quote Originally posted by RoadRocket: All right, I hate to be the one seemingly dissenting voice here, but the above begs a question from me. Why not cooperate with them and give them the parts they asked for? Don't get me wrong, I, like all the others here, am dissappointed with their behavoir, it is definately not right, but why not cooperate with them, for the sake of the community. Just wondering...

That is like Nintendo writing a letter to Sony Playstation and saying since you didn't give us the code to Gran Turismo 3, we are going to take it whether you like it or not, and sell it for 10 bucks cheaper MUHHAAA! Remember we are doing this for the gaming community

Plain and simple and I am not harping on you RR. I see where you are coming from. But Rodney built the part and it is his idea, they have no right, and I mean no right doing that. I have never bought from them and never plan to, but I am going to get Rodney's short shifter as soon as I get the money for it.(candian and poor, sorry rodney, lol.)
Craig

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quote I see where you are coming from. But Rodney built the part and it is his idea, they have no right, and I mean no right doing that. [/B]

I agree completely, Craig. But the Fiero Store's letter that Rodney posted made one thing quite plain:

quote Since you made it quite clear that you did not want to supply us with any of your parts, we decided to manufacture the rebuild kits ourselves to the best of our ability.

As I said before, what the Fiero Store did was quite wrong, no if ands or buttocks. But why did Rodney "make it quite plain" that he wanted nothing to do with the Fiero Store.

Are they truly that bad?

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Ed Dana
88 Coupe.

RoadRocket wrote: "As I said before, what the Fiero Store did was quite wrong, no if ands or buttocks. But why did Rodney "make it quite plain" that he wanted nothing to do with the Fiero Store.

Are they truly that bad?"

I think this e-mail from Ed Parks of the Fiero Factory not long after this happened, I think answers why Rodney did what he did.

Steve

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"Neil, Rodney, and other list Friends (other lists if someone will forward this). Voicing displeasure may not be enough.

We have long felt they served the Fiero community by buying surplus/sent back dealer Fiero parts before GM "dumpstered" them. They usually tied up
large amounts of $ even when buying the parts $.10 on the $1.00, and seldom charged more then original retail. Thats to their credit.

Just yesterday and today we have sent by email, The Fiero Stores phone # 6 times, and given it to another 2 folks that called. This, in spite of never having bought from them, since THEY do not offer a dealer discount.
So....Why would they expect one from Rodney?

THIS IS DIFFERENT.

We know many of their NOS parts have run out, and they have begun to redirect their business to aftermarket parts. That should not include "ripping off" other folks parts. If they feel it is a necessary part,
then they should spend the time and $'s to make a better part.

Just so happens, what Rodney makes, cannot be made better, only "ripped off"!

Tomorrow, we will "lose" their phone # and refuse to install anything
sent from them (present referred customers incoming parts excepted).

Rodney, they have opened up a 2 way street! Take a look at their parts!

Ed Parks...from: The Fiero Factory
8710B Hwy 53
Toney, Ala 35773
Days: 256-420-5391 Nights 256-882-1568
http://www.welcome.to/thefierofactory"

simple fiero Nintendo would most certanly make a perfect copy of gt3 or any other popular if sony was foolish enough not to get it copy writed. That's the situation we have here. Rodney gets a patent... Rodney doesn't have a problem.

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Ya right, and at $800 to $3000 for each patent depending on complexity, who do you suggest pays for it. If these extreme costs could not be passed on to the consumer, then do you think he should just eat the costs involved? Rodney offers very high quality and innovative parts at very reasonable prices. But he can only do this and still offer a low price to you if his overhead stays low like it is in a one man operation such as this.

Since the Fiero community is not really known for its lucrative spending habits, he may just decide to fold up doors rather than mess with it. Is that what you want?? Or do you just enjoy blurting out garbage like this without even a hint of intelligent thought?

How did anyone get the impression that Rodney "refused" to sell to the Fiero Store? From what I read, he just declined to sell to them at "wholesale" prices, probably since the FS has never offered to wholesale to ANYONE, including Ed Parks as was illustrated in a letter he referenced.
I am sure the fiero store could place an order online just like any other customer, and that order would be shipped promptly, just like it has to everyone else in the past.

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I don't give a damn who he passes the cost's to. I'm not spewing garbage I'm spewing FACTS. It's a nasty world out their son and you have to protect yourself or prepare to suffer the consequences. plain and simple. I have never bought a thing from Rodney. I'm sure he puts out a quality product but if he makes something this good and doesn't protect it he's a fool.

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one word.. boycott

quote Originally posted by Fiero5: This, in spite of never having bought from them, since THEY do not offer a dealer discount. So....Why would they expect one from Rodney?

OK, this makes the issue a little clearer, but I'm still not sure what the issue is.
Is Rodney refusing to do business with them because they are demanding a discount? If so, how large?

You know, what bothers me the most about this is that we are a very small community. This kind of silliness does not do any of us any good.

I come from another community that has similar problems; pride is tearing it apart, keeping some of the major players from doing what is best for all.

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Ed Dana
88 Coupe.