I suggest taking them out for somethihng to eat. Nothing fancy, maybe pizza or a inexpensive Italian restaurant. Afterwards, take them to the pre-arrainged Fiero club meeting. There, they will meet all the wonderfull wholesome American Fiero afficianados who can better explain the attributes of owning a car loved by so many. Or, have them e-mail me. I'm close, I'll be happy to speek to them. If I convince them that you indeed "need" a Fiero, then you owe me a pizza dinner.
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01:28 AM
rodmcneill Member
Posts: 1616 From: Indiana USA Registered: Oct 2000
Originally posted by sjp777: Tell them you need a hobby and you've decided on either having a Fiero and the near constant attention it requires, or collecting assault rifles.
Let them pick.
I'd encourage my kid to collect so-called "assault rifles" before Fieros.
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Originally posted by TRiAD: Since the engine is right over the drive wheels, they drive great in the snow (especially with snow tires, always highly recommended).
(Snow...CA...get it?)
Fieros are absolutely horrible on snow and ice. Probably the worst vehicle I have ever has the distinct displeasure of having o drive in those conditions. I wouldn't let my kid even sit in a stationary Fiero if it were snowing or raining substantially.
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04:52 AM
Return of Fiero Member
Posts: 197 From: Nashua,NH,USA Registered: Oct 2001
Originally posted by GTFiero1: Come on, the average teen gets an 80's car for there first car, the parents dont want a new one wrecked.
boy, i must have been in a good area, parents bought me a 95 Firebird that liked to break down when i turned 16. this car sucked, so i bought my own, a Fiero. In 96 i bought my second one, sold the firebird, and had two reliable Fieros. when one went down, that didnt happen often, i had the other. My dad drove my first fiero, and all he said was, "not a good winter car, you want it, ill negotiate, and you pay" the key is, as everyone has said, pay for it your self. The key to the fiero (why i never had a problem with them) is matinence. stay on the car like its a todler. watch it constantly, make sure its not getting in trouble, and be sure to change its diaper. (tune up) when it drops a load, make sure you have baby wipes to clean it up (money to back up the parts). and to be honest, your mother probaly thinks its a "deathtrap" due to popular belief. it so, why is it when i got forced off the road from some jerk who tried to pass me in a blizard with a 4X4, i bounced off a tree at 35 mph, and ruined a marked light. no other damage. i also got ass ended and ended up on the other side of the intersection, i cracked the bumper. you want you parents to let you buy a fiero, get them to give you details about the reasons you should not get it, but be armed with info, so you can tell them "nicely, and inteligently"(looks whos talking intelegents, look at my spelling) the reason they may be incorect, or reasons why this is not a valid reason to stop you from having what you want. tell them if they would feel better, you will pay them back on the car, or better, you will buy the car yourself. Fireos can be fun, and Fiero can be fast, contrary to some of the members here. have you ever been in a car that lets you wrap the speedo back around? the fiero can, and i concider that fast. damn thing reads 85mph, how fast do you want for christ sake. this isnt the uss enterprise, and we dont need warp speed. also, public roads are not race tracks, speed is not an issue, safty is.
dont mind me, just rambling again, Myke
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09:23 AM
BN Boomer Member
Posts: 2086 From: Snohomish, Wa Registered: Jun 99
I notice a lot of this "just save up your money and do what you want" logic. There are other aspects of automobile ownership that teenagers never contemplate or are probably even aware of. The biggest of which is liability. Even though you may have saved up and purchased the car on your own, juveniles (under 18) usually get insurance under their parents' policy because it is so much less expensive. In Washington State a person under 18 may not even legally own an automobile so it is usually titled and insured under the parent's names anyway. And even if neither of these situations apply to you, courts have still generally ruled that parents can be held responsible, civilly and even criminally, for their juvenile childrens' actions (Assuming that you have not legally divorced your parents and severed ties with them, in which case they probably wouldn't be buying you a car or influencing your decision anyhow. I don't believe this applies to anyone here). So even though you may have bought your own car and insurance with your own money, if you choose to go out and drive negligently or recklessly and end up injuring or killing someone or causing property damage because of it, your parents can still be sued because they are responsible for you. And these days the stakes are very high. We are talking about losing houses and other big ticket assets here, people. My wife and I know a family that lost their home and pretty much everything they had because one of their children fell asleep at the wheel and hit an oncoming car head on, causing his death and critically injuring the couple in the other car who later sued. These people now live in an old run down single wide mobile home trailer and their other kids sometimes sleep in broken down cars on the property. This is no joke, either.
This is the message that I drove home to my own kids. My son chose not to meet the minimum standards I had established in order to get our permission necessary to obtain his drivers license and consequently did not bother getting his license until he was 20 years old. In retrospect, while difficult for us, it was a very smart move on my part to not lot him get his license at 16. Despite years of driving experience with a learners permit, he is not a very good driver, having racked an array of citations and a two minor parking lot accidents in less than a year. My daughter, on the other hand, did choose to meet the minimum GPA and other standards, received her license at 16, and has been a very good driver. Her efforts have been rewarded with primary use of a very nice 85 GT. Here she is on senior prom night earlier this year:
So in closing, I would not recommend simply saving up your money, going behind your parents back to buy a car they do not want to be held liable for, and then trying to seek forgiveness later. That would not fly in my home and would only damage the typically already fragile trust that exists between parents and teenagers in most households. Having that Fiero may ultimately cost you a lot more than you had bargained for and require much larger sacrifices. If you are unable to reason with your folks into getting the green light from them, then just wait a couple of years. These cars will still be around when you turn 18 and are responsible for yourself. A good working relationship with your parents during your teenage years is a onetime shot.
I guess the bottom line is that when you live under someone else's roof, you go by their rules. When you are putting a roof over your own head, you get to make the rules and decide what types of risks and liabilities you are willing to assume.
[This message has been edited by BN Boomer (edited 10-24-2001).]
There's alot more snow than you think! We do have the second highest mountain range in the U.S!
Disfourdan-87GT Good choice! Tell them you're only young once, and all the rest of that stuff, especially about the lack of sex space. Seriously, my parents bought me a station wagon for my first car and that thing (aside from some bad rug burns) was the ultimate sex mobile! The fiero, my choice, unfortunately is completely sexually incompatible. Believe me, I've tried!
------------------ -87 Bright Blue Metallic GT- -Joel
