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Lowering Springs or Cutting Springs by Rare87GT
Started on: 10-31-2001 02:28 AM
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Report this Post10-31-2001 02:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Rare87GTSend a Private Message to Rare87GTDirect Link to This Post
Well I was reading the last post about lowering a Fiero correctly and was needing some advice. I know cutting the springs will most likely ruin the caster/camber, but the right way would be with Eibach Springs if I am right. What are the chances that my car if I lower it 1.5" turns into a civic hopping machine or will I be fine cutting it that length. I know if I screw up or something I can get the springs off of a Fiero at a junkyard, just wanted to know the preference of most people on the board. If not, how much do a set of Eibach lowering springs cost for a Fiero? Thanks guys.

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Report this Post10-31-2001 02:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroXSend a Private Message to fieroXDirect Link to This Post
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Report this Post10-31-2001 03:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Haze_PerformanceSend a Private Message to Haze_PerformanceDirect Link to This Post

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I wouldn't cut the springs.. If you enjoy driving it, I would get a good set of springs. The best way (I hear..) is to use drop spindles on front & coilovers on the rear. (I'm using Eibach's all around on one of my cars. No complaints here)

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Report this Post10-31-2001 09:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MrPBodyClick Here to visit MrPBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to MrPBodyDirect Link to This Post
Either way works. Lowering springs probably are better; cutting is cheaper. Either way, you'll have to align it after lowering.
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Report this Post10-31-2001 09:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Smoooooth GTSend a Private Message to Smoooooth GTDirect Link to This Post
HHmmm.. Are there any spring off of anyother car that would *act* like lowering spring's, we would'nt have to cut them, and still act like shorter spring's??? Thank's Steve

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Report this Post10-31-2001 09:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TRiADSend a Private Message to TRiADDirect Link to This Post
Well, I said this last time, but...
It's your skin. What's it worth to you?
Go Eibach.

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Report this Post10-31-2001 11:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WhiteFieroBlurSend a Private Message to WhiteFieroBlurDirect Link to This Post
Well my next thing I am doing is lowering and I been doing some searching and research on it. As everyone knows your best bet is coilover and spindles. But if your like me there is no way I can afford that. If I could I might as well get a paint job. I wanna go with cutting only because the fierostore springs say they lower it one inch and I don't think thats enough. I wanna go atleast 1.5 or 2. But to be on the safe side I am proably gonna go with the springs. I know some people have proablems with cutting and some people never. I just can't afford it going bad from cutting.

If anyone knows of springs that lower more than 1 inch let me know.

and here is the thread I just made on the subject https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/011416.html

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Report this Post10-31-2001 12:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for filthyscarecrowSend a Private Message to filthyscarecrowDirect Link to This Post
my dad cut the springs on his 86SE.
just hacked one coil off the front and it looks kickass, the front springs are a little stiffer because the spring rate changed a bit, but not enough to need stiffer dampers. you will have to align the car, both toe and camber. castor is not affected by cutting the spring, only by moving the washers that space the upper a-arm.
i'm not sure how much one is suppposed to cut off the rears though. you might have to try that one little by little... start with somehting like 1/2 to 3/4 coil, put them back on adn see where it sits. i would think 1 coil would be sufficient. oh yeah, and get a good saw blade. it's not as easy as it sounds...
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Report this Post10-31-2001 03:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rare87GTSend a Private Message to Rare87GTDirect Link to This Post
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Report this Post10-31-2001 03:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87FieroGTxClick Here to visit 87FieroGTx's HomePageSend a Private Message to 87FieroGTxDirect Link to This Post
If you have the money go Eibach.

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Report this Post10-31-2001 04:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 86 FIERO GTSend a Private Message to 86 FIERO GTDirect Link to This Post
I know of a Suspension Tech 1.5 inch drop for the fiero, its 189 for the set of springs.

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Report this Post10-31-2001 04:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rare87GTSend a Private Message to Rare87GTDirect Link to This Post
How would you rate those springs compared to the Eibach Springs?

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Report this Post10-31-2001 06:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroXSend a Private Message to fieroXDirect Link to This Post
ive decided to cut mine. Im going with 2 inches total drop, maybe only 1.5 in the front, because its already lower than the rear. I guess if I have problems with the cut springs Ill just buy a set of suspension techniques springs which is what I was going to do in the first place until I redecided to cut mine.

