Mar 2001
The 'petersen museum' would surely welcome any criticisms on their PR Policies. Whoever presented this car from Petersen was living in a world of approximation. Although Fieros are only a trace in the total spectrum of their displays, I personally have lost any motivation to visit this place in the future..
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Posts: 40 From: San Diego, Ca. USA Registered: Mar 2002
Yeah Blah Blah Blah, point he finger of blame at the person closest to you. All of the blame could have been pointed at the Peterson Mueseum. Not only did they not know what they had, the car was filthy and in the basement! I got my nice new FIero shirt dirty just sitting in it. It would have been a little better if they would have actually brought it up to the showroom floor and dusted it off, but nooooo, there was some other, more important thing going on that they coulden't make room for a shuch a big car like a Fiero. All of us who travled from all around the country to see this one chance in a lifetime viewing of an '89 Fiero were so disappointed. I left right after seeing the car. Don't Blame WCF, it wasen't there fault.
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FieroGT87 Member
Posts: 3195 From: St. Louis, Mo, USA Registered: Jul 2001
I sorry to hear of what happened. But when someone organizes something it's that persons responsiblity to follow though and make sure everyone is taken care of. Just good manners. In this case I think there was only 30 people going. So how hard is it to let 30 people know what is happening and all. If there was a party maps should have been made, hand drawn if necessary so people from out of town won't get lost if they get seperated.
I am so sorry for those who flew out to Ca. and being treated like that from fellow forum members. I would not do that to anyone visiting here in St. Louis, and expect the same from others when visiting.
Again sorry it was a bust,
GT87
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FieroKyle Member
Posts: 1141 From: lowell, michigan, USA Registered: Jun 2001
Now you're wanting the PFF member's here to *believe* that the people who own a Museum are going to put a car in there and not even know the year or anything?? 
keeps the car in good condition. (or at least clean)
