every one say's there gonna brun down or break in half or somthing, I own a 84 and I plan on spending alota money on it and keeping it for a long time, And converting it to a fastback. Is this a bad idea ? am I gonna have it breakdown all the time ? what ussely goes wrong with 84's ?
I don't wanna put alota money into this to have somthing go wrong and it be junk.
otherwise i will just drive my fiero like a old beater tell i can buy an 80's bmw or 80's firebird.

The "bad" 84's are either fixed or have long since burned up and their ashes scattered. The remaining ones (remember, this was the most-produced model year for Fieros) have no inherent problems which any other car its age don't have.

I have an 84. I am happy with it! Whenever you see a beater fiero, its almost allways an 84. I think thats the main reason they are somewhat looked down upon. They only had the 2.5 I4 engine also. They arn't that much different then other 4cyl fieros. Just little things were changed after 84.

Hey, 84s were the first fieros! They started it all...

I like the 84's. In fact, I own one!

They are ugly and slow??? thats my guess

My 84 is neither ugly nor slow

They just need a little more TLC than other Fieros, my V6 really helps the speed issue as well.
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I don't know if i'd agree with that whatever floats your boat

I don't think the 84's were that darn slow.. hell when I had my 84 I could stay even with 3.4 grand prix's all the way to 60 then after that they ate me me up but hey! they had a 6

-KC

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I'm sure your black mustang turns a lot of heads

Again, to each is own, I guess. I still love mine. I noticed one thing on a lot of them tho. It seems like the front ends sit up a lot higher on the '84's then the rest of them. That is why I nick-names my little '84 "Miss Snooty", she looks like she has her nose in the air.

I get the same thing. My 84 SE is in pretty good shape with a nice set of 5 spoke wheels. When people ask what year it is they react with the fire thing. I tell them the car has 206000 miles so Pontiac must have done something right the start walking around the car in disbelief. Also come across people that had them and say they loved them. I haven't had one person that owned a Fiero say anything bad. Only know of 1 Fiero that caught on fire , my brother in law who gave the car to his son, and admits his son beat the car, and never opened the hood.

I had my 84 SE from February 1984 until October of this year. It had 331,000 miles on it when I let a friend have it. He's driving it daily now and loving it. Yes, they do need maintennance and things do break, but I think I got my money's worth out of it over the years a few times over

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White 88 GT :)

The 84's getted dumped on because of their reputation from fires, because they didn't live up to expectations because of not offering enough horsepower, and now because they are the oldest, and generally not in really good condition.

I have no problems with the 84's, and a nice condition 84 is as good as any other Fiero IMO. They don't have any 6 cyl's, but neither do the majority of 85-88's eiher.

This is our 85 SE. Looks just like the 84's and I wouldn't consider it ugly at all. It actually gets more looks and compliments than my bright red Formula!!

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1988 Fiero Formula
1985 Fiero SE 2M6

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I like 84's, that was the car that got me hooked. Jaygee79's Fiero. This summer I am going to put a wire harness from a 86 SE in all the way and putting an 88 Iron Duke in with a 5 speed. Should be nice.

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I think the 84 coupes aren't as good looking as the other Fieros... mine's red. and it has a pointy nose. heh

and a stupid decklid design.

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Well as for me, the 84 Fiero is still the best looking of the whole bunch.
I love the look so much in fact, when I got this 87,one of the first things in order was a "Face lift"

As to that "slow thing" rumor, that was fixed as well.
So, to all those not so friendly Mustang owners,... looks can be deceiving.
Unless you can deliver, move over to the right.

Tina

I just think 84s are ugly. I personnaly don't like the wedge nose or the duke engine. I don't think I'd worry about the fire issue. If it was going to burn up it would have done it by now. To each his own though.