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Report this Post10-31-2001 06:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GTMikeSend a Private Message to GTMikeDirect Link to This Post
i'm thining of cutting mine too. well not actually mine junk yard springs. if if mess them up i can just put my originals back on.

to figure out how much i'm going to cut off. i'm going to drive the car up on ramps. so i can get under itn and mesure on the spring how much needs to be removed to bring the car down 2 inches. i figure if i like it i just saved myself close to 200 bucks to put towards the 3.4 swap.

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Report this Post10-31-2001 08:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TRiADSend a Private Message to TRiADDirect Link to This Post
*disappointed and ashamed*

Oh, and ST springs suck. Almost worse than cutting.

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Report this Post11-01-2001 02:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroXSend a Private Message to fieroXDirect Link to This Post
TRiAD, how do you know so much about fiero suspension, but you dont even own a fiero yet?
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Report this Post11-01-2001 06:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for artherdClick Here to visit artherd's HomePageSend a Private Message to artherdDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by fieroX:
TRiAD, how do you know so much about fiero suspension, but you dont even own a fiero yet?

Dot be too hard on him, he's used to Hondas where people drop them 6" by torching the springs (I was wondering the same thing though...) Triad, try it out (wait, don't, on your 85 it WILL suck)

If you have an 88 car (with soft or the mid-level ARD springs) you can safely cut exactly one coil. This gives 1" of drop, and is more compliant and stable than stock.

Plus the car now sits properly.

DO NOT do it if you have a non-88 car.

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Report this Post11-01-2001 01:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroXSend a Private Message to fieroXDirect Link to This Post
one more thing, when lowering a car, using any method described above, I know it is a recommended practice to replace the shocks and struts. Is there a special shock or strut needed to compensate for the lowering?
How do you guys feel about the monroe sensitrac?
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Report this Post11-01-2001 02:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TRiADSend a Private Message to TRiADDirect Link to This Post
Cutting springs is cutting springs, Fiero or otherwise.
You don't have to own a Fiero to know that cutting springs is a bad idea.
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Report this Post11-01-2001 05:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for starfighter007@msn.comSend a Private Message to starfighter007@msn.comDirect Link to This Post
I really dont like the lowering by useing the springs to get these results howevever it is a real shame what they are trying to get for the lowering spindles they too are out of my price range .But as far as spindles go I wonder how much difference between a S10 pickup and fiero there is ? The reason that I ask is that summit catolog as lowering spindles for I think $150.00 a set for the S10 pickup I always hoped that I would have the time to compare the spindles maybe someone here has a good relationship with someone at a parts store or wrecking yard that we could compare the 2 spindles and see what differences there are if any to over come
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Report this Post11-01-2001 10:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpyderSend a Private Message to SpyderDirect Link to This Post
Cut the springs, if you don't like them, buy the lowering springs.
I've had both; I'd just cut them. But that’s just a personal opinion.
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Report this Post11-02-2001 08:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Alex4mulaSend a Private Message to Alex4mulaDirect Link to This Post
On an 88 you can safely cut 1.5 coils in front and 1.25 coils in back. 1-1/4" to 1-1/2" drop. I did it. No problems. My other car has FS lowering springs. Not big diff. Go for it if low on $$.

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Report this Post11-02-2001 09:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by WhiteFieroBlur:
I wanna go with cutting only because the fierostore springs say they lower it one inch and I don't think thats enough. I wanna go atleast 1.5 or 2. But to be on the safe side I am proably gonna go with the springs. I know some people have proablems with cutting and some people never. I just can't afford it going bad from cutting.


The Fiero Store springs (they are Eibach's)will lower your car by 1.5" These are the ones I'm using and once they "settle" the measured drop is 1.5". Eibachs website lists them as dropping the car 1.5" I don't know why the F.S. only says 1".
For a 1.5" drop use springs for a 2" drop use spindles/coil-overs.
Cutting springs will lower the car and slightly stiffen the suspension, But it won't stiffen the suspension enough to where you won't bottom out often.

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Report this Post11-02-2001 05:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroXSend a Private Message to fieroXDirect Link to This Post
Ive done alot of measuring and ive decided to chop the front 1.5" and the rear 2". I picked up a set of monroe sensitracs and im going to town on it tonight after work. Ill post some pics when its finished.
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