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The life story of the 6th 88 fiero built. by 007DOUG
Started on: 02-12-2002 02:48 PM
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Many have seen my post in “The mall” about the 8,012 mile yellow 88 GT parts for sale. Here’s the sad story behind this fiero.

This was the 6th fiero built in 88 (# 200006). It was a yellow fastback GT. Yellow wasn’t introduced till mid-year. So I’m sure this was the first built. This GT was a press car. It was used by magazines and GM as a test vehicle. It can be found in Road & Track, and MotorTrend magazines from 87-88.

When finished with testing, the GT was donated, not scrapped (at least not yet).

The High School in my home town has always been looked upon favorably by GM. Every few years, GM gives the school another car for use in the auto tech class. The cars are used by the students for hands-on experience . Vehicles from the past have included supercharged Olds 98, Turbo T-Types, and currently a $75,000 Sony Suburban. The yellow GT was one of the cars donated. I attended this High School many years ago, and always loved the GT. But what I remember the most was the large square sticker in the middle top windshield “This vehicle has been donated for educational purposes. It CAN NOT be sold, driven, or titled. It must be destroyed.”

This GT’s last day came in September of 2001 when it was hauled off to the salvage yard to be crushed. A local repair shop knew the owner of the yard, and removed all parts from the GT. The frame was then crushed. The clocked stopped at 8,012 miles.

This was a bright yellow, gray interior, hartop, air, all power, rear defroster, wing, V6, 5 speed GT. The real stand-out about this GT besides the color and low production# is the power steering option. Power steering was never offered on 88s. Remeber, this was a “pilot“ car.

Here are a few interesting pics. Wish I had pics of the GT before it was destroyed.

Door sticker. Note VIN & production date:

Gauge cluster sticker. The number 220 1/2 appears in several places on this GT.

Rear struts have a "Engineering sample" sticker with a few hand written numbers.

I ahve no idea what this driver's hinge number is for?

Assembly line workers knew what they were building. The phrase "**** + get!" was written on the tank:

Frozen in time:


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4 Indy pace Cars
84 T-top. IRM car
86 GT Red
86 GT Yellow
86 GT Pearl White 3.4 T-top
88 Coupe Red
88 Coupe Black
88 Formula Black 5 speed
88 GT Black leather
88 GT Black lumbar
88 GT Black 3.4, 5 speed, T-top
88 GT Silver T-top 350 V8 project


However......
"Time is the most precious and perishable of my possessions."

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Report this Post02-12-2002 02:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mrfieroSend a Private Message to mrfieroDirect Link to This Post
I was thinking that the car still existed......it's sad that it was crushed, but at least someone had the foresight to remove the parts.

I have a Car & Driver or Motor Trend (can't remember which) from March 1988 with this yellow GT emblazoned everywhere......something about the "screamingest mono-chromatic yellow paint ever".

At any rate.....it is sad that this car could not have been preserved in a museum....oh well.

That said......I really want the power steering set-up. Name your price!!

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Report this Post02-12-2002 03:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Zoom88Click Here to visit Zoom88's HomePageSend a Private Message to Zoom88Direct Link to This Post
How much for the instrument cluster ?

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Report this Post02-12-2002 03:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CooterSend a Private Message to CooterDirect Link to This Post
Other "educational use only" cars have been saved from the crusher. If it had a VIN number that was correct for the car, then it could have been retitled. It has been done before for other cars less desireable than the Fiero. I hope that every part of the car was removed and saved before its trip to the afterlife
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Report this Post02-12-2002 03:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for My7FierosSend a Private Message to My7FierosDirect Link to This Post
That sux. I find it hard to believe that they wouldnt let that car be sold..and on top of that, they would donate it to a HIGH SCHOOL? Great, just what that car needed, a bunch of stupid kids screwing with stuff that they know nothing about. Oh well, at least the parts were taken off, and Im glad YOU got them! At least there is alittle silver lining in this story.
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Report this Post02-12-2002 03:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Master_SushiSend a Private Message to Master_SushiDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by My7Fieros:
That sux. I find it hard to believe that they wouldnt let that car be sold..and on top of that, they would donate it to a HIGH SCHOOL? Great, just what that car needed, a bunch of stupid kids screwing with stuff that they know nothing about. Oh well, at least the parts were taken off, and Im glad YOU got them! At least there is alittle silver lining in this story.

I agree. Its pretty sad they donated a very rare, if not the rarest fiero ever to a "high screwel". Even worse that it was crushed. What a waste .

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Report this Post02-12-2002 03:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NashcoClick Here to visit Nashco's HomePageSend a Private Message to NashcoDirect Link to This Post
Can we at least see pics of the power steering? I understand if you don't want to sell it, but you have to share a little of the glory with us visually!