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I got a 84 fiero as well, i spent 6k fixing it up making it completely new...changed about every known part on my car (well cept the body) and probably more! Not to mention Im using ALL my christmas money and birthday money on side rocker panels, borla exhaust, GT-1 spoiler, those cute headlight things (that don't pop up), and a kick ass paint job (i got a evil fairy decal on my hood in black and thinkin about paintin my car hot pink, lol). pics coming soon hopefully.
I love my car and love driving it; it keeps me sane when the rest of the world has done me wrong. Not to mention the first fiero is the 84. Ive had some people at school tell me they think my car is ugly; thats when i get a bat and...errr, nevermind...
hey mike, NICE CAR! i looked at it when i came up there a little bit ago. I was speachless... i came up with my bro (he sold me my current fiero) and he wanted to know if you ever thought about selling it. Also, did you ever find out what was wrong with it? your mom was telling us how it didn't run. LMK i'd love to hear more about it. its a sweeeeeeeet car! bet you get lots of chicks, lol.

I've got two '84's. One is a parts car, but the other has an eight point roll cage. I'm still learning what the Iron Duke likes for mods (very limited in the class I'm in), but it's getting better. There is no better handling car in my class, but some of that is because of the guy that does my suspension set-up.

A front spoiler from IRM will fix that 'stuck-up nose' look.

The Fiero was initially designed to be a commuter car, not a performance car. The '84's reflect that the most. Public perception changed the purpose of the Fiero, and by '88, the Fiero was quite a performance car. And we all know what happened after that....

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GTMike said 84 fieros are "ulgy and slow", Not Blackstang95. Well not directly anyway...

For the slow part. I bet my 84se 4.10 could take a few auto GT's off the line. The autos don't exactly have great times. The 2.8 is one of the biger POS engines GM made. Not that the 2.5 is any better though. All *stock* fiero engines are pretty much worthless if you want great times and speed.

Oh ya, I dont know why you would want to say 84s are ulgy and slow. Wasn't it you who recently posted about geting an 84 to fix up and work on for a project?

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quote Originally posted by Tina: As to that "slow thing" rumor, that was fixed as well... Tina

Spoken by one who knows.

Hey Trevor!
84's are good as what you are willing to spend, just like any other Fiero!
I have two 84's, both parts cars NOW, but in their day, they were great!
Now I have two 86's, both 2M4, but mods are planned!

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I don't post here much (this is the 'civilized' section), but I will say this about the '84's: A lot of people look poorly upon the '84's as the instrument of demise to Fiero production. Pontiac never really recovered from the bad press it recieved from the fire issue, and consequently lost sales of the remaining few years of production runs. That plus the fact that not much will integrate easily from the newer models to the '84.(engine wise) I've got one and like it a lot, but there's certainly nothing wrong with the other year models either.

1# there kinda ugly
2# interior is very plain
3# bad rims
4# most were white
5# no spolier
6# no v6 option for that year so they were slow
7# they give the fiero name in general a bad name! , because the way they look compared to the gt's
8# they don't pick up chicks if they are left stock.

that's about all

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yo_sweet!

Ummm, Yo_sweet.. All Fiero interiors are pretty much the same. Doesn't matter what year.

And there was a wing option in 84. Remember, the only models the wing was ever included on was the Pace car and the Formula. On all the other models it was only an option, even for the GT's.

The 14" tech wheels were the same as was used on everything other than the Fastback GT's and Formulas..

and plenty of chicks thought my '84 was cute. Of course, I've found that the ability to pick up chicks also has a lot to do with the driver...

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1986 GT 5 speed, 1984 SC Auto
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Hell no. wasn't me posting about wanting to fix up an 84. it would cost to much money to get it to look and run as good as a fast back 5-speed GT.

tina you car is great. the wing the scoops the v8. its hardly and ugly 84.

i was refering to the ugly old stock slow head light stuck up 84s.

if you have droped 6 grand in to your 84 i dont think it would look like a stock 84.

The 84 Fiero wasn't a road-rocket, but in 1984 it wasn't all that much slower than a lot of other cars on the road either. We are in an age of horspower renaissance today! Acura's RSX base model four banger is putting out 160 HP! That wasn't the case in 1984! So compared to cars that are 18 years newer, yeah it is rather slow. Is that a very fair comparison? Nope.