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Report this Post02-12-2002 05:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RealityClick Here to visit Reality's HomePageSend a Private Message to RealityDirect Link to This Post
I don't believe Doug has the power steering. Reason it's not for sale is cause the original person that parted the car knew what he had and dosen't want to sell the unit. I do know that if you pick up a P-Book you can go to the the power steering section and get the part numbers for the power steering and see a diagram of it.

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Report this Post02-12-2002 06:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 007DOUGSend a Private Message to 007DOUGDirect Link to This Post
Reality is correct. The shop owner kept the power rack. he said there was only 600 fieros built with the option...ah yeah!

I offered $500 for the power steering, went back and offered $800. I'll try one more time, but no way in hell am I going over a grand. I had to pay him dearly just for these parts....don't you hate it when someone knows you want something really bad.

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Report this Post02-12-2002 06:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for bHooperSend a Private Message to bHooperDirect Link to This Post
Dude! That car was in Glen Dale?! WoW!

I guess you couldn't have gotten the school to let you strip b4 hand, or maybe they just didn't give a damn.

Good story, though.

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Originally posted by 007DOUG:
Reality is correct. The shop owner kept the power rack. he said there was only 600 fieros built with the option...ah yeah!

I heard it was the last 100 Fieros got the power steering. Funny how different people hear/believe different things. I guess it's good that he thinks there are 599 other ones out there. If he knew the actual number he would really hold on tight!

 
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I offered $500 for the power steering, went back and offered $800. I'll try one more time, but no way in hell am I going over a grand. I had to pay him dearly just for these parts....don't you hate it when someone knows you want something really bad.

Doug,

Assuming everything is there......rack, pump, hydraulic lines, reservoir, etc. I would be willing to go $1500.

If your next offer is refused please mention mine to him.....maybe he'll start to budge ($$ talks you know!)

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Report this Post02-12-2002 07:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RedGTFieroKCMOSend a Private Message to RedGTFieroKCMODirect Link to This Post
 
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Assembly line workers knew what they were building. The phrase "**** + get!" was written on the tank:

Uhhh, why did they write Sh!t + Get on the fuel tank??? What did that mean??

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Report this Post02-12-2002 07:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CooterSend a Private Message to CooterDirect Link to This Post
Just a thought- somebody run the vin## on carfax and see what shows up. It might be interesting to see who the owner was.
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Originally posted by 007DOUG:
Reality is correct. The shop owner kept the power rack. he said there was only 600 fieros built with the option...ah yeah!

I offered $500 for the power steering, went back and offered $800. I'll try one more time, but no way in hell am I going over a grand. I had to pay him dearly just for these parts....don't you hate it when someone knows you want something really bad.

Well, you CAN just let him hold on to them then! You know that he doesn't know anybody else that is willing to pay 800 bucks for "some stupid fieruh power steerin' deal"...

Let him sit on the parts for a few months, see how much good they do HIM! Perhaps 500 bucks isn't too much to ask then

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Report this Post02-12-2002 08:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for louSend a Private Message to louDirect Link to This Post
According to Saginaw there were only 16 Fieros that had the electro hydraulic power steering, 4 were Formulas 4 were coupes 8 were GTs. All of the units, except 4, were returned to Saginaw because GM did not want the liability. Of the ones that survived one was a Formula (Yellow t-tops) the other three were GTs. Two have been acounted for if you post a picture of the power steering on this one it will make three that are acounted for.
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Report this Post02-12-2002 08:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fierokid87Send a Private Message to Fierokid87Direct Link to This Post
Its sad to see that Fiero meet such a sad ending.

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Here is the carfax... It says JUNK, that is sad.
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CARFAX VEHICLE HISTORY REPORT SUMMARY
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* ALERT!
CARFAX search results confirm this 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
(1G2PG119XJP200006) DOES NOT qualify for the CARFAX Clean Title History
Guarantee. By ordering this CARFAX Report, you have significantly reduced
your risk of purchasing a vehicle with a costly hidden problem.

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Sect.# Section Name Section Results
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1 Vehicle Specifications 1G2PG119XJP200006
1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
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2 Title Check Clean Title History NOT Guaranteed
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3 Odometer Rollback Check No Odometer Rollback Detected
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4 Problem Check No Problems Found
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5 Registration Check Checked 7 types of vehicle
registrations
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6 Vehicle History Details One Vehicle History Record Found
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NOTE: CARFAX has not inspected this vehicle. It may have problems that
have not been reported to CARFAX.
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How CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's history:
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CARFAX checks the VIN against its nationwide database containing
over 1.62 billion vehicle history records. The CARFAX database
includes U.S. and Canadian title and registration activity, rental and
lease usage, odometer readings from inspection stations, auto auctions
and other sources.