Maybe its greatest advantage, at least in the northeast... it hasn't rusted out and junked yet. Any other 84 car that has seen duty in winters in this region has long since developed major rust problems, and most likely been long since scrapped. So maybe being "slow and ugly" (not my words or opinion) isn't so bad since it hasn't naturally recycled itself yet!

Peaches:
Thanks, I have a lot of work in that car! I am going to have the wiring problem fixed as soon as my band gets out of the studio, it's nothing big but I have another Fiero to drive right now so it's on my to-do list. I had it for sale about a year ago, but I decided to keep it and hope to eventually put a 350 in it (when I'm rich and famous that is)

To ANY non-believers of the 84, just check out Tina's car! It's awesome!!

To me the only down fall over the 84's and the rest of the years is that so much is uncompatable with the later years ( without modifications).

Wiring harnesses are different, door skins aren't interchangeable, rad fans, decklids are almost non-called for for later year replacements, engine grills... just to name a few.

Front crossmembers are not built as sturdy, front lower control arms are weaker compared to the later years, etc.

There are alot more differences between the 84's and the rest that I mentioned.

Now before you flame away, none of this is a bad thing.

I believe 84's are just as good as the later years, and would not have any quabble of owning a 84 again. A few friends still have 84's and I enjoy riding in them as much as my own cars.

So I guess my input is that a few people have issues with parts interchangability, and modifications ( V6 installation), where they find it easier and/or cheaper to just get a newer model than to do the work.

peace

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quote Originally posted by GTMike: They are ugly and slow??? thats my guess

LMDAO!!!
That's what I was gonna say.

Fiero lovers like all of us in this Forum love all Fieros. I used to like that notchback, but I moved up.

Sly

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All you Fiero bashers make me sick... Your precious little GT & V6's are still the same thing. FIEROS!! Its bad enough we get ridicule from the automotive world, we don't need it in our own. For everyone that is going to tell me "To each there own" Your full of s**t... You can't honestly step back & look at a Coupe or a GT & say one is ugly and one is beautiful... Get some professional help!!!

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quote Originally posted by Haze_Performance: ... Your precious little GT & V6's are still the same thing. FIEROS!! You can't honestly step back & look at a Coupe or a GT & say one is ugly and one is beautiful... Get some professional help!!!

Second that one

Tina

quote Originally posted by Haze_Performance: All you Fiero bashers make me sick... Your precious little GT & V6's are still the same thing. FIEROS!! You can't honestly step back & look at a Coupe or a GT & say one is ugly and one is beautiful... Get some professional help!!!

I third that!

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James Essar
AOL IM Name: FieroMaster88
Not your ordinary 88 coupe!

I fourth that!

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Tigger's Fiero Page

well not all the 84's are ugly,my 84 is nice,leather seats, stereo,and i'm sure if i tried to sell it, i wouldn't have a problem, to sell it,yes it's not that fast, but it really isn't that slow either,that's why i have a backup.

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quote Originally posted by Haze_Performance: All you Fiero bashers make me sick... Your precious little GT & V6's are still the same thing. FIEROS!! Its bad enough we get ridicule from the automotive world, we don't need it in our own. For everyone that is going to tell me "To each there own" Your full of s**t... You can't honestly step back & look at a Coupe or a GT & say one is ugly and one is beautiful... Get some professional help!!!

No offense dude but I can think what ever I want. The wedge nose looks like **** to me. I don't care if a fiero is notchback or a fastback but I just don't like the front end. The other thing I don't like is the black rubber bumper pads...they make the car look cheap. I don't like formulas a whole lot either. what ever you like...you like. hell theirs plenty of people on this forum that think you buy anything but the wonderfully perfect 88 fastback your an idiot. To each his own dude....Why even start a thread like this is what I want to know? why even ask what other people think if your gonna get mad when you hear it?

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Did ya ever notice you never see this level of "inter-family" bashing on other car boards? You never hear the owner of a '91 Vette trash talk the owner of a '87 Vette because his '91 is so much more... (insert prettier/faster/whatever here).

No wonder other people laugh at us!

Hartz

'84 SC 5.7L V8
'85 SE 3.1L V6 Turbo
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