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SECTION 1 CARFAX VEHICLE SPECIFICATIONS
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Vehicle ID: 1G2PG119XJP200006
Yr/Mfg: 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
Model: Fiero GT
Body: 2D Cpe. 2-seat car
Engine: 2.8L V6 FI
Fuel: Gasoline
Driveline: Rear-wheel drive
Aspiration: Normal
Country Mfg.: United States

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SECTION 2 TITLE CHECK
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* RESULT: ALERT!
CARFAX search results confirm this 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
(1G2PG119XJP200006) DOES NOT qualify for the CARFAX Clean Title History
Guarantee. CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history to determine if
any title documents were designated or marked with the following problems:

Problem Titles Checked: Results:
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Salvage/Junk-------------------------> Salvage/Junk Title FOUND.
Rebuilt/Reconstructed----------------> No Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Found.
Flood Damage-------------------------> No Flood Damage Title Found.
Damage Disclosure--------------------> No Damage Disclosure Found.
Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON)---------> No Manufacturer Buyback Found.
Exceeds Mechanical Limits (EML)------> No EML Found.
Not Actual Mileage (NAM)-------------> No NAM Found.

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SECTION 3 ODOMETER ROLLBACK CHECK
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* RESULT: GOOD NEWS!
CARFAX search results on this 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
(1G2PG119XJP200006) did not uncover a potential odometer rollback. CARFAX
analyzed this vehicle's reported odometer readings to determine if any
reading is less than a previously reported reading.


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SECTION 4 PROBLEM CHECK
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* RESULT: GOOD NEWS!
CARFAX search results on this 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
(1G2PG119XJP200006) did not uncover any of the following problems:

Problems Checked: Results:
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Accident-----------------------------> No Accident Record Found.
Salvage Auction----------------------> No Salvage Auction Record Found.
Failed Emissions Inspection----------> No Failed Emissions Record Found.
Fire Damage--------------------------> No Fire Damage Record Found.
Crash Test Vehicle-------------------> No Crash Test Vehicle Record Found.
Grey Market Vehicle------------------> No Grey Market Record Found.

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SECTION 5 REGISTRATION CHECK
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FYI: CARFAX search results on this this 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
(1G2PG119XJP200006) identify the types of state motor vehicle department
registrations, other than private, that appear in this vehicle's history.

Registrations Checked: Results:
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Lease--------------------------------> No Lease Registration Found.
Rental-------------------------------> No Rental Registration Found.
Government---------------------------> No Government Registration Found.
Taxi---------------------------------> No Taxi Registration Found.
Fleet--------------------------------> No Fleet Registration Found.
Commercial---------------------------> No Commercial Registration Found.
Non-Profit---------------------------> No Non-Profit Registration Found.

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SECTION 6 VEHICLE HISTORY DETAILS
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The CARFAX database contains the following vehicle history record on this
1988 Pontiac Fiero GT (1G2PG119XJP200006).
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Unreported
Information Source:
Michigan Motor Vehicle Dept.
Title #299Z003010
General Comments:
JUNK TITLE ISSUED
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NOTE: You have significantly reduced your risk of purchasing a vehicle with
a hidden problem. However, CARFAX has not inspected this vehicle. There
could be other potential problems with this vehicle that have not been
reported to CARFAX.

NOTE: Not all titles issued represent a change in vehicle ownership. For
example, a title could be issued to reflect an address change or correction.


GLOSSARY DEFINITIONS:
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Salvage/Junk Title - States issue salvage titles when an insurance company
takes possession of a vehicle as a result of a claim. This generally occurs
after a vehicle has been declared a total loss. States issue junk titles to
indicate that a vehicle is not road worthy and cannot be titled again in
that state.

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Report this Post02-14-2002 12:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 007DOUGSend a Private Message to 007DOUGDirect Link to This Post
Hmmm, Interesting. GM must write it off as "junk" when they donate a car.

Wish it gave a date for the salvage title.

Thanx, MoneyPit

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Originally posted by RedGTFieroKCMO:
Uhhh, why did they write Sh!t + Get on the fuel tank??? What did that mean??


I wanna know too. I fused!

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Guys, I wish the guy at the parts yard had taken all the parts off the frame and put them on another 88 frame. Then the car would go on.

The car would be worth a heck of lot more than it would selling it piecemeal. An 88 frame could be had for $500 max.

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Originally posted by FieroKyle:

I wanna know too. I fused!


Hm .. I made the assumption it was saying the car was fast - as in, get your business done and get going?? Does that make sense, or does anyone know the "real" meaning of this little gem?

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Report this Post03-08-2002 12:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for qwikgtaSend a Private Message to qwikgtaDirect Link to This Post
From the 88 parts book.

